Teams that win the cup have at least 1 or 2 lottery picked players on the team or at least top 5. Rangers have never had a lottery pick player or top 5. That’s why the rangers will not a win a cup. They finally won a cup in 94 because they traded for half of the Oilers team from the 80’s that still had something left in the tank or else they still wouldn’t have won a cup since 1940.
I don’t think Shatternik is anything special and if he wants 7 years and 6+ million a year is a another cap disaster and won’t make the rangers any closer to winning a cup so, no.
Please name the two players you would be most upset if traded and the two you are happiest to see go. (Danny G and Shampooboy not eligible as NMC. Nash has limited so can include)
Eli with Maximo’s marina closing up that fish shack I need recommendations for killer grouper sandwiches and miscellaneous restaurants if you’ve got them please.
“not going to get much for pirri and/or klein if anything at all” Ein you might get back something servicable but its not really so much about a super duper trade as much a question of who you guys care is still here (or not).
James G remember I don’t live in Clearwater so I’m not an expert on that area. But I have been told Frenchy’s Rockaway Grill has great Grouper sandwiches. also Blackwaters on Sand key or Islandway Grill all have views of the Gulf. If you are looking for something in St Pete let me know
As much as some stated otherwise, still believe Slats’ shriveled finger prints were all over the E Staal signing last deadline. Given Gorton’s summer and AV’s extension, may not be a win now shiny new toy deal.
If more stupidity reigns this deadline, I blamePhil Jackson.
Oh I know, Eli. I was referring more to the St Pete area. I’ve heard frenchys is good. Wanted to take them out one night. We’ve been to a really good Greek place and an awesome little oyster house in St Pete. Looking to venture back out there again.
No idea on Gropp, ilb. He is 20, playing Major Junior.
Just watched Freidman on NHL network, he said he believes the Rangers offer was a 2nd and a prospect to the Blues. Blues looking to get other teams involved. The Caps to name one.
Does Stephan have a NMC or NTC? If not, What do you think a trade with him would bring in return? Any good young centers we could target like Duschene or someone else? Maybe Stephan and 1st rounder can get Duschene. We need a first line center who can score and contribute on the PP. Stephan is more of a third line center. Interested to hear others thoughts on this
Can’t start a bidding war when teams know they’ll be giving up important pieces for a guy who will most likely sign in NY in July anyhow. But my gut tells me he’s a Ranger or a Capital by 3pm Wednesday. Just not for a first round pick or a significant member of this current squad
Blues will try to rope the Rangers into a bunch of conditionals. They’ll take a 2nd, but if he resigns it turns into a 1st. Maybe an additional conditional 4th that becomes a 3rd if we win 1 round, 2nd if we win another round.
Can’t see Zucc to LA. I can see Klein going that way, with Paul Ladue and a pick coming back to us. Then an additional trade of a pick or mid-level prospect for Brendan Smith from Detroit.
James here’s a few! The Oyster Bar in St Pete by Janis Landing, my wife and I Love The Acropolis Greek Tavern on central ave. The Parkshore Grill, 400 Beach, and Bellabrava for Italian and sea food on beach drive are all good. And just in case you are looking for a sports bar try Fergs on Central ave. I work in downtown St Pete 3 days a week Wed. Thurs. and Friday driving a Pedicab (electric taxi) from 11 am to 6 pm it’s my retirement gig!
I fail to see how trading a righty D in any scenario (including getting a righty back) improved the right side.
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The no way and go away scenarios…
no way-miller, mcdonut, Kreider
Go away-pirri, zucc, step, skjeL, fast
—-Note—step and skjeL only if the return is significant and under contract.
Sanford, R1 this year, and condish R2 next year for Shattenkirk. I’d say Sanford would translate to Adam Tambellini if the Rangers made that deal.
Guessing the conditional R2 becomes an R1 if Shatty resigns.
Too rich for our blood.
Bring on Cody Franson for peanuts, please. Say no to Dennis Wideman – shell of his former self and he’ll never get a decent call from a ref again.
I’m glad, let the craps mortgage there future, sather has done enough of that and got the rangers nowhere the past two years. If Shattenkirk really wants to come to the rangers they can sign him in the off season.
