Guess noting happens until Splats has everyone to LaQuinta. There they will probably all get bonuses and an option grant for bringing James Dolan 6 home playoff games. After all, THAT is the crucial issue for this club. Profits over cups, and Bettman guaranteed the profit part with the salary cap and multiple lockouts.
Carp, just read your piece, it’s good, but an issue with the expansion stuff: The MSG video says Lindberg is not eligible and you do not list him among those likely to be selected by Vegas. However he most certainly IS eligible for the expansion draft and depending on how Vegas approaches the draft, he could be one of the more attractive options on our team.
I’ll take your word for it RR2. I do remember being a little disappointed with Gropp in the pre season. I thought he looked a little slow. What do you know of Poink? I have seen him mentioned having a chance to make the team next year. Is that realistic?
I saw him a little bit, but I don’t have an eye for judging players in the college game because of how different it is from the NHL, whereas major junior is very similar, but sloppier. That being said, I’ve read some sources that suggest he could be ready to contribute in a 3rd pairing role as early as next year, and I’ve read others that suggest he’s Matt Gilroy.
Good for Dallas now, not so good in three years. Seeing as how they’re trying to win now, it makes sense, provided they can dump one or both of the other two goaltenders.
Stepan and Ryan graves to Colorado for duchene. Saw that in hockey news column by Adam proteau. Mentions Colorado should leverage duchene or landeskog as bidding war between rangers and caps
Bobby, I’m not claiming definitively that he is, and if it reads that way, it’s a mistake on my end. I think he will be, but as you correctly point out, it’s way too early.
Also, you have to remember what was spent in order to pick him in that spot. They really stuck their neck out for him, so if he doesn’t produce, it will be weighed more heavily than if they had just taken him with their own 2nd round pick.
I find the most telling fact about this team and the type of players they have is when “on paper” they are the better team but lose.
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Tells me the “non measurable” things aka intangibles are seriously lacking in this group.
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Will still trumps (no, not him) skill in 2017.
Again, you have to address the centre position.
Duchene would be my first choice, RNH my second.
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No way I leave lindberg unprotected. I expose a winger (fast or grabner) before a centre.
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I also do not send miller for trouba. I want trouba the most as far as D men go (not to mention his contract fits nicely if a vet D man is bought out and Nash is still here).
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I think this team also needs a 4th line centre that is good on draws with some skill…Nate Thompson type.
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I’d consider sending buch in a deal as a seeetner for trouba or duchene. Also wouldn’t object to skjeL in a deal for a top line centre.
I think the Rangers were the better team on the ice, Wick. Not just on paper. The better team in five of the six games.
Doodie, I texted with Valliquette. Somebody gave them bad info, I’m pretty sure. … Lindberg has played four years pro. I don’t see any way he’s exempt.
Lindberg is the 4th center. Obviously would prefer Duchene to RNH. RNH does intrigue me though. Maybe he finds his game here like Brassard did. Don’t think trading Skjei makes sense. There are no untouchables, but it would take something really good for me to trade Buchnevich.
Said it this time last year- Skjei is not the kind of player you move. Agree no one is untouchable but he’s your best young dman right now and makes less than a million a year. Need more guys like him.
Would you trade this year’s first rounder plus Chris Kreider to get Duchene? Maybe force Sakic to take Marc Staal’s contract by taking back someone else he wants to move that’s going to be on an expiring deal?
I don’t know what Trouba’s situation is since the drama ended and he resigned. I know Anaheim is still going to have to work things out win or lose this year and may want to move Vatanen or Manson instead of losing one in the expansion draft. Both righty. Both better than the Cody Fransons of the world…
Eric obviously in a scenario where they acquire another center, it’s Stepan who gets moved before or afterwards. I think you’re going to see some moves made before July 1 thanks to the Expansion draft.
if I could only trade for one or the other between Trouba and Duchene, hmm, that’s a difficult one. I was going to say Trouba, and I think I still lean that way, but players like Duchene are hard to get.
Uh…. we are being led to believe that in the past year, Buchnevich has grown 2 inches and put on 35 lbs. of muscle. Suddenly he’s listed as 6’2, 192. This stuff really pisses me off.
Well I’ll make it even tougher BDL. If you’re like me and don’t consider Shattenkirk an option, there really isn’t an a viable ufa option this year. For that matter, there’s not much in the way of attractive ufa dmen over the next 2-3. Unless you think Drew Doughty or someone of his caliber are going to not get resigned by their current team
Rangers have Graves and Gilmour in the system they re-signed Kampfer and brought in I think two young blue liners in the last two months? It’s all fine and good but again none of that equates to a top pairing right handed D man that can play permanently along side our captain. I do the Trouba deal or a similar one without question 10 out of 10
I’m not a Shatennkirk fan, and I think he has already expressed his desire to get every last penny, not an option. I think Trouba or one of the Wild Dman are the way to go on D.
Coos that’s nothomg I’m 6′ tall my dr has me in his chart as 5’10 1/2 and my driver’s license says I’m 5’9.
I’m either shrinking or need to work on my posture
By the way does anyone anticipate them actually resigning Brendan Smith? Really had some strong moments in the post season but had some bad ones too. Wasn’t impressed overall.
I know he’s a gentleman, but it pissed me off to see McDonagh patting Karlsson on the chest during handshakes. We need a couple of energetic, nasty birds next season in this lineup.
James, interesting comment. We are so starved for a little snarl, we all fell immediately in love with Smith who in reality hasn’t really proved anything yet around here in terms of consistency. Here’s hoping he does, but I need to see more.
