some thoughts at the end times..is it bad coaching to still be juggling line combos, haven’t figured out the penalty kill or play? Is nash stepon zib good at all? Has THE disappeared again ? How many people here think they will get out of the 1st rd? I love the rangers but does anything breed confidence going into the playoffs..For the 1st time in years I’m leaning towards indifference
I think Kreider’s been the least of their problems … and I think the reason to be optimistic is that they will be the best team in the Atlantic Division bracket. Not that they will win two rounds, but they are the best team in that bracket.
Carp, I’ll take your word for it…I really meant that it terms of he drove me crazy as a player, so maybe a backhand compliment? Didn’t mean in the same way I hate Crosby, Hartnell, Cardillo etc.
It’s the devils no effort necessary. On paper they should beat this team easily. Maybe they will tune it up for the last 20. But probably not. I’m guessing Kreider is satisfied with 26 goals.
who ever made this nhl schedule up certainly appears to dislike the rangers. Practically all the remaining games of the season are all back to back, ridiculous.
see the trend here folks? even clean hard hits are starting fights…they will soon diminish and make this sport unwatchable…think france by air/ice capades with sticks..and totally uninteresting
Nash should only try to score against good teams. Nash can’t even score against the bad teams. Nash only scores when the game is already decided. Nash can’t even score in garbage time. Nash only gets empty-netters. Nash can’t even score on an empty net…
Only a matter of time before the thugs from the Vince Lombardi Rest Stop Plaza on the Jersey Pike attack and lay siege to the gentle people at the Walt Whitman Rest Stop Area.
Ranger announcers repeatedly emphasize how undersized Auntie is, but he is listed as basically the same size as Hank, even heavier. Somebody’s lying. Why, I have no idea, but this goes on everywhere in sports, starting in high school.
Did I say this already?
IMO. Time to get 21 and/or 36 off the first PP, and separated at even strength. Time to get 40 back with 13 and 10, and 19 on fourth line.
I think it all started decades ago in high school where (pre-steroid) kids with athletic scholarship aspirations added an imaginary 3 inches and 30 lbs for the recruiters.
Rangers could win two series in the weak Atlantic. They only need a lot of luck to beat the survivor in the Metro. But they surely won’t beat the Black Hawks for the Cup.
The rangers aren’t that smart in OT. I still don’t know how they were unbeaten in OT before tonight. Especially because the devils looked even more clueless than they did.
Can’t shoot wide in OT. Gave up yet another PP goal. At least one a game now. How many will Weber get against them? I just have a problem getting excited about this group.
Nope, that’s not a problem Old Ranger Fan…. it’s being objective and seeing the team for what it really is rather than blindly following them like some others do….
You can’t be totally objective, or given the odds, you’ll rule out every season. Even the President’s Trophy teams only win occasionally. You gotta have some faith in your team, or at least believe in a little luck at the right time.
Olga…. I’m all for having faith. Really….. I am. But it really is hard to get excited about this year’s group. After the first quarter of the season, the league figured them out. They’re a one trick pony that lacks grit. All you have to do is clog the neutral zone and/or play an aggressive forecheck against them and congrats, you just beat the NYR. Their best shot to win was 13′-14″ and 14′-15′ (but they were too banged up by the 3rd round). Look at the Penguins…. yes they have Crosby/Malkin…. but it’s their overall team game. They NEVER take their foot off the gas! They’re relentless! Can you say the same about our Rangers? I can’t…. and that, is why I don’t have faith. I wish I did. They’re a frustrating group. And I’m sorry but I think their energy/effort levels are direct reflection of their coach. I’m not saying I want torts…. and I have NO idea who would be a better option than AV at this point…. But, I just feel like with him at the helm, they lack the necessary fire in their belly to win the whole thing. This is his team, and while they exceeded expectations this year (most picked them to miss the playoffs before the season), they’re built way too soft. They don’t need to goon it up, but they need playable toughness.
Well Craig, then your season is over. But mine isn’t.
Don’t worry about the Penguins until they meet the Rangers in the playoffs. Who knows, someone might beat them for us.
Great job by Weather laying out the standard-issue Bonehead narrative. The soft, one-trick pony with the blah coach. Got into this prime position with mirrors, no doubt.
Olga, do you not agree with any of the points I made? Are we watching the same games? I completely understand that no team is perfect and there’s more parody in the league then ever before. But, this team is just too soft. Soft teams don’t win in the playoffs. Remember last year? It wasn’t even remotely close. They folded up like a lawn chair. I very much enjoyed their runs in 11-12, 13-14 and 14-15. Those teams gave me great hope. This year’s team just doesn’t get me all jazzed up. I’d love more than anything for them to prove me wrong….. but it’s nights like tonight that reaffirm my general “meh” feeling about this group.
Norm…. please point out to me a 60 minute effort this season. Point out to me the last time they dominated an opponent from start to finish…. You can’t, because they haven’t. It just feels like this season is a house of cards.
Sorry Craig, I got tied up watching the Hawks in OT. To answer your question, I think the Ranger team is flawed in several respects. But in the playoffs stranger things have happened. Eighth placed teams have won the Cup (LA) Favorites have been knock out in early rounds. Some teams jelled at the right time. Do the Rangers have a chance? A good chance? Any chance? The answer is yes, no ,yes. And that, in a nutshell is why we watch the games. I’m not jazzed up either but I’m waiting for the playoffs.
BTW the Black Hawks lost. The fell behind 4-1. In the third they scored 3 goals to tie and go to OT. I didn’t start carping about them falling behind by 3. I just watched the game and hoped they would pull it out somehow. They did and they didn’t. Lost in OT. Got a point though. Take what you can get and “s’port the team”.
Heyyy yoooo! Big fan here! Huge! I love theee guys! But why they lose to these clowns tonight? They kicked out butts each fight! If I was out there I’d of beat up the whole team. These guys are too soft.
The worst part is that we lost with our good goalie. No heart! They stink. We’re done. Bums.
I lost big cash. I had 2 stacks on rangers winning by 2. Next autograph sessions they have, I’m gonna get the whole teams signatures and wipe my butt with it in their faces boy!!!!!!!
Carp, totally agree with your 846, 9;40 posts. Since these games don’t mean much right now, since their PO position is pretty much secured, I would go a step further and let Stephan watch from the press box. He is awful on PP, Rarely shoots and when he does he misses net. Also he is way too slow to get to the 50/50 pucks, which ultimately costs them valuable possession time on PP.