Rangers not trading for Shattenkirk is a good thing. Why give up assets when you can get him in the summer and keep the young talent that your organization is short on. IMO they will have hard time advancing to conference finals with or without Shattenkirk, so you might as well save the assets you have.
cccp, it wasn’t a sign and trade. Originally the blues asking price was higher on the contingent that Shattenkirk would sign a long term deal with the team he was traded to but every time the blues had a deal in place Shattenkirk turn it down because he wants to go to free agency and most likely sign with the rangers.
This offseason, Caps have Kuznetsov, Burakovsky and Orlov coming up on RFA, and Oshie, Alzner, and Williams going UFA. Carlson and Eller UFA next year. Orpik at $5M per year for 2 more seasons past this one, and Matt Niskanen for almost $6M through 2021.
Yeah, that’s some rough shape.
Since the Blues are short a righty dman now, maybe we can send them Girardi for the conditional 2nd rounder from Washington that apparently doesn’t exist.
If they needed that 50%, what does that mean for the Caps ? Are they that jammed up against the Cap, this late in the year ? This math stuff messes me up big time lol.
Wild have been consistently good all year. I would be surprised if they didn’t represent the western conference in the Stanley Cup but you never know, stranger things have happened in the playoffs.
The Blues did with Shatennkirk, what the Rangers should have done with Yandle. And if the Rangers had traded Yandle at last years deadline, chances are they would have had the extra assets to trade for Shatennkirk this year.
Not a bad price to pay for Shatty, but still a bit pricey if he’s truly committed to playing for the Rangers next year – at least we can move on now and Gorton can get us set up for the post-season, off-season and expansion draft
Chychrun no slouch. And if they trade the Duke, it would be selling low but they wouldn’t do it unless they got a semi-decent return. That trade worked out just fine for the ‘Yotes.
Good morning, boneheads!
Washington is going all in. Not only they acquired the biggest name on the market, they also took him away from their biggest rivals. They are in cap hell this off season, and decided to give up a lot for a rental. Good for them. Also, kudos to Gorton for not caving in and giving up too much. I don’t think it was the 1st rounder, it sounds like he didn’t want to give up one of their young forwards. Also, it’s possible that conditional pick(s) was hanging on Shattenkirk re-signing in NY, which everyone knows is highly probable.
I expect a couple of depth moves today/tomorrow, and nothing major.
@BDL was on board that train to sell Yandle last year too. But Corsi. Or something like that. As to Shatennkirk, I honestly do not want them to sign him at all. The coin he will want will be an albatross to whomever pays it – the guy is good, but not exceptional. Supply/demand may give him that great pay day, kudos to him but that doesn’t mean the money isn’t better spent elsewhere on the team.
Game over season over
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Did he send an email saying “Carp’s getting upset?” He talks in 3rd person now that he’s a MSG big shot
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Sorry, AN MSG big shot.
So if they could land Shatty without giving up a first rounder or a significant piece of the future would you guys want him?
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Head shots are now called interference.
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Teams that win the cup have at least 1 or 2 lottery picked players on the team or at least top 5. Rangers have never had a lottery pick player or top 5. That’s why the rangers will not a win a cup. They finally won a cup in 94 because they traded for half of the Oilers team from the 80’s that still had something left in the tank or else they still wouldn’t have won a cup since 1940.
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Definitely in a hard cap era with the NHL contract rules that keep top players with their original teams for 8 to 10 years.
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I don’t think Shatternik is anything special and if he wants 7 years and 6+ million a year is a another cap disaster and won’t make the rangers any closer to winning a cup so, no.
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Maple leafs will win a cup before the rangers will or ever do.
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Not going to cry over spilt draft picks. So get in the post season and shock the world
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Wait ’til Boyle realizes Mr. No Tax is now Mr. Big Tax.
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Armageddon will arrive before the Rangers get a lottery pick or win another cup!
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If I’m McDonuts, I fire my agent.
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Armageddon? Is he lefty or righty? Big shot?
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Please name the two players you would be most upset if traded and the two you are happiest to see go. (Danny G and Shampooboy not eligible as NMC. Nash has limited so can include)
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I don’t see Gorton making any big trades, maybe one or two small ones for a pick and/or depth.
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Let me get in on the Rangers will never win another Stanley Cup ever again.
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Most upset: McDonagh and Miller. Least upset: Fast and Pirri.
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Doesn’t matter ilb2001 but I hear he has end of the world talent!
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LoL Scottsdale. You’re more jaded than I am from being a Rangers fan. That’s O.G.