Coos that’s just it. While the mediocrity amongst the top 9 forwards was a telling story about this team management cannot allow themselves to be fooled by guys that raised their game for the post season. Smith was underwhelming through March and April. If that’s the majority of what we’ll get we don’t need another lefty Dman that is meant for a third pairing.
I thought it was funny that everyone thought Stepan had a bad playoffs, including him. He’s had 49 pts in 97 games, a pretty good sample size. He had 6 pts in 12 games…right on his career average. Only in pro sports can you be washed up at 26.
People get fixed in points. I’m as big a Stepan fan as you will find. He was awful in the playoffs. I don’t care how many points he had, or if it was his normal point production for the playoffs, he was not good.
Stepan was behind the play consistently, he made rookie decisions with the puck, he lacked any sort of physical presence and he was brain dead on the PP.
was the worst post season showing of Stepans career. Point totals aside he’s been a reliable “intangible guy” as Wicky would say. Has had some timely goals in the past. But I don’t expect Crazy offensive production from him in the playoffs. I don’t expect 30 goals and 30 power play points from him in the regular season either. I know what he is at this point. But if he’s not going to make smart decisions on the defensive side of the puck and he isn’t going to make any good decisions with it (especially on the pp) and he’s not improving his face off % anytime soon..now we have a problem.
I think Stepan still has some trade value. I can’t help but question whether he’s done enough in the off seasons to maximize his potential and continue to get better, stonger, faster, etc.
I think the motivation to impress a new coach, teammates and fan base, as well as a different system, might jump start him. Not saying he’s a true 1C. Only that he may not have peeked.
Hopefully other GM’s around the league feel the same way. That said, I’m all for trying to move him for something that makes the Rangers better before his NMC kicks in.
Carp, the next time you text Valliquette tell him I think he’s been doing a tremendous job over the past 3 months. Keeps getting better and better as an analyst. I actually watch the post game, now. I just wait until Duguay is done yammering like an idiot.
“Would you trade this year’s first rounder plus Chris Kreider to get Duchene? ”
Yes, and then I’d trade Stepan for a winger or defenseman.
Maybe it’s just my bias but I don’t need an 8 million dollar center who gives me a goal every 4 games in his best years. BTW, I know he’s 6.5 against the Cap.
68/59 Great Googamooga! I think I remember shooting something like 112 from the long tips at Grossinger’s Monster some years back but you couldn’t cross fairways with the carts so I tried to aim all my shots along the cartpaths 🙂
Needless to say when I (often) ended up on the wrong side of the ‘fairway’ I had to walk a quarter mile to the ball and back carrying four clubs. Not only that, it was so plush/wet you got no roll at all on drives, they just plopped. I lost interest pretty quick.
NY Rangers season in review.
“Great season! Had a gimme playoff schedule, playing teams that rangers were better than. But when the chips were high, our Junk Goalie may also have been high.”
If they wanna win it all, they put in Randaa. If they did, we’d still be watching hockey. I tried a lot this year. I went balls to the wall in to being a fan! And they screwed me. Not as bad as the Knicks. But, let’s be honest, they’re not the Knicks. Nobody watches hockey around here for some reason. Maybe if the dumb coach spoke English instead of that dumb accent that nobody understands, he’d know his goalie stunk, and needed to swap out to keep going. I know you’s all like the goalie. He was great a while ago. But he ain’t getting any younger. He’s gotta go. He makes too much money. Give him to that new expansion team in Seattle or Portland (I forget which one) let them take his salary and cap full on. Bring up randaa he’s got a ring I heard. Not sure though. Never looked it up. If he does, then the coach needs to be arrested and hung by his balls for not putting in a goalie with a ring already. MORON!
Good morning Boneheads! Where is everybody? Is Stepan still a Ranger?Trade Nash now we’re not winning with him or without him. I wonder if Gorton has gotten any restful sleep since game 6.
AV: “What I can’t outright say, but what you can gather in reading between my lines is that I took a bunch of underperforming duds, some overawed young kids, and a few over the hill albatrosses and carried them a long way solely by my personal genius and guile.”
Wicky on your 1:50 comment – yes, they underperformed when they were the “better” on paper. But they also seemed to outperform when they were the “lesser” on paper. It is an odd but not uncommon thing in sports – plenty of good teams in history play terribly against lesser opponents or with the lead yet seem to be lights out if they are the dog or within reach late.
But I do agree (and said the other day) they need to move not just Steph (performance issues, looming nmc, aging early) but also a lot of the leadership/core group. Its just not worked out and you need to let the kids develop their own personality/style of game and ride that.
Re Smith – and Carp has said it many times this year – we have incredibly myoptic views of our defensemen (including those in minors). Look around at the rest of the league. You will find few, if any, where fans are not critical of their inconsistencies. So rather than seeking the perfect and unobtainable, better to ask if the player in question is an upgrade and if they bring something to the team that is lacking and needed. Smith, at some price, may fit that bill.