I’ve decided to protest their lackluster play by not growing a playoff beard this year. Every year I grow one despite the fact that I don’t like the way it looks or the way it feels, especially in the warmer weather. If this team can’t put forth an effort for me, I can’t put forth one for them. I’ll still root for them, but I’m not going out of my way to help them.
Crazy schedule when you have to play back to back game 7’s.
22, 42 & 26 are not Prust, Bickel & Rupper, but the team responded pretty well in the 3rd. The Rangers were not intimidated. If anything, the Devils woke them up.
I like Carp’s idea:
“IMO. Time to get 21 and/or 36 off the first PP, and separated at even strength. Time to get 40 back with 13 and 10, and 19 on fourth line.”
Chris Kreider is a shell of his former self whatever his former self was. Skates into the offensive zone alone the boards and loses the puck, or throws it behind the net to opposing player brilliant!
Facing the FishTanks second game of back to back after tough, physical game which ended in a loss in OT. Meanwhile, FishTanks are well-rested and are desperate for points.
However, let’s see if the Rangers excellent record in second game of back-to-backs as well as after a loss comes into play…
Oh yeah –the Rangers will be playing “in the Garden”, so there’s that.
I don’t know how Carp does this night after night without blowing his brains out all over his typewriter.
Scholastic just called for permission to reprint last night’s comments in their entirety in chapter 1 of the latest version of its WCC Psych 101 textbook
Glass tonight?
I would keep Stepan and Zucc together. It’s there LW I would change. Kreider needs line mates with speed who move the puck. Zibanijad should be Kreider center. Get him away from Carmello Zuccarello.
If the Rangers win tonight we can count on “Fire and Brimstone coming do with from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling, forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, Volcanos, Dead Rising from the graves! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together mass hysteria…….!
Yogi Berra’s wife had arranged to have the venetian blinds removed to be cleaned. Son Dale hollers into den where Yogi is watching Saturday football, “Pop, some men are at the door for the venetian blinds.” Yogi: “Go to my wallet on my dresser and trow them a few bucks.”
“When you have a guy who holds the ball (puck), nobody’s moving the ball (puck), everything is out of whack. ”
That is Shaq on Carmello Anthony. I think it applies to Zucc as well.
I’m sure some of you “fans” think Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Toronto … these are all teams much, much, much better than the New York Rangers. Would be a miracle if the Rangers got a game off any of them in their first-round playoff loss.
Said “fans” are the only ones who clearly see the team for what it is, through everyone else’s pom poms, and are no doubt convinced that their blizzard of sad comments will ironically serve the cosmic purpose of getting the team to win.
I was watching the game last night while on the phone when Fight Night at The Rock took place. Did Sam and Joe ever question or mention why Vesey and Lappin didn’t get game misconducts for their secondary fight?
Rule 56(f) says “(f) A game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who is assessed a major penalty for fighting after the original altercation.
Notwithstanding this Rule, at the discretion of the Referee, the automatic game misconduct penalty may be waived for a player in the altercation if the opposing player was clearly the instigator of the altercation.”
From the Lightbulb Finally Going Off Department: “That’s why I’m here,” Nash said. “To score.”
I nominate Olga to lead RR2 in cheer at the start of each go time. Craig can lead in jeer at the start of the post-game. Its the Yin-Yang of NYR fandom.
Anthony,
The fights took place simultaneously. No secondary fight.
Carp,
I think the Rangers can beat any team in the East. None of them scare me. Only Washington Pittsburg, and to a lesser extent, Montreal would be pick em series in my book.
I don’t think the Rangers would have much of a chance at all if they had to play Washington-Pittsburgh back-to-back series. I think they’d beat Columbus (unless Bob was sensational), and Montreal (ditto Price). And be favored in any other series in the Atlantic.
But I’m not putting them automatically in the ECF, either, because of their inconsistency (and not because they’re too soft, the coach is an idiot, etc.).
We sure get knocked around pretty good in front of certain teams’ nets and dish out precious little of the same at our end. Maybe all this is insignificant in the larger picture. Who knows?
Glass’s chicken dance and Avery’s cat paw mockery worth the price of admission. Still can’t believe that the uber-obnoxious Avery survived as long as he did.
For the record, I’m not a “fair weather” fan. I’m just a passionate fan who unfortunately can’t put the blinders on and indiscriminately wave my pom poms. I’ll do my best NOT to post in a negative fashion when they’re getting outplayed. I want these guys to win just as bad as you do…. and I want them to win as if they deserve it on “most” nights. I’d be foolish to think every game they win should be a dominant performance. I just think the majority of the games they’ve won after the first quarter of the season have been squeaked out and they were outplayed/outshot. I’m just calling it like I see it. But…. to recap, I want them to win just as bad as everyone else…. so, there’s that 🙂
The one thing Avery could do (well, one of the things he could do) was skate. The one thing he couldn’t do (well, one of the things he couldn’t do) was play within a system. And the second time around, if not the first, get along with others.
And of course the positive was that he was a complete rat to the opposition. Like Glass should be, or Prust should have been, among others.
Craig – I’ll never question what you know or don’t know about hockey. What I’m saying is the justification that you usually give for your negative posts can be found almost word for word on every sports team’s blog, from one self-proclaimed realist. I can only speak for myself when I say that after a long day of work, I look forward to watching a game and to some dugout talk with the guys, but instead the blizzard of posts I see are like the 11th plague on Pharoah.
No one believed me at the time (or didn’t want to comment) when I stated unequivocally that Avery was severely disliked by his teammates, especially second time around.
Part of the Glass irony is that AV likes Glass specifically because he will act robotic, not be a pest, not lose his cool and do exactly as he is told. Carp is right in saying he’d be more valuable as a sly rat.
Avery’s a smart guy, or at least he projects such. I think Hank liked his fashion sense, his zest for life, all the away-from-the-rink stuff. … Little Topo did too.
“Avery was severely disliked by his teammates, especially second time around.”
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Do you remember the players Rangers had second time Avery came around? Freaking Redden, E. Christensen, Higgins! Jody Shelley, BRASHEAR!! Jokinen! Kotalik! LISIN!!! My fuggin’ god!