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Eli with Maximo’s marina closing up that fish shack I need recommendations for killer grouper sandwiches and miscellaneous restaurants if you’ve got them please.
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Hated and THE would upset me. Pirri and EinKlein I would not be upset, assuming we get a D back for Klein.
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That is the kind of pessimism I can understand.
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Any interest in Sheehan from Detroit?
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not going to get much for pirri and/or klein if anything at all.
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“not going to get much for pirri and/or klein if anything at all” Ein you might get back something servicable but its not really so much about a super duper trade as much a question of who you guys care is still here (or not).
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Kreider, Miller.
Fast, Zucc.
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Is everyone ready for Little Festivus on Wednesday?
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James G remember I don’t live in Clearwater so I’m not an expert on that area. But I have been told Frenchy’s Rockaway Grill has great Grouper sandwiches. also Blackwaters on Sand key or Islandway Grill all have views of the Gulf. If you are looking for something in St Pete let me know
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Oh, I see, I would keep the young core, Kreider, Miller, Hayes, Buch, Vesey, Mcdonaugh, skjei, zibenajad, everybody else is trade bait.
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McDonagh, Kreider
Pirri, Puempel
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As much as some stated otherwise, still believe Slats’ shriveled finger prints were all over the E Staal signing last deadline. Given Gorton’s summer and AV’s extension, may not be a win now shiny new toy deal.
If more stupidity reigns this deadline, I blamePhil Jackson.
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Oh I know, Eli. I was referring more to the St Pete area. I’ve heard frenchys is good. Wanted to take them out one night. We’ve been to a really good Greek place and an awesome little oyster house in St Pete. Looking to venture back out there again.
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Can’t find it, but rumors are Shateenkirk,mformKlein,
Gropp, and a 2nd.
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Forget it. Bad info.
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I saw that somewhere too, BDL. Someone was speculating. And was going to ask you- do you think Gropp is the real deal or this year is an outlier?
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That was someone just saying “what if”
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Zucc
Anyone else
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So who’s coming down for the south Florida rumble next week?
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https://www.google.com/amp/newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/02/27/new-york-rangers-kevin-shattenkirk-nhl-trade-deadline/amp/
This was what I read earlier..I wouldn’t be surprised either way but I think if this is on point it, he could wind up here
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Wish I had the vacation time to visit Florida, especially during Spring Training.
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Kreider and Miller and McDonagh no trade. Anyone else adios
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Hearing capitals kicking tires on shattenkirk. Go all in. Rangers need wait to July 1 unless price is like Lindberg Klein and 2nd rounder.
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No idea on Gropp, ilb. He is 20, playing Major Junior.
Just watched Freidman on NHL network, he said he believes the Rangers offer was a 2nd and a prospect to the Blues. Blues looking to get other teams involved. The Caps to name one.
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Watch for Zucc to LA.
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Does Stephan have a NMC or NTC? If not, What do you think a trade with him would bring in return? Any good young centers we could target like Duschene or someone else? Maybe Stephan and 1st rounder can get Duschene. We need a first line center who can score and contribute on the PP. Stephan is more of a third line center. Interested to hear others thoughts on this
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Stepan’s full NTC starts next season. And I disagree, Stepan is a solid two-way 2C on the majority of NHL teams.
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The ask on Duchene is an established, young center (Stepan), a young Dman (Skjei), and a goalie prospect. The Rangers have more than one of those.
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Stepan, IMO, is not quite a legit first-line center (and he’s been lousy lately), but he’s closer to a first than he is to a third.
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http://nypost.com/2017/02/27/blues-trying-to-rope-rangers-into-a-kevin-shattenkirk-bidding-war/
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Can’t start a bidding war when teams know they’ll be giving up important pieces for a guy who will most likely sign in NY in July anyhow. But my gut tells me he’s a Ranger or a Capital by 3pm Wednesday. Just not for a first round pick or a significant member of this current squad
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As for Duschene I think that either a club will give up way too much for him or he will remain with the Avs.
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CARTWRIGHT?
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I just got a call. I yell ‘Cartwright! Cartwright!’, just like that. Nobody came up, I hang up.
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Blues will try to rope the Rangers into a bunch of conditionals. They’ll take a 2nd, but if he resigns it turns into a 1st. Maybe an additional conditional 4th that becomes a 3rd if we win 1 round, 2nd if we win another round.