IMO the first priority for a trade should be Stephan considering the impending NMC and diminishing talent. He plays too many key minutes, especially on PP and the team needs much more than he brings to the table. The next priority to trade is Kreider. Immense talent with zero hockey IQ. He takes way too many periods and/or games off, which is completely unacceptable. He also will bring the highest possible return (top pair D or top center/Prospect). Trade him out west so you only see him a couple of times a year. The bottom line is that the Rangers are not winning a cup in the next 2-3 years, so they need top prospects or top 5 pick so you have top young talent in 2-3 years. That young talent is also cheaper which helps with the cap and may allow a decent FA signing in 2-3 years. If you keep Stall and Girardi 1-2 more years, the buyout is much cheaper. Trading Stephan and Kreider also allow you the ability to protect Linbergh & Fast and maybe Grabner. The key is to plan to win a Cup, not just compete in a round or two in the playoffs so you need to have a longer term plan. Three years from now, you will have a new core that is much younger with the Top 1C and top pair D you add with theses trades plus McD, Skeiji, Vesey, Miller, Buch, Zbad, Lindbergh, Fast, Hayes(?), Smith(?), 2017 1st round pick(?). I would rather go through 2-3 painful years with a better chance at a Cup than the same old, same old, building toward PO revenue rather than the ultimate prize. Interested to hear everyones thoughts as many of you have much better insight than I do.
Friday night 6:00 starts are brutal out here. Most of thre seats were filled last night, but not until after the first period because people were sitting around in their cars 5 miles from the place not able to get there. Look……….you guys complain about the crap atmosphere at MSG these days……..it is never good out here. San Jose…now that’s a crowd and fun building. Everywhere else in CA……..weak. The only place I have been that is worse is Phoenix.
Based upon this year’s playoffs, you could make the argument that Lundqvist can’t play every playoff game anymore. Maybe he takes every 3rd or 4th game off. I know it’s an unorthodox approach and the temptation would be to continue to put him back out there after a win, but I think he’s just better with an extra day’s rest.
If Raanta goes to Vegas, backup goalie becomes major priority for Gorton.
Is the Russian kid ready to come over? Will he come over at all?
Jerry, are you blind? He’s a writer. He said his name was Sal Bass. Bass, Jerry! Instead of salmon, he went with bass! He just substituted one fish for another!
Am I the only one who’s completely baffled by the hype machine surround Erik Karlsson? Superstar for sure, but they’re starting to talk about him like he’s the second coming of Orr. And about how he’s been dominating the playoffs like no other player for years. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he was pretty good against us, but it wasn’t like we were sitting around freaking out that we didn’t have an answer for the magic of Erik Karlsson. Yes he’s playing injured, yes he’s putting up points, but I didn’t see a freakishly-dominant generational talent out there. Honestly I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
I would not trade Miller. I could be convinced to trade THE Kreider if the return is huge. Anaheim needs forwards. They are stacked on D, and have a couple in the AHL that have not played in the NHL yet that will. I am fine with trading Stepan excepting that I will have to trash the Stepan jersey I have. I would love to see the Rangers get Matt Duchene…….there would be your #1 center. I bet Duchene ends up in Montreal.
I’d be more inclined to trade Hayes than miller or kreider. Ideally, you get a 1C (let’s say duchene). You slot zpack at 2, lindberg at 3, then get a true 4C that can win draws (Nate Thompson type).
Miller, kreider, sideshow bob, Vessy, Nash (if still here), Hayes (if still here) are your top 9 wingers.
Other option is still with 1C acquisition, zpack 2, add a guy like Hanzal as a 3, use lindberg. As 4. This scenario would imo require the moving of Nash due to hanzal $$$$.
Danny G said, and I’m paraphrasing here… even though this group haven’t got the job done all these years, he still thinks that these guys are the right guys to get the job done.
Just listened to Cerney’s Blueshirt Radio podcast. He does a great job.
Dan Rosen was on and he repeated an option Zipay had considered which was Kreider for Justin Faulk.
It sounds like Faulk is better defensively than Shattenkirk.
If there wasn’t a cap all of these guys are the right guys to do it. Can be contributors. G and staal would get praise as getting older but still being solid contributors as 4-7 guys. Stepan is still a top-notch 2nd line center. (My ASSumptive theory on stepan. He puts a lot of time and energy (rightfully so) into his wife and kid(s) when he’s away from the rink.) step needs to start training Gary suter style. he should really train his legs for power and quickness. If he can get quicker through training/skating sessions, he’ll regain his edge. Crossroads for step.
So long as the Ducks or Preds win the cup, it matters not. Strangely enough, as much as I hate the pens, and I HATE the pens, I’m rooting against ah-2-Wah
Where were all these penalties against our sexy boys? 4PP for the pens in the first period. None against. Total reversal in the calls for and against the Sens.
Anderson putting on a show. Good for him. He’s one of those guys who doesn’t get a lot of respect. Hope he leads them to the SCF (guessing Karlsson might have a bit to do with that too…)!
Ottawa gets rooked out of a goal. Plays prevent defense and gets burned. If they now lose in OT, I would suspect them of being the Rangers in disguise.
The assumption that the Rangers couldn’t beat the Pens makes the loss to the Sens more palatable. If the Sens somehow beat Pittsburgh it makes the Rangers losing to them much more painful since we can begin to think there was a path to the Cup and they just blew it. That hurts a lot more.
I have no problem with the sens winning the cup, or ducks. Preds would be ok. Pens meh. Rangers would be ideal.
As long as it isn’t the flyers, isles, lightning, or devils…im ok.
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I’m watching every game of both series and the finals regardless of who is playing. It’s still hockey.
Who I am? Or who am I? Who am I is a question for the ages everyone wants to know who am I who’s in there who wants to come out and say hey! I’m hungry. Who I am, is too deep. Too prof you gotta go in there and yank out the thing like in the movie where the thing jumped out of the guys stomach and ate up all the people on the freakin space ship May they Rest In Peace…
Kevin Hayes got player of the game for the US in their 6-1 win over Slovakia. Saw Skjei out there as well. I only caught the last 3 minutes so didn’t see much of it.