No wonder he couldn’t get along with those “wonderful” hockey players…
I quite honestly don’t remember Avery ever flat out losing a fight, especially within his weight class. He never took too many clean shots either within his class. Very evasive. Yeah, he did the smart “turtle” plenty of times against heavyweights, but was pretty damn good in his weight class.
So we are still on the non realistic “this team has no faults” or “worst team in the league” posts…ah, the consistency and non reality of this place. Love it!!
3C, my basement brother – what I meant (mostly) was that Avery’s over the top on-ice mouth and actions made a lot of the guys wary of the opposition losing their cool and taking out their injurious and nasty frustrations on THEM instead of upon Avery himself. Maybe not the noblest reason to dislike the guy, but understandable in the interest of self-preservation. And what Carp said about Hank and Topo makes sense. Never quite thought of it that way before.
Wicky, there’s people that think the team has no faults and there are those that think the team has an abundant number of faults. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
FWIW, I think this team, when talking wins and losses, has been one of the most consistent teams (if not THE most consistent team) in the league this year. No long win streaks or losing streaks (iirc). They also rarely have the best forward, d man, or goalie in the game, which is both good and bad.
This team is not greasy, which is passable in the regular season (I can only think of one game where they were clearly out played physicality aka “run out of the building”), but is going to hurt them in a long post season series or two because they are not the initiators.
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Yes, the rangers can win any series against another team in the playoffs, but so can the other teams.
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I think the rangers match up best against the pens and leaves, less so against the caps and sens. But yes, any team can beat any other team in the playoffs.
The thing that concerns me is there is a trend with AV coached teams. Those teams went to the cup once in his tenure, lost in 7 and 5 respectively but was in the top 3 of the conference in points year after year but would get knocked out of the 1st round of playoffs year after year. AV signed a extension so we will see how it plays out.
Tommy
You are correct sir, I’m not a believer in the “making the playoffs” is considered a successful season theory. AV hasn’t won a cup until he has and I don’t think he’s got the prowess to win one. His past playoff record seems to back that up (to this point). I think his time is done here with an early ranger exit (which I hope does NOT happen, id love a Stanley cup this season…like every other one).
Carp- have the freak outs been bad since I posted the go time thread last night? Missed the whole game but saw your earlier post above t making their way through the Atlantic
All this talk of the Rangers not being greasy yet how greasy were the Pens last year? Granted, we don’t have Sid and Geno, but remember the Pens defense wasn’t exactly filled with Norris Trophy candidates.
The Caps are plenty “greasy” with Ovie mowing down players and Wilson practically gooning it up and they have Holtby in goal (and some other good players too), but how well did they do?
Funny how the Rangers seem to be greasy enough to run roughshod over those big, bad Western Conference teams that were supposed to run the Rangers out of the rink.
For all their warts, the Rangers have the fifth best record in the NHL with:the league’s most inconsistent PP and PK, with their best player (Hank) being inconsistent and banged up, with two of their top centers suffering through goal-scoring droughts (you can toss in LINK and Nash too).
Are the Rangers a perfect team, or even a perfect playoff team – NO! But then again, sometimes they get treated like a Knicks team with prima donnas who are coasting through yet another misery of a season with little relief in sight.
Sometimes perspective is a good thing.
With that said, could we please win Game 7 tonight!
Anthony
In my opinion, the pens are a pretty greasy team. Crosby, Malkin, letang, Kunitz are all greasy. Remember Crosby ragdolling mcdonut around the ice? The pens don’t have to give a roster spot to a player like glass to be greasy, their top line guys do it just fine.
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The pens are more than greasy enough. And it’s their letter wearing, top players that lead the way.
I think anyone that doesn’t believe you have to be a tough team to play against to succeed in this league and win a cup needs to watch more NHL hockey.
fyi, a front-office person told me the other day that Pittsburgh is the team that scares the Rangers the most because of their speed and skill and defensive style and because their goalie is really good, a k a, the Rangers might not have a big edge in that department.
FIRE SATHER!
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LGR !!!
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Dang it! So close!
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Two teams that have nothing left to play for. Who doesn’t want it worst?
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the crowd is going wild
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Devils 1 win in the last 13 games… you know what that means for the Rangers.
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Any DC-area boneheads gonna be at game April 5?
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Would you trade Skjei for Taylor Hall?
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C3, you channeling Eric? Now look would you did!
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Nice to see the refs are in the building
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Say what, Laurel?
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Is Lex Luthor coaching the Devils?
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3c – May 14 is Mothers’ Day. I got Mom a new broom which I hid under the kerosene heater. If you want to go halfsies, you owe me $2.49.
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F.I.R.S.T.
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!!!!!niw tsuM
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Donuts got the penalty right when you posted that comment….
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Lol papa!
why is MSG + showing the Debbie feed???
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Coos
I’d go halfsies with you for mom’s gift… but i just bought a metrocard for the month… will you accept my half in train rides? 🙂
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He’s gone, Olga. But I did say hello to him yesterday. Also told Drury that I put money in his pocket at his pizza joint the other night.
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What say we light the lamp kiddos?
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That would be cool if they actually lit lamps.
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Carp, is #4 related to Don Clendennon of the Mets 69 team?
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I know he’s gone. You saw him, Carp. (Huh?)
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He is the Miracle Met. Also the gerund. Also No. 8 defenseman.
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It’s time to put Nash, Miller and Kreider on a line together
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I did, Olga. We have a much, much better relationship since he hung it up.
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Chicago – Vancouver 8:30 start.
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play down to their level win will not
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A kinder gentler Sather? Now you have to convince Slatsko.
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Healthy and free, the road before me, the long brown path before me …
All seems beautiful to me.
Now go build a bridge, Walt Whitman.
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Speaking of bridges.
Eruzione on his goal against the Russians:
“My friends tell me, ‘three inches more to the left and you’d be painting bridges.'”
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I know you guys hate him, but check out this goal … and remember to tank, tank, tank.
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some thoughts at the end times..is it bad coaching to still be juggling line combos, haven’t figured out the penalty kill or play? Is nash stepon zib good at all? Has THE disappeared again ? How many people here think they will get out of the 1st rd? I love the rangers but does anything breed confidence going into the playoffs..For the 1st time in years I’m leaning towards indifference
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Not a fan of the dad, but the Daneyko kid is pretty cool
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OTOH, three inches to the left and Lincoln would have seen the rest of the play.