Can’t see Zucc to LA. I can see Klein going that way, with Paul Ladue and a pick coming back to us. Then an additional trade of a pick or mid-level prospect for Brendan Smith from Detroit.
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James here’s a few! The Oyster Bar in St Pete by Janis Landing, my wife and I Love The Acropolis Greek Tavern on central ave. The Parkshore Grill, 400 Beach, and Bellabrava for Italian and sea food on beach drive are all good. And just in case you are looking for a sports bar try Fergs on Central ave. I work in downtown St Pete 3 days a week Wed. Thurs. and Friday driving a Pedicab (electric taxi) from 11 am to 6 pm it’s my retirement gig!
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Not worth it for us. We aren’t winning a cup. Sign him in July. Caps prob still lose to pens.
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I fail to see how trading a righty D in any scenario (including getting a righty back) improved the right side.
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The no way and go away scenarios…
no way-miller, mcdonut, Kreider
Go away-pirri, zucc, step, skjeL, fast
—-Note—step and skjeL only if the return is significant and under contract.
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Who’s Cartwright.
I’m Cartwright.
You’re not Cartwright.
Of course I’m not Cartwright!
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I hope the Rangers drove up the price and fleeced the crap out of the Caps.
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Who’s left?
Kulikov?
Quncey?
Sharp would add a top 6 forward and he plays the point on the PP.
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How many pointts does Shattenkirk collect tomorrow night?
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Bro, as always with the NYR: what a diastah!!!!!!!!!
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Oduya maybe?
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Rangers should do nothing. We aren’t beating pens or caps no matter who we get.
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For fifty bucks? I’d put my face in their soup and blow.
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Oh, five, 10 minutes.
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So, let me get this straight. Shatty to the Craps, & the Craps get Shatty.
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Not a price I would pay.
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HA! They will still choke and we will get Shatt for dollars only in July lol
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Sanford, R1 this year, and condish R2 next year for Shattenkirk. I’d say Sanford would translate to Adam Tambellini if the Rangers made that deal.
Guessing the conditional R2 becomes an R1 if Shatty resigns.
Too rich for our blood.
Bring on Cody Franson for peanuts, please. Say no to Dennis Wideman – shell of his former self and he’ll never get a decent call from a ref again.
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I’m glad, let the craps mortgage there future, sather has done enough of that and got the rangers nowhere the past two years. If Shattenkirk really wants to come to the rangers they can sign him in the off season.
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Rangers not trading for Shattenkirk is a good thing. Why give up assets when you can get him in the summer and keep the young talent that your organization is short on. IMO they will have hard time advancing to conference finals with or without Shattenkirk, so you might as well save the assets you have.
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Maybe, Babcock and Brian Boyle can find a way to at least wear down the Caps. There’s going to be a lot of pressure, especially in the 1st round.
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and so much for the Rangers being the only team on Shatt’s list lol
goes to show that we do not know sh!t and exactly why I almost never participate in the “this guy coming for this much” games…
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People love to talk about the Rangers window closing. Those Caps tho.
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I don’t even want the massive contract that Shattenkirk will sign in july. Be buyers remorse pretty quick.
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cccp, it wasn’t a sign and trade. Originally the blues asking price was higher on the contingent that Shattenkirk would sign a long term deal with the team he was traded to but every time the blues had a deal in place Shattenkirk turn it down because he wants to go to free agency and most likely sign with the rangers.
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alex, I agree, I don’t want him either, not for 7 years and 6+ million dollars, another cap disaster.
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If the caps don’t win the cup this year there window will be almost closed, if not closed.
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Yeah I also heard he is willing to take hometown discount to sign with us… 😀
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This offseason, Caps have Kuznetsov, Burakovsky and Orlov coming up on RFA, and Oshie, Alzner, and Williams going UFA. Carlson and Eller UFA next year. Orpik at $5M per year for 2 more seasons past this one, and Matt Niskanen for almost $6M through 2021.
Yeah, that’s some rough shape.
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Craps will shat the bed no matter.
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I think the blues retained 50% of his salary, which would partially explain the higher price paid
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Since the Blues are short a righty dman now, maybe we can send them Girardi for the conditional 2nd rounder from Washington that apparently doesn’t exist.
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Yup.
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Any chance we could pry Stralman from Tampa?