Wow Hayes. Nice game… The miniature goalie for Denmark is having quite the game against the Swedes. Hank can’t escape the curse of the backup goalies no matter who he plays for..
Wow. Hank got steamrolled. Hit in the head but no call. Strange. NHL would have pulled him for the protocol and rightfully so. Meanwhile Lindberg is loving playing with Nylander and Backstrom!
Maybe ther Rangers should spend the farm on getting Johnny Hockey. Hayes plays well with him……..which brings up another interesting point. Hayes did not contribute much playing with Fast and Grabner. Not exactly Stamkos and Gaudreau on his wings.
And to show you I’m not all dollars and cents……she was beautiful, she was gorgeous, she was the greatest piece of azz I’ve ever had and I’ve had ’em all.
IMHO the forwards to trade are Stepan, Nash, and Zucc not winning a cup with them or without them. Just don’t believe on giving up on the young core yet. Desperately need blueline help.
Rangers Report 2.0 
Have they traded everyone yet?
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Guess noting happens until Splats has everyone to LaQuinta. There they will probably all get bonuses and an option grant for bringing James Dolan 6 home playoff games. After all, THAT is the crucial issue for this club. Profits over cups, and Bettman guaranteed the profit part with the salary cap and multiple lockouts.
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IDK jjjp. but if they aren’t going to trade everyone maybe they can fire everyone…by noon would be ideal for most.
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one too many j’s there. sorry sir
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was that jjp or jpp?
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BDL, Gropp is a bust. His big season was totally the result of playing with an actual legit prospect in Matthew Barzal, who was simply dominant.
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Carp, just read your piece, it’s good, but an issue with the expansion stuff: The MSG video says Lindberg is not eligible and you do not list him among those likely to be selected by Vegas. However he most certainly IS eligible for the expansion draft and depending on how Vegas approaches the draft, he could be one of the more attractive options on our team.
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I’ll take your word for it RR2. I do remember being a little disappointed with Gropp in the pre season. I thought he looked a little slow. What do you know of Poink? I have seen him mentioned having a chance to make the team next year. Is that realistic?
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I saw him a little bit, but I don’t have an eye for judging players in the college game because of how different it is from the NHL, whereas major junior is very similar, but sloppier. That being said, I’ve read some sources that suggest he could be ready to contribute in a 3rd pairing role as early as next year, and I’ve read others that suggest he’s Matt Gilroy.
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Ben Bishop cheap at 6×5?
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Lindberg is available mis print by msg post game the other night. Why I have no idea.
Is Jacob trouba a ranger yet. Send Miller packing
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good deal for both BDL
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Good for Dallas now, not so good in three years. Seeing as how they’re trying to win now, it makes sense, provided they can dump one or both of the other two goaltenders.
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Kevin Shattenkirk excited about free agency, wants to talk to #Caps first but will also discuss with other teams. Intrigued by Vegas.
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Please sign their shatty.
Stepan and Ryan graves to Colorado for duchene. Saw that in hockey news column by Adam proteau. Mentions Colorado should leverage duchene or landeskog as bidding war between rangers and caps
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bit premature to claim Gropp to be a bust — speed and size useful at a minimum and he was projected as power winger….not many of those around
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So Miller for Trouba. And Stepan and Graves for Duchene. I would hesitate, but do the Miller one. Duchene? Where do I sign.
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Bobby, I’m not claiming definitively that he is, and if it reads that way, it’s a mistake on my end. I think he will be, but as you correctly point out, it’s way too early.
Also, you have to remember what was spent in order to pick him in that spot. They really stuck their neck out for him, so if he doesn’t produce, it will be weighed more heavily than if they had just taken him with their own 2nd round pick.
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If Stepan for Duchene was anywhere within the realm of possibility, I would move heaven and earth for it to happen.
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I hope Gorton gets busy ASAP and unloads some of these cream puff underperformers..i want to see activity like this
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When signing the Girardi and Staal extensions, they saw an incorrect crop report.
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SELL…..SELL…..SELL…..SELL….
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nice one RR 2.0 lol
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I find the most telling fact about this team and the type of players they have is when “on paper” they are the better team but lose.
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Tells me the “non measurable” things aka intangibles are seriously lacking in this group.
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Will still trumps (no, not him) skill in 2017.
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Again, you have to address the centre position.
Duchene would be my first choice, RNH my second.
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No way I leave lindberg unprotected. I expose a winger (fast or grabner) before a centre.
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I also do not send miller for trouba. I want trouba the most as far as D men go (not to mention his contract fits nicely if a vet D man is bought out and Nash is still here).
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I think this team also needs a 4th line centre that is good on draws with some skill…Nate Thompson type.
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I’d consider sending buch in a deal as a seeetner for trouba or duchene. Also wouldn’t object to skjeL in a deal for a top line centre.
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I think the Rangers were the better team on the ice, Wick. Not just on paper. The better team in five of the six games.
Doodie, I texted with Valliquette. Somebody gave them bad info, I’m pretty sure. … Lindberg has played four years pro. I don’t see any way he’s exempt.
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Lindberg is the 4th center. Obviously would prefer Duchene to RNH. RNH does intrigue me though. Maybe he finds his game here like Brassard did. Don’t think trading Skjei makes sense. There are no untouchables, but it would take something really good for me to trade Buchnevich.