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I hate him…..but holy banana trees….
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I think Kreider’s been the least of their problems … and I think the reason to be optimistic is that they will be the best team in the Atlantic Division bracket. Not that they will win two rounds, but they are the best team in that bracket.
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That earned a spittake Olga…..
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mama, FWIW, Daneyko is a tremendous guy. … little known fact, he once dated Messier’s sister.
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1. You gotta believe… and
B. Anything can happen.
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blog m
game is on msg too with the ranger announcers
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Zika has been very disappointing since he came back…. we traded big game Brassard for him… Zika better have that ability in him as well.
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Carp, I’ll take your word for it…I really meant that it terms of he drove me crazy as a player, so maybe a backhand compliment? Didn’t mean in the same way I hate Crosby, Hartnell, Cardillo etc.
Alex….not getting that on Center Ice….
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And little known fact….I sure would have like to have dated Messier!
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That kid from Mahopac needs a beat down
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Like that kid.
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PP sucks, PK sucks (lately), defense sucks, team is soft… wtf are we doing here?
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Big Game Book of Stamps Brass?
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Rangers pairing off to defend Stepan.
Stepan looking up at the replay.
Jeez.
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The Great Santini !
Cry for me, come on.
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is hockey boring w/o passion?
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what creates passion? Hatred big hit fights ..playoffs.
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Big Game Book of Stamps Brass
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It’s cute, Carp…. but you know Brass is a postseason beast.
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AND… if we play Ottawa in po, you KNOW Brass will punish us all series. Fact.
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This game is boring
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Yeah, like when he didn’t need a shower after any of the five games last spring. Or Game 7 the year before?
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Limp and soggy game.
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This is so typical of so many NYR-NJ games over the years. Nothing happening. Some passion, but not much else.
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I set the alarm to make sure I wake up in time to go to bed
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odds at beating montreal ?….i say 40%
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That calls for some fresh gum!
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I knew it, I hartnellong knew it…smelled that coming …. Fug! Not the excitement I was looking for
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Last spring lol… who did need a shower?
You mean game 7 against Tampa? Nobody but Hank showed up.
16 points in 19 postseason games including 9 goals that year.
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Looks like we almost swapped Zuc for Taylor Hall.
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Wow….Zucca got flipped like an omelet
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Awesome. Let’s lose to a minor league team. Cool.
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Oscar!!!!!!! Oscar!!! Oscar!!!!
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Jambalaya!
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And my comment worked.
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Hahahahaha SN
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Tied up. Though I thought there was an offside missed about 5 minutes ago…
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Salsa!!!
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Lindberg is flying .
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Linberg playing himself off the rangers because you know he will be plucked by vegas in the off season.
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does HOlden get the second assist?
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One of my favorite TV episodes of all times…..and mother fug….
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Aw crud.
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Lol we suck again…. but my fav was when canjalosi said “the pace quickens…” and then said Stepan in the same sentence.
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Plenty of time…
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Well, there goes the boring….wtb?????
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great hit HOlden!!!
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LINE BRAWL !!!!
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Wood better get an extra minor…not the PP will score.
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refs will screw the rangers, bet on it.
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Poor Wood got his bark scratched….he oughta be kicked….
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Good… that Holden guy needed a beating the way he’s been playing
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Nice set o’ gucci’s behind AV
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All I know is if the jackets, pens or craps were playing this game there not losing so I don’t know how the rangers are the 3rd best team in the east.
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well at least something interesting happened
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Is it me or is Schneider starting to look like Brodeur?
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It’s just pathetic that we’re losing to these scrubs.
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and you know the rangers will lose to the islanders tomorrow, bet on it.
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shocking Craig.
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atta boy, Tommy
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another problem w/ crappy pp come playoffs who cares if they take a penalty/cheap shot against this team
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It’s the devils no effort necessary. On paper they should beat this team easily. Maybe they will tune it up for the last 20. But probably not. I’m guessing Kreider is satisfied with 26 goals.
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If the fights don’t wake the rangers up in this game I don’t know what will.
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who ever made this nhl schedule up certainly appears to dislike the rangers. Practically all the remaining games of the season are all back to back, ridiculous.
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Call it like I see it, Carp… can’t fault me for that.
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Maybe someday they’ll surprise me and pin a team in their own zone for a minute and win board battles/races to pucks….
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The fighting will lift the energy level of the Devils, the Rangers or neither. It happened. It’s over.
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I told my pops after the first period that that was our one good period in this one. We’re doomed.
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see the trend here folks? even clean hard hits are starting fights…they will soon diminish and make this sport unwatchable…think france by air/ice capades with sticks..and totally uninteresting
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Astute observation, Norm lol
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I’m getting off the Nash train at the next stop.
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Jambayahtzee !!!!
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ok, now lets bury this crap team, enough of this garbage.
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I fainted and just came to…… bangers and Nash scored!
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Hooray for our side!
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Keenan would sometimes put his 3 best forwards on a line… AV, it’s time for Miller, Krieder and Nash.
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Kumbaya!
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wow next nash goal some other meaningless game….but a lot of wristers into the chest of the goalie…
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I will build a wall and Walt Whitman will pay for it!
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I love that one, Mama.
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Good thing I didn’t get off the train yet.
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looks to me the fights woke the rangers up, there flying now.
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Holy Crap! The Rangers read my comments between periods! I mean there’s no other explanation!
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Rangers apparently lifted by the fights
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Nash should only try to score against good teams. Nash can’t even score against the bad teams. Nash only scores when the game is already decided. Nash can’t even score in garbage time. Nash only gets empty-netters. Nash can’t even score on an empty net…
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Shaq O’Neal stole my insurance card.
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must say… I’m really liking Smith’s presence
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Is it true Mika’s nickname is fluffy?
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Nash scores on the spin-o-Rama… first time in 4 years?
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B- Nash scores all the big ones…
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Rangers fought each other in he locker room, got each other energized.
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Only a matter of time before the thugs from the Vince Lombardi Rest Stop Plaza on the Jersey Pike attack and lay siege to the gentle people at the Walt Whitman Rest Stop Area.
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Papa, I just regained consciousness. Did you suggest Nash is a top-three forward?