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Names coming off the list
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If they needed that 50%, what does that mean for the Caps ? Are they that jammed up against the Cap, this late in the year ? This math stuff messes me up big time lol.
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Truly hope Lou-Lam and Babock can hatch a scheme to beat the Caps. Like I said, there will be a lot of pressure in that 1st round. It could happen.
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He is coming!!!
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Caps are screwed this summer.
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could be the Leaves, Bs, Sens, Isles, Panthers or even Flyers who play Capitals in the first round.
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the only team i’d root against vs the caps is islanders (re first round possibles)
unless
if we get knocked out first round then i’d want them over pittsburgh or columbus so i’d want them to win first round.
bottom line i don’t hate the caps but if it helps us i’d want them out
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Dandy OT goal by Granlund, the wild look good.
Pretty, pretty good
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Seedub
Yeah, and they went all in.
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That 8th seed is going to be a barn burner the last month and half of the season.
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Craps are no doubt screwed in the off season. That’s why i feel it’s now or never for them this year.
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Wild have been consistently good all year. I would be surprised if they didn’t represent the western conference in the Stanley Cup but you never know, stranger things have happened in the playoffs.
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Thank goodness we dodged that Shat once
Don’t step in it come Summer
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Oduya? Not sure right now.
Franson for a 3rd rounder and Glass…
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somehow E Staal was able to land a spot in the Wild’s lineup.
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Wicky is it really worth it to take off Wednesday with many of deals made beforehand?
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Craps – Azz
Pitts – BJs
NYR – Hab Nots
Sensi – Loafs
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Wow, I would have paid that for shattenkirk, easily.
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Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
In the east, 2 or 3 will be KO’d in Round 1, 6 or 7 is guaranteed to advance, 1 and 2 can meet no later than Round 2 & 4 better draw than 3.
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keep joe micheletti and kenny albert out of the minnesota dressing room with the wilds mumps issues
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Nash + Step …… 14 and a half million dollars for 30 goals total. What’s wrong with this pitcher?
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Alex
It hasn’t been the past few years, but I do it anyhow 😉
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The Blues did with Shatennkirk, what the Rangers should have done with Yandle. And if the Rangers had traded Yandle at last years deadline, chances are they would have had the extra assets to trade for Shatennkirk this year.
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Carp – You’re right. Much of the Atlantic standings still in flux so way too soon to predict who the Caps draw in 1st round.
It’s hard for me to believe Gorton does nothing. I’m still hoping for Smith and Sharp (if the prices are right).
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Not a bad price to pay for Shatty, but still a bit pricey if he’s truly committed to playing for the Rangers next year – at least we can move on now and Gorton can get us set up for the post-season, off-season and expansion draft
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James G, if you are looking for something on the Gulf side try Dockside Dave’s on Treasure Island for Grouper Sandwich.
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According to TSN the Duke is on the block for Arizona – how’s that Yandle trade worked out for them?
If they lose Duke, then they’ve got (No)Datsyuk and Jacob Chychrun and we got Tarmo Reunanen and no Stanley Pie – i’d say both sides lost that trade!!
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Chychrun no slouch. And if they trade the Duke, it would be selling low but they wouldn’t do it unless they got a semi-decent return. That trade worked out just fine for the ‘Yotes.
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Good morning, boneheads!
Washington is going all in. Not only they acquired the biggest name on the market, they also took him away from their biggest rivals. They are in cap hell this off season, and decided to give up a lot for a rental. Good for them. Also, kudos to Gorton for not caving in and giving up too much. I don’t think it was the 1st rounder, it sounds like he didn’t want to give up one of their young forwards. Also, it’s possible that conditional pick(s) was hanging on Shattenkirk re-signing in NY, which everyone knows is highly probable.
I expect a couple of depth moves today/tomorrow, and nothing major.
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Wow, RIP Vladimir Petrov. That was one of the most dominant troikas in the history of hockey, Mikhailov-Petrov-Kharlamov
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NEW POST
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@BDL was on board that train to sell Yandle last year too. But Corsi. Or something like that. As to Shatennkirk, I honestly do not want them to sign him at all. The coin he will want will be an albatross to whomever pays it – the guy is good, but not exceptional. Supply/demand may give him that great pay day, kudos to him but that doesn’t mean the money isn’t better spent elsewhere on the team.
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