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Lindberg info was wrong. He is eligible for expansion. Msg was lost
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Said it this time last year- Skjei is not the kind of player you move. Agree no one is untouchable but he’s your best young dman right now and makes less than a million a year. Need more guys like him.
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Looking goooood Billy Ray!
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Would you trade this year’s first rounder plus Chris Kreider to get Duchene? Maybe force Sakic to take Marc Staal’s contract by taking back someone else he wants to move that’s going to be on an expiring deal?
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I want stepan gone. Tired of him. Would love trouba or Faulk in Carolina.
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Got to give to get. Not getting great players for Glass and Fast.
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By the way 5th in metro next year book it.
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I don’t know what Trouba’s situation is since the drama ended and he resigned. I know Anaheim is still going to have to work things out win or lose this year and may want to move Vatanen or Manson instead of losing one in the expansion draft. Both righty. Both better than the Cody Fransons of the world…
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Would COL do a swap of Stepan for Barrie/Bogosian/Faulk? Will the Rangers have interest in Oshie if (and hopefully when) we move Stepan?
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**Would COL/BUF/CAR do a swap of Stepan for Barrie/Bogosian/Faulk? Will the Rangers have interest in Oshie if (and hopefully when) we move Stepan?
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James,
No I wouldn’t. But then again, I am a big Kreider fan, so I am a bit biased.
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Eric obviously in a scenario where they acquire another center, it’s Stepan who gets moved before or afterwards. I think you’re going to see some moves made before July 1 thanks to the Expansion draft.
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Colonel Sanders is chicken
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They’ll make a big push for the first wild card and that easy crossover
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WHATS wrong colonel Sanders?! Chicken?!
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if I could only trade for one or the other between Trouba and Duchene, hmm, that’s a difficult one. I was going to say Trouba, and I think I still lean that way, but players like Duchene are hard to get.
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BDL I may be as big of a Kreider supporter as you are. But if no one is untouchable….
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Uh…. we are being led to believe that in the past year, Buchnevich has grown 2 inches and put on 35 lbs. of muscle. Suddenly he’s listed as 6’2, 192. This stuff really pisses me off.
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Well I’ll make it even tougher BDL. If you’re like me and don’t consider Shattenkirk an option, there really isn’t an a viable ufa option this year. For that matter, there’s not much in the way of attractive ufa dmen over the next 2-3. Unless you think Drew Doughty or someone of his caliber are going to not get resigned by their current team
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Rangers have Graves and Gilmour in the system they re-signed Kampfer and brought in I think two young blue liners in the last two months? It’s all fine and good but again none of that equates to a top pairing right handed D man that can play permanently along side our captain. I do the Trouba deal or a similar one without question 10 out of 10
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I’m not a Shatennkirk fan, and I think he has already expressed his desire to get every last penny, not an option. I think Trouba or one of the Wild Dman are the way to go on D.
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Coos that’s nothomg I’m 6′ tall my dr has me in his chart as 5’10 1/2 and my driver’s license says I’m 5’9.
I’m either shrinking or need to work on my posture
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BDL no interest in Josh Manson/Sami Vatanen if Anaheim has to shop one?
No to Tyson Barrie by the way.
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By the way does anyone anticipate them actually resigning Brendan Smith? Really had some strong moments in the post season but had some bad ones too. Wasn’t impressed overall.
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I know he’s a gentleman, but it pissed me off to see McDonagh patting Karlsson on the chest during handshakes. We need a couple of energetic, nasty birds next season in this lineup.
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James, interesting comment. We are so starved for a little snarl, we all fell immediately in love with Smith who in reality hasn’t really proved anything yet around here in terms of consistency. Here’s hoping he does, but I need to see more.
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McD to Karlsson: “when I played with a broken foot it cost us a trip to the SCF. Good job”
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Smith will get paid more then we offer.
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Coos that’s just it. While the mediocrity amongst the top 9 forwards was a telling story about this team management cannot allow themselves to be fooled by guys that raised their game for the post season. Smith was underwhelming through March and April. If that’s the majority of what we’ll get we don’t need another lefty Dman that is meant for a third pairing.
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Boy wait until Doodie sees that I brought up signing Smith again. I may get banned and I’m not even in favor of bringing the guy back
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love the idea of carp and valliquette as texting buddies, hahaha, that made me smile
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On second thought,
It’s not me, it’s you
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I thought it was funny that everyone thought Stepan had a bad playoffs, including him. He’s had 49 pts in 97 games, a pretty good sample size. He had 6 pts in 12 games…right on his career average. Only in pro sports can you be washed up at 26.
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Stepan for Do-Shane and Kog
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Stepan’s Mom stays
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In pro sports you’re washed-up once performance doesn’t meet expectation.
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People get fixed in points. I’m as big a Stepan fan as you will find. He was awful in the playoffs. I don’t care how many points he had, or if it was his normal point production for the playoffs, he was not good.
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Thought Smith was solid overall.. all depends on the price. He can move the puck, has a little snarl and can play both RD and LD
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Stepan was behind the play consistently, he made rookie decisions with the puck, he lacked any sort of physical presence and he was brain dead on the PP.
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Ad in face offs to that list
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I’m not sure Spending the teams last cap-dollars on Smith is smart. Tough call for Gorton.
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General Tso’s Chicken too.
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I’m 6-1, 185.
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26 years old, with a full head of hair.
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My Mama says that alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
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Stepan and Ryan Graves for Duchene?
I am down! I am totally DOWN! Mark me DOWN!