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Coos, be careful of the Grover Alexander Cleveland crew from the south
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Evrock…was gonna send someone to the station to pick you up
See….took your own wit and ran wit it…..
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Carp, Nash is definitely, top 3 the way he is playing. But, he’s not a “high scoring forward” like Sam says.
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Clendening is such a massive wimp it astonishes me
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The Joyce Kilmer gang seen approaching the area swinging heavy handbags.
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Poor Steps…..he looked puppy dog sad
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Now come on!
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John Fenimore boys carry brass knuckles
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I would back a rule that assesses a penalty to ANYONE who raises his stick above the shoulder except in an after-game salute.
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Raanta playing tough.
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The Woodrow Wilson boys carry big sticks, but you can barely hear them
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Can’t say Emily Dic_inson here.
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zucc with 2 Giveaways leading to bedlam in Dzone…whatever….
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The rangers sure do play as a team in their own end. The Forwards, D-men & Goalies all make nice passes… to the opposition.
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Martin McGuinness, County Derry, Rest In Peace
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Be careful, Corky. You’ll anger the chart-boys.
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Thank god Chico Retchid isn’t on the devil’s broadcast anymore.
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Ranger announcers repeatedly emphasize how undersized Auntie is, but he is listed as basically the same size as Hank, even heavier. Somebody’s lying. Why, I have no idea, but this goes on everywhere in sports, starting in high school.
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Seems the NHL is pretty happy:
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Coos, listed size a pet peeve of yours! What about the 6 foot spade?
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Did I say this already?
IMO. Time to get 21 and/or 36 off the first PP, and separated at even strength. Time to get 40 back with 13 and 10, and 19 on fourth line.
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Rantaa Claus!
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Mika plays smaller than his size. Bends over at the waist
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For Coos…size matters
10 foot pole?
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Carp, that’s two dirtybird posts tonight! Byfuglien!
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coos, I’m listed at 5-10, 175.
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10 inch record?
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Six feet under?
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When you go into moderation here, your remark spends eternity in Dante’s 9th Circle of funereal Wretchedness.
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The Longest Yard?
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Three yards of dust?
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Inchworm
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The Green Mile?
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Subway Six Inch Special?
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Let’s go Rangers!
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My pick is Stepan for the game winner, in no particular order
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Moderation brings back great memories.
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Come on boys!!!!!! Please!!!!
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I think it all started decades ago in high school where (pre-steroid) kids with athletic scholarship aspirations added an imaginary 3 inches and 30 lbs for the recruiters.
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According to Salmon Joe, Nash has been almost unstoppable this game.
Almost…
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Son of a ^+}#>]+^#>]+#!!!!!!!!
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hilarious!!! Awful!!!!
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Told ya we were doomed.
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LOLOLOL these guys suck….. First round out… book it.
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💩
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2nd win in last 14 games for the Debbies.
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Well, that really really didn’t go as planned. I’m out….mama love and see youse tomorrow!
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👹
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We dominated that OT……dominated! First OT loss of the season….to the devils….worst team in the conference.
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Play for the point!
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Devils win the Cup! Devils win the Cup! Uh…Sort of.
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Magic number shrinks, OTL helps tank for fourth place. Great night for NYR.
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don’t expect anything different tomorrow except the rangers losing in regulation to the icelanders.
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Well… they coulda won in OT…. Schneider made a few good ones and Grabner really sucked on that last back check.
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Sorry Carp but one and done!
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What’s worse the a Ranger loss?
A Ranger loss with Pidto on the post game
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Where did the Debbies players go? Arent they gonna get the cup presented to them?
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Grabner was gassed. Raanta was outplayed in this one. Doesn’t happen too often.
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missing on a shot in regulation is bad but in OT, deadly.
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LOL, Eli.
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Worse case Ontario
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We lost to an ahl team.
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Rangers could win two series in the weak Atlantic. They only need a lot of luck to beat the survivor in the Metro. But they surely won’t beat the Black Hawks for the Cup.
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Hey at least Craig enjoyed it
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Watch the OT and……Hey! You Suck!
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Mac should have known better than to chance completely missing the net in OT.
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Every second, Alex….
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The rangers aren’t that smart in OT. I still don’t know how they were unbeaten in OT before tonight. Especially because the devils looked even more clueless than they did.
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The only thing that would’ve made it better was watching it with you, sweet cheeks…
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Can’t shoot wide in OT. Gave up yet another PP goal. At least one a game now. How many will Weber get against them? I just have a problem getting excited about this group.
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Nope, that’s not a problem Old Ranger Fan…. it’s being objective and seeing the team for what it really is rather than blindly following them like some others do….
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The Rangers certainly don’t play much of a puck possession game in OT. Loose passes, risky shots, bad angles…
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Rangers are, and were tonight, very very good in OT.
Atta boy, Craig.
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The East and the West are mine …
Did I miss the lockerroom interviews?
Former NHL Star Anson Carter coming up.
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AV: “I thought both teams played hard. Anything else?”
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You can’t be totally objective, or given the odds, you’ll rule out every season. Even the President’s Trophy teams only win occasionally. You gotta have some faith in your team, or at least believe in a little luck at the right time.
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According to NHL, Rangers lost in OT 2-4 🙂
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Our record in games Craig posts would guarantee us 1st pick in the draft. Nolan Patrick anybody!
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JT talks like he’s double-parked.
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Olga…. I’m all for having faith. Really….. I am. But it really is hard to get excited about this year’s group. After the first quarter of the season, the league figured them out. They’re a one trick pony that lacks grit. All you have to do is clog the neutral zone and/or play an aggressive forecheck against them and congrats, you just beat the NYR. Their best shot to win was 13′-14″ and 14′-15′ (but they were too banged up by the 3rd round). Look at the Penguins…. yes they have Crosby/Malkin…. but it’s their overall team game. They NEVER take their foot off the gas! They’re relentless! Can you say the same about our Rangers? I can’t…. and that, is why I don’t have faith. I wish I did. They’re a frustrating group. And I’m sorry but I think their energy/effort levels are direct reflection of their coach. I’m not saying I want torts…. and I have NO idea who would be a better option than AV at this point…. But, I just feel like with him at the helm, they lack the necessary fire in their belly to win the whole thing. This is his team, and while they exceeded expectations this year (most picked them to miss the playoffs before the season), they’re built way too soft. They don’t need to goon it up, but they need playable toughness.