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was the worst post season showing of Stepans career. Point totals aside he’s been a reliable “intangible guy” as Wicky would say. Has had some timely goals in the past. But I don’t expect Crazy offensive production from him in the playoffs. I don’t expect 30 goals and 30 power play points from him in the regular season either. I know what he is at this point. But if he’s not going to make smart decisions on the defensive side of the puck and he isn’t going to make any good decisions with it (especially on the pp) and he’s not improving his face off % anytime soon..now we have a problem.
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I’m 5’4 140 and I have snarl!
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I think Stepan still has some trade value. I can’t help but question whether he’s done enough in the off seasons to maximize his potential and continue to get better, stonger, faster, etc.
I think the motivation to impress a new coach, teammates and fan base, as well as a different system, might jump start him. Not saying he’s a true 1C. Only that he may not have peeked.
Hopefully other GM’s around the league feel the same way. That said, I’m all for trying to move him for something that makes the Rangers better before his NMC kicks in.
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Carp, the next time you text Valliquette tell him I think he’s been doing a tremendous job over the past 3 months. Keeps getting better and better as an analyst. I actually watch the post game, now. I just wait until Duguay is done yammering like an idiot.
“Would you trade this year’s first rounder plus Chris Kreider to get Duchene? ”
Yes, and then I’d trade Stepan for a winger or defenseman.
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https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/oscar-lindberg-is-joining-sweden-for-the-world-championships/229867184
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Duck a l’Orange is not chicken
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Take the training wheels off Kreider and let him fly. He’s not going to learn anything anyway.
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Maybe it’s just my bias but I don’t need an 8 million dollar center who gives me a goal every 4 games in his best years. BTW, I know he’s 6.5 against the Cap.
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Scallopini is not always chicken but you never know
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Welsh rarebit is not rabbit
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lol I was in grad school before I realized that welsh rarebit was cheese over toast.
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So whose the Ranger who needs surgery and why do I have to ask? What is this, North Korea?
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did I just type ‘whose’?
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Of course I know it’s whoose.
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A Pageau, thank you very much
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I think I speak on behalf the f everyone when I say thank god you aren’t Joe Thornton.
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I asked Sean Spicer about the guy who needs surgery. He said it’s Fake News.
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I have tapes of Carp and Dolan. Carp said ‘tell me what to say; they’ll believe anything.’
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DidRR2 just say f everyone?
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he did and I seen it
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did you see this one? I found somebody I want to play for money.
http://www.golf.com/tour-news/2017/05/11/pro-shoots-55-over-127-us-open-local-qualifying
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68/59 Great Googamooga! I think I remember shooting something like 112 from the long tips at Grossinger’s Monster some years back but you couldn’t cross fairways with the carts so I tried to aim all my shots along the cartpaths 🙂
Needless to say when I (often) ended up on the wrong side of the ‘fairway’ I had to walk a quarter mile to the ball and back carrying four clubs. Not only that, it was so plush/wet you got no roll at all on drives, they just plopped. I lost interest pretty quick.
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AD: WANTED, WOMAN WITH GOLF CART. SEND PICTURE OF CART
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Holy CRAP…. look at all the empty seats at the duck pond…. unreal. Wonder if it’s because of the early start time….
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NY Rangers season in review.
“Great season! Had a gimme playoff schedule, playing teams that rangers were better than. But when the chips were high, our Junk Goalie may also have been high.”
If they wanna win it all, they put in Randaa. If they did, we’d still be watching hockey. I tried a lot this year. I went balls to the wall in to being a fan! And they screwed me. Not as bad as the Knicks. But, let’s be honest, they’re not the Knicks. Nobody watches hockey around here for some reason. Maybe if the dumb coach spoke English instead of that dumb accent that nobody understands, he’d know his goalie stunk, and needed to swap out to keep going. I know you’s all like the goalie. He was great a while ago. But he ain’t getting any younger. He’s gotta go. He makes too much money. Give him to that new expansion team in Seattle or Portland (I forget which one) let them take his salary and cap full on. Bring up randaa he’s got a ring I heard. Not sure though. Never looked it up. If he does, then the coach needs to be arrested and hung by his balls for not putting in a goalie with a ring already. MORON!
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Did not expect Stepan to get sewered on HNIC. Thought he’d get eternal praise like Seabrook.
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No one has brought up Nash yet…interesting.
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It was cherry. You think cherry would attack the good Canadian boy?
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So which one of you’s thinks I’m wrong? If you can say something useful please do
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Silferberg/arvidsson
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nobody’s beating Ottawa.
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I want Ottawa-Nashville and to see Neil obliterate Neal and vice versa.
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Preds eat Ducks!
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Neal with the OT winner.
Traid Nash for Neal.
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Preds eat everything.
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“Headless Body in Topless Bar!”
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“Army Camouflage Vehicle Disappears”
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How does Carlyle put out those two D-men in overtime? (sarcasm).
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I has ducks/sens final
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I’ll be watching baseball unless it’s Penguins-Ducks.
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AV likes the Ducks because his shorts are caught in his quack
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Spanish GP qualifying coming up in less than 8 hours…woo hoo
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Is this thing on?
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Go Vettel!
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Good morning Boneheads! Where is everybody? Is Stepan still a Ranger?Trade Nash now we’re not winning with him or without him. I wonder if Gorton has gotten any restful sleep since game 6.
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Nashville in 6. Pens in 5.
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When he’s right he’s right.
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Great game in Anaheim last night… those several thousand empty seats at the Honda Center arena really loved the game! Good for NHL!
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Building a wall around Sweden C3?