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Agree
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Well Craig, then your season is over. But mine isn’t.
Don’t worry about the Penguins until they meet the Rangers in the playoffs. Who knows, someone might beat them for us.
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You’re the best, Alex. The BEST.
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Eerga
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Great job by Weather laying out the standard-issue Bonehead narrative. The soft, one-trick pony with the blah coach. Got into this prime position with mirrors, no doubt.
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Olga, do you not agree with any of the points I made? Are we watching the same games? I completely understand that no team is perfect and there’s more parody in the league then ever before. But, this team is just too soft. Soft teams don’t win in the playoffs. Remember last year? It wasn’t even remotely close. They folded up like a lawn chair. I very much enjoyed their runs in 11-12, 13-14 and 14-15. Those teams gave me great hope. This year’s team just doesn’t get me all jazzed up. I’d love more than anything for them to prove me wrong….. but it’s nights like tonight that reaffirm my general “meh” feeling about this group.
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Norm…. please point out to me a 60 minute effort this season. Point out to me the last time they dominated an opponent from start to finish…. You can’t, because they haven’t. It just feels like this season is a house of cards.
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CraigWeather, this year’s Rangers are not a dominant team. There are none of those this season, fortunately, which is why I like their chances.
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I can respect that, Norm.
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Parody/Parity
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Right back, Weather.
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You gots to fight for your right to parody.
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Sorry Craig, I got tied up watching the Hawks in OT. To answer your question, I think the Ranger team is flawed in several respects. But in the playoffs stranger things have happened. Eighth placed teams have won the Cup (LA) Favorites have been knock out in early rounds. Some teams jelled at the right time. Do the Rangers have a chance? A good chance? Any chance? The answer is yes, no ,yes. And that, in a nutshell is why we watch the games. I’m not jazzed up either but I’m waiting for the playoffs.
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http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/manhandled-alberta-kings-glory-years-feel-like-era-ago/
another team that has fallen on hard times
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I also have a less sophisticated reason to like the Rangers this year. I am a fan, have been for 50+ years. Love them!
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BTW the Black Hawks lost. The fell behind 4-1. In the third they scored 3 goals to tie and go to OT. I didn’t start carping about them falling behind by 3. I just watched the game and hoped they would pull it out somehow. They did and they didn’t. Lost in OT. Got a point though. Take what you can get and “s’port the team”.
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Heyyy yoooo! Big fan here! Huge! I love theee guys! But why they lose to these clowns tonight? They kicked out butts each fight! If I was out there I’d of beat up the whole team. These guys are too soft.
The worst part is that we lost with our good goalie. No heart! They stink. We’re done. Bums.
I lost big cash. I had 2 stacks on rangers winning by 2. Next autograph sessions they have, I’m gonna get the whole teams signatures and wipe my butt with it in their faces boy!!!!!!!
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A big fan blows a lot of hot air.
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On top of his ridiculous goal, Crosby also gave O’Reilly a vasectomy tonight.
https://mobile.twitter.com/A_Kalnins/status/844328031418286080/photo/1
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Carp, totally agree with your 846, 9;40 posts. Since these games don’t mean much right now, since their PO position is pretty much secured, I would go a step further and let Stephan watch from the press box. He is awful on PP, Rarely shoots and when he does he misses net. Also he is way too slow to get to the 50/50 pucks, which ultimately costs them valuable possession time on PP.
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I’ve decided to protest their lackluster play by not growing a playoff beard this year. Every year I grow one despite the fact that I don’t like the way it looks or the way it feels, especially in the warmer weather. If this team can’t put forth an effort for me, I can’t put forth one for them. I’ll still root for them, but I’m not going out of my way to help them.
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Crazy schedule when you have to play back to back game 7’s.
22, 42 & 26 are not Prust, Bickel & Rupper, but the team responded pretty well in the 3rd. The Rangers were not intimidated. If anything, the Devils woke them up.
I like Carp’s idea:
“IMO. Time to get 21 and/or 36 off the first PP, and separated at even strength. Time to get 40 back with 13 and 10, and 19 on fourth line.”
Wonder if AV decides to dress Glass?
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Chris Kreider is a shell of his former self whatever his former self was. Skates into the offensive zone alone the boards and loses the puck, or throws it behind the net to opposing player brilliant!
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should be interesting game tonight:
Facing the FishTanks second game of back to back after tough, physical game which ended in a loss in OT. Meanwhile, FishTanks are well-rested and are desperate for points.
However, let’s see if the Rangers excellent record in second game of back-to-backs as well as after a loss comes into play…
Oh yeah –the Rangers will be playing “in the Garden”, so there’s that.
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I don’t know how Carp does this night after night without blowing his brains out all over his typewriter.
Scholastic just called for permission to reprint last night’s comments in their entirety in chapter 1 of the latest version of its WCC Psych 101 textbook
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good morning all! It’s never over until it’s over……
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Glass tonight?
I would keep Stepan and Zucc together. It’s there LW I would change. Kreider needs line mates with speed who move the puck. Zibanijad should be Kreider center. Get him away from Carmello Zuccarello.
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If the Rangers win tonight we can count on “Fire and Brimstone coming do with from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling, forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, Volcanos, Dead Rising from the graves! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together mass hysteria…….!
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Yogi Berra’s wife had arranged to have the venetian blinds removed to be cleaned. Son Dale hollers into den where Yogi is watching Saturday football, “Pop, some men are at the door for the venetian blinds.” Yogi: “Go to my wallet on my dresser and trow them a few bucks.”
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Glass? What for? Anyone injured?
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Crosby once again proves that he is a dirty POS… wonder if he even got a penalty for that blatant assault on ROR… i bet not.
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“When you have a guy who holds the ball (puck), nobody’s moving the ball (puck), everything is out of whack. ”
That is Shaq on Carmello Anthony. I think it applies to Zucc as well.
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Shaq also thinks the world is flat, so …
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I’m sure some of you “fans” think Ottawa, Boston, Montreal, Toronto … these are all teams much, much, much better than the New York Rangers. Would be a miracle if the Rangers got a game off any of them in their first-round playoff loss.
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Said “fans” are the only ones who clearly see the team for what it is, through everyone else’s pom poms, and are no doubt convinced that their blizzard of sad comments will ironically serve the cosmic purpose of getting the team to win.
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when’s the last time this many Canadian teams made the playoffs?
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Tony Robbins
Larry Bird
Stephen Hawking
Russell Crowe
Lynn Swann
The Partridge Family
Jay-Z
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I was watching the game last night while on the phone when Fight Night at The Rock took place. Did Sam and Joe ever question or mention why Vesey and Lappin didn’t get game misconducts for their secondary fight?
Rule 56(f) says “(f) A game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who is assessed a major penalty for fighting after the original altercation.
Notwithstanding this Rule, at the discretion of the Referee, the automatic game misconduct penalty may be waived for a player in the altercation if the opposing player was clearly the instigator of the altercation.”
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Goose Gossage
Meadowlark Lemon
young Pam Grier (because she qualifies for every list no matter what it is)
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From the Lightbulb Finally Going Off Department: “That’s why I’m here,” Nash said. “To score.”
I nominate Olga to lead RR2 in cheer at the start of each go time. Craig can lead in jeer at the start of the post-game. Its the Yin-Yang of NYR fandom.
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Craig who? Craig fairweather?
Evrocksinking?
St. Elsewhere?
Eric the knight who says nah?
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Mark Fidrych.
Larry Robinson.
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Has Eric even been around?
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Ducky Medwick.
Rory Sparrow.
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FG, don’t you normally include Susan Sarandon?
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Glen Featherstone.
Ken Harrelson.
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Eric is waiting to jump in with a “See, I told you so. And you’se all thought I was crazy…”
Probably tonight.
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Shampoo Boy to play two of three in California, per the idiot coach who should be fired. (s)
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Fred Stanley.
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Rooster Cogburn.
Foghorn Leghorn.
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Matt Martin
BTW, what ever happened to Rhea?
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Sam the Eagle
Does it make me a bad person that I still like Susan Sarandon’s flotation devices?
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Anthony,
The fights took place simultaneously. No secondary fight.
Carp,
I think the Rangers can beat any team in the East. None of them scare me. Only Washington Pittsburg, and to a lesser extent, Montreal would be pick em series in my book.
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If Shaq thinks the earth is flat, he should get a look at Susan Sarandon’s 80 year-old boobs.
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Thanks BDL. I thought the Vesey-Lappin fight was the undercard but I guess I was mistaken.
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Matt Martin?
I know Tanner Glass did the chicken dance at Clutterbuck.
Don’t know if Rhea the Silent Bonehead knows about this place, or if she’s just sticking to her nickname.
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I don’t think the Rangers would have much of a chance at all if they had to play Washington-Pittsburgh back-to-back series. I think they’d beat Columbus (unless Bob was sensational), and Montreal (ditto Price). And be favored in any other series in the Atlantic.
But I’m not putting them automatically in the ECF, either, because of their inconsistency (and not because they’re too soft, the coach is an idiot, etc.).
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Ok, OK, so gravity takes its toll on all of us.
But I dig the fact that nothing she hasn’t done and nothing she wouldn’t try
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A Martin is a bird, no? Purple Martin?
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We sure get knocked around pretty good in front of certain teams’ nets and dish out precious little of the same at our end. Maybe all this is insignificant in the larger picture. Who knows?
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Haha. Martin. Now I get it.
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Glass’s chicken dance and Avery’s cat paw mockery worth the price of admission. Still can’t believe that the uber-obnoxious Avery survived as long as he did.
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Theoren did it to Cairns, too.
Robin Roberts.
Cardinal Hayes.
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Cardinal Hayes, lol
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Starling Castro
Syd Finch
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Sean Aviary
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Sean Avery:
580 games 90 goals 157 assists 247 points +16 1533 PIM
28 playoff games, 5 goals 10 assists
Career CF% 52.7
Hardly the worst stats to have on a third or even fourth line.
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I guess while we’re back on the topic of Sean Avery, we should also debate whether the Yankees should have traded Montero for Pineda
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Surprised not so much by Avery lasting on talent level, more on severe beating level.
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Agreed Coos, Avery was often on the bad end of a fight but credit him for taking a pounding and still yappin
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I know that when I wear banlon there appears to be some jiggling…
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Craig FairWeather lol. Touche… Well played.
For the record, I’m not a “fair weather” fan. I’m just a passionate fan who unfortunately can’t put the blinders on and indiscriminately wave my pom poms. I’ll do my best NOT to post in a negative fashion when they’re getting outplayed. I want these guys to win just as bad as you do…. and I want them to win as if they deserve it on “most” nights. I’d be foolish to think every game they win should be a dominant performance. I just think the majority of the games they’ve won after the first quarter of the season have been squeaked out and they were outplayed/outshot. I’m just calling it like I see it. But…. to recap, I want them to win just as bad as everyone else…. so, there’s that 🙂
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Claude Geroux
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Pretty sad- I spelled his name wrong with a picture of it right in front of me. Oh, well.
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Avery was a good and important player the first time he was a Ranger. The second time he was a
sad joke.
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Tweety.
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The one thing Avery could do (well, one of the things he could do) was skate. The one thing he couldn’t do (well, one of the things he couldn’t do) was play within a system. And the second time around, if not the first, get along with others.
And of course the positive was that he was a complete rat to the opposition. Like Glass should be, or Prust should have been, among others.
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BTW, Claude Giroux, a wonderfully skilled player, too often IMO: Woof.
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Craig – I’ll never question what you know or don’t know about hockey. What I’m saying is the justification that you usually give for your negative posts can be found almost word for word on every sports team’s blog, from one self-proclaimed realist. I can only speak for myself when I say that after a long day of work, I look forward to watching a game and to some dugout talk with the guys, but instead the blizzard of posts I see are like the 11th plague on Pharoah.
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No one believed me at the time (or didn’t want to comment) when I stated unequivocally that Avery was severely disliked by his teammates, especially second time around.
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How Hank ever got involved with him in owning a bar is mind-boggling.
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sloppy seconds love the hairdo
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Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs. Wooly Bully!
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Part of the Glass irony is that AV likes Glass specifically because he will act robotic, not be a pest, not lose his cool and do exactly as he is told. Carp is right in saying he’d be more valuable as a sly rat.
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Coos, I believed you. Always have. Always will.
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Avery’s a smart guy, or at least he projects such. I think Hank liked his fashion sense, his zest for life, all the away-from-the-rink stuff. … Little Topo did too.