🤔
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Imagine a Nashville vs Ottawa final? Sounds like Something that would be on ESPN 8: “The Ocho”
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AV: “What I can’t outright say, but what you can gather in reading between my lines is that I took a bunch of underperforming duds, some overawed young kids, and a few over the hill albatrosses and carried them a long way solely by my personal genius and guile.”
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Wicky on your 1:50 comment – yes, they underperformed when they were the “better” on paper. But they also seemed to outperform when they were the “lesser” on paper. It is an odd but not uncommon thing in sports – plenty of good teams in history play terribly against lesser opponents or with the lead yet seem to be lights out if they are the dog or within reach late.
But I do agree (and said the other day) they need to move not just Steph (performance issues, looming nmc, aging early) but also a lot of the leadership/core group. Its just not worked out and you need to let the kids develop their own personality/style of game and ride that.
Re Smith – and Carp has said it many times this year – we have incredibly myoptic views of our defensemen (including those in minors). Look around at the rest of the league. You will find few, if any, where fans are not critical of their inconsistencies. So rather than seeking the perfect and unobtainable, better to ask if the player in question is an upgrade and if they bring something to the team that is lacking and needed. Smith, at some price, may fit that bill.
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IMO the first priority for a trade should be Stephan considering the impending NMC and diminishing talent. He plays too many key minutes, especially on PP and the team needs much more than he brings to the table. The next priority to trade is Kreider. Immense talent with zero hockey IQ. He takes way too many periods and/or games off, which is completely unacceptable. He also will bring the highest possible return (top pair D or top center/Prospect). Trade him out west so you only see him a couple of times a year. The bottom line is that the Rangers are not winning a cup in the next 2-3 years, so they need top prospects or top 5 pick so you have top young talent in 2-3 years. That young talent is also cheaper which helps with the cap and may allow a decent FA signing in 2-3 years. If you keep Stall and Girardi 1-2 more years, the buyout is much cheaper. Trading Stephan and Kreider also allow you the ability to protect Linbergh & Fast and maybe Grabner. The key is to plan to win a Cup, not just compete in a round or two in the playoffs so you need to have a longer term plan. Three years from now, you will have a new core that is much younger with the Top 1C and top pair D you add with theses trades plus McD, Skeiji, Vesey, Miller, Buch, Zbad, Lindbergh, Fast, Hayes(?), Smith(?), 2017 1st round pick(?). I would rather go through 2-3 painful years with a better chance at a Cup than the same old, same old, building toward PO revenue rather than the ultimate prize. Interested to hear everyones thoughts as many of you have much better insight than I do.
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Rough shift for Perry on OT winner …Preds look like better team so far
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No to trade of Kreider Miller or Hayes ..Stephan would be better move and free up cap room
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Good idea trade Kreider to Anaheim what could possibly go wrong!
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Don’t trade Kreider. Find him a mentor. And a center.
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Friday night 6:00 starts are brutal out here. Most of thre seats were filled last night, but not until after the first period because people were sitting around in their cars 5 miles from the place not able to get there. Look……….you guys complain about the crap atmosphere at MSG these days……..it is never good out here. San Jose…now that’s a crowd and fun building. Everywhere else in CA……..weak. The only place I have been that is worse is Phoenix.
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I would imagine that one Gorton’s 1st orders of business would be to sign RFA Zibanijad. Fast and Lindberg as well.
How much do each of them get?
How many years?
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Based upon this year’s playoffs, you could make the argument that Lundqvist can’t play every playoff game anymore. Maybe he takes every 3rd or 4th game off. I know it’s an unorthodox approach and the temptation would be to continue to put him back out there after a win, but I think he’s just better with an extra day’s rest.
If Raanta goes to Vegas, backup goalie becomes major priority for Gorton.
Is the Russian kid ready to come over? Will he come over at all?
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Kreider winds up in Pittsburgh.
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AV must be going to the movies ’cause he’s picking his seat.
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I just rented “Raanta goes to Vegas” and really enjoyed it although Jim Carrey was miscast as the wacky Auntie
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Hey. You know, I do kinda wonder what fake breast feel like.
Well, I know what they feel like.
You? How do you know?
Well, I lived in Los Angeles for three months.
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I saw Salman Rushdie at the health club.
I saw Joe DiMaggio at Dinky Donuts.
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and he dunks….
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..you know that Kim Novaks has large breasts….
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I hear that’s how she died.
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nevertheless…
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our NYR scouts are already on the road looking at potential draft picks
https://www.wired.com/2013/11/walmart-parking-lots/?viewall=true#slide-x
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Jerry, are you blind? He’s a writer. He said his name was Sal Bass. Bass, Jerry! Instead of salmon, he went with bass! He just substituted one fish for another!
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I’m putting together a cabinet from IKEA…unlike the Rangers coaching staff it comes with clear well thought out directions.
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What do Derek Stepan and International Falls MN have in common?
They’re both minus 25 by November.
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What’s the difference between an English cigarette machine and the New York Rangers?
The machine has Player’s
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Am I the only one who’s completely baffled by the hype machine surround Erik Karlsson? Superstar for sure, but they’re starting to talk about him like he’s the second coming of Orr. And about how he’s been dominating the playoffs like no other player for years. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he was pretty good against us, but it wasn’t like we were sitting around freaking out that we didn’t have an answer for the magic of Erik Karlsson. Yes he’s playing injured, yes he’s putting up points, but I didn’t see a freakishly-dominant generational talent out there. Honestly I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
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I would not trade Miller. I could be convinced to trade THE Kreider if the return is huge. Anaheim needs forwards. They are stacked on D, and have a couple in the AHL that have not played in the NHL yet that will. I am fine with trading Stepan excepting that I will have to trash the Stepan jersey I have. I would love to see the Rangers get Matt Duchene…….there would be your #1 center. I bet Duchene ends up in Montreal.