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“Avery was severely disliked by his teammates, especially second time around.”
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Do you remember the players Rangers had second time Avery came around? Freaking Redden, E. Christensen, Higgins! Jody Shelley, BRASHEAR!! Jokinen! Kotalik! LISIN!!! My fuggin’ god!
No wonder he couldn’t get along with those “wonderful” hockey players…
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I quite honestly don’t remember Avery ever flat out losing a fight, especially within his weight class. He never took too many clean shots either within his class. Very evasive. Yeah, he did the smart “turtle” plenty of times against heavyweights, but was pretty damn good in his weight class.
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Now Prust on the other hand, never won a single fight.
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So we are still on the non realistic “this team has no faults” or “worst team in the league” posts…ah, the consistency and non reality of this place. Love it!!
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3C, my basement brother – what I meant (mostly) was that Avery’s over the top on-ice mouth and actions made a lot of the guys wary of the opposition losing their cool and taking out their injurious and nasty frustrations on THEM instead of upon Avery himself. Maybe not the noblest reason to dislike the guy, but understandable in the interest of self-preservation. And what Carp said about Hank and Topo makes sense. Never quite thought of it that way before.
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Wicky, there’s people that think the team has no faults and there are those that think the team has an abundant number of faults. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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The thing is, when they lose to teams like Florida and New Jersey, the abundant faults people can say, See I told ya so.
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Cross check
I agree 100%
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FWIW, I think this team, when talking wins and losses, has been one of the most consistent teams (if not THE most consistent team) in the league this year. No long win streaks or losing streaks (iirc). They also rarely have the best forward, d man, or goalie in the game, which is both good and bad.
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Stop making sense, Wicky.
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R.I.P. Dallas Green. Good man. I was there the night of the infamous “Manager George” comments. Classic.
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Dallas Green>Mike Green.
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This team is not greasy, which is passable in the regular season (I can only think of one game where they were clearly out played physicality aka “run out of the building”), but is going to hurt them in a long post season series or two because they are not the initiators.
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Yes, the rangers can win any series against another team in the playoffs, but so can the other teams.
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I think the rangers match up best against the pens and leaves, less so against the caps and sens. But yes, any team can beat any other team in the playoffs.
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Sorry carp, my bad.
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I also think AV, while not a finalist, should be in the top 6 in the Jack Adams voting.
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The thing that concerns me is there is a trend with AV coached teams. Those teams went to the cup once in his tenure, lost in 7 and 5 respectively but was in the top 3 of the conference in points year after year but would get knocked out of the 1st round of playoffs year after year. AV signed a extension so we will see how it plays out.
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All that being said, i still don’t like av’s line up decisions most of the time or his victim style of play of the team. I’d be fine with him gone.
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The Jack Wagon Trophy.
Torts for Adams? Or Humpty?
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AV never had the best team in the tournament as, say, Quenneville, Sutter, Sully have.
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Tommy
You are correct sir, I’m not a believer in the “making the playoffs” is considered a successful season theory. AV hasn’t won a cup until he has and I don’t think he’s got the prowess to win one. His past playoff record seems to back that up (to this point). I think his time is done here with an early ranger exit (which I hope does NOT happen, id love a Stanley cup this season…like every other one).
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Carp
Agree re best team.
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I’d go with torts for the Adams, followed by Boucher, gulutzen, Babcock, sully, av.
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Where in Holy Hell is the HAV Proprietor?
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AV can lose all the remaining games this season, including playoffs, and he will still be back next season.
Unless the crybabies pull another mutiny and whine that he’s too tough on them.
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Maybe the Rangers should run the Triangle on the power play. Phil Jackson could help them.
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Weren’t you supposed to tell us a little about the mutiny, Carp?
Missed it if you did.
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Carp
doodie is on vacation
Wicky
disagree on Pitt. If healthy they steamroll us again. Fortunately we’re in the atlantic bracket.
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Foghorn!!!
Carp- have the freak outs been bad since I posted the go time thread last night? Missed the whole game but saw your earlier post above t making their way through the Atlantic
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All this talk of the Rangers not being greasy yet how greasy were the Pens last year? Granted, we don’t have Sid and Geno, but remember the Pens defense wasn’t exactly filled with Norris Trophy candidates.
The Caps are plenty “greasy” with Ovie mowing down players and Wilson practically gooning it up and they have Holtby in goal (and some other good players too), but how well did they do?
Funny how the Rangers seem to be greasy enough to run roughshod over those big, bad Western Conference teams that were supposed to run the Rangers out of the rink.
For all their warts, the Rangers have the fifth best record in the NHL with:the league’s most inconsistent PP and PK, with their best player (Hank) being inconsistent and banged up, with two of their top centers suffering through goal-scoring droughts (you can toss in LINK and Nash too).
Are the Rangers a perfect team, or even a perfect playoff team – NO! But then again, sometimes they get treated like a Knicks team with prima donnas who are coasting through yet another misery of a season with little relief in sight.
Sometimes perspective is a good thing.
With that said, could we please win Game 7 tonight!
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Big game tonight, all on the line. Rangers must, must, must wi… stay healthy.
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Did someone say Grease?
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Anthony
In my opinion, the pens are a pretty greasy team. Crosby, Malkin, letang, Kunitz are all greasy. Remember Crosby ragdolling mcdonut around the ice? The pens don’t have to give a roster spot to a player like glass to be greasy, their top line guys do it just fine.
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The pens are more than greasy enough. And it’s their letter wearing, top players that lead the way.
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Avery gave his organs to this organization. Nuff said.
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I think anyone that doesn’t believe you have to be a tough team to play against to succeed in this league and win a cup needs to watch more NHL hockey.
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Stop Making Sense – Talking Heads
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I poured root beer in a square glass.
Now I just have beer.
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Rangers Killing Wick Softly With Their Song.
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Fresh New Clean Post for Norm and Wicky to duke it out on!
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Fresh New Clean Post for Norm and Wicky to duke it out on!
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No game thread tonight? And where is Olga, we need some pregame cheer! I predict a GWG from an unusal source: Opie!
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fyi, a front-office person told me the other day that Pittsburgh is the team that scares the Rangers the most because of their speed and skill and defensive style and because their goalie is really good, a k a, the Rangers might not have a big edge in that department.
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