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I’d be more inclined to trade Hayes than miller or kreider. Ideally, you get a 1C (let’s say duchene). You slot zpack at 2, lindberg at 3, then get a true 4C that can win draws (Nate Thompson type).
Miller, kreider, sideshow bob, Vessy, Nash (if still here), Hayes (if still here) are your top 9 wingers.
Other option is still with 1C acquisition, zpack 2, add a guy like Hanzal as a 3, use lindberg. As 4. This scenario would imo require the moving of Nash due to hanzal $$$$.
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sideshow bob 🙂
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Seinfeld ❤
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You love it.
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Danny G said, and I’m paraphrasing here… even though this group haven’t got the job done all these years, he still thinks that these guys are the right guys to get the job done.
Hhhmmmm…. puff-puff give, Danny!
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That was my point Carp! Kreider to Anaheim he will end up in Pittsburgh!
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And he’ll be better than Guentzel if he plays with Sid.
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some good memories of boogaard
look at how different burns looked about 2 1/2 min in
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Is Salman Rushdie related to SalmonJoe?
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President Trump: “Pittsburgh will pay, folks. Oh boy, are they going to pay.”
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Just listened to Cerney’s Blueshirt Radio podcast. He does a great job.
Dan Rosen was on and he repeated an option Zipay had considered which was Kreider for Justin Faulk.
It sounds like Faulk is better defensively than Shattenkirk.
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I was at the game when Boogaard scored his only goal as a Ranger. It was great to witness. Garden almost blew up from excitment.
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Cerny’s awesome, and Dan Rosen’s very good too.
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Rod > Cerny and Rosen.
Remember Rod?
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If there wasn’t a cap all of these guys are the right guys to do it. Can be contributors. G and staal would get praise as getting older but still being solid contributors as 4-7 guys. Stepan is still a top-notch 2nd line center. (My ASSumptive theory on stepan. He puts a lot of time and energy (rightfully so) into his wife and kid(s) when he’s away from the rink.) step needs to start training Gary suter style. he should really train his legs for power and quickness. If he can get quicker through training/skating sessions, he’ll regain his edge. Crossroads for step.
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But there is a cap. So…
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So it is……
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Turned on the Canada-Switzerland IIHF game and saw our man Rafael Diaz playing for Switzerland. 2-2 game with 4:00 to go.
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Is this IIHF WC being held in the Barclay’s Center? Scout 12,000 people and a car in the corner.
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Duguay is pretty
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Am I the only one that can’t stomach the idea of watching pit/otw?
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Beezle
that’s why i’m watching Crimson Tide. Will watch some of these series but not early games in entirety.
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Very hard to watch. Can’t stand either team
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That fuk face Pageau scores again.
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So long as the Ducks or Preds win the cup, it matters not. Strangely enough, as much as I hate the pens, and I HATE the pens, I’m rooting against ah-2-Wah
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I’d rather Ottawa wins than Pens repeat.
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Where were all these penalties against our sexy boys? 4PP for the pens in the first period. None against. Total reversal in the calls for and against the Sens.
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Step will never get faster, only slower.
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President Trump: “As of now, I’m removing Ottawa from the tournament.”
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Anderson putting on a show. Good for him. He’s one of those guys who doesn’t get a lot of respect. Hope he leads them to the SCF (guessing Karlsson might have a bit to do with that too…)!
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That’s a goal
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So if Ottawa wins the cup, would the loss to them be less painfull knowing we lost to a cup winner?
And would it also mean that Ottawa wasn’t the inferior team and the Rangers really do suck?
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Rangers suck regardless of Ottawa. Although not as bad as Montreal sucks.
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Ottawa gets rooked out of a goal. Plays prevent defense and gets burned. If they now lose in OT, I would suspect them of being the Rangers in disguise.
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Otto Wah wins.
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What’s really going on, I mean automatic overtime winners?
Sweep
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Yay!
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Fock Crosby
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Ottawa did get jobbed on that goal, but they won in OT.
It still hurts, but the Rangers wouldn’t have won that game.
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The assumption that the Rangers couldn’t beat the Pens makes the loss to the Sens more palatable. If the Sens somehow beat Pittsburgh it makes the Rangers losing to them much more painful since we can begin to think there was a path to the Cup and they just blew it. That hurts a lot more.
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I have no problem with the sens winning the cup, or ducks. Preds would be ok. Pens meh. Rangers would be ideal.
As long as it isn’t the flyers, isles, lightning, or devils…im ok.
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I’m watching every game of both series and the finals regardless of who is playing. It’s still hockey.
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Good morning Boneheads! My sentiments exactly Wick! But the pens will still probably win the cup ugh!
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I know Ottawa can’t win these games but if only Pissburgh would lose 3 more games…ANY TEAM LEFT BUT PISSBURGH
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http://nypost.com/2017/05/13/the-capitals-have-tried-everything-except-trading-ovechkin/
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If the Caps don’t want to trade Ovi, maybe they trade the former-Geico Backstrom.
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US vs Slovakia on nhl network presently.
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Nash for Ovie. Heartbeat
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*(In a)
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I bet the Pitt bloggers are torching, oh lee mah ta for having the best seat in the house on the overtime winner. Buy him out they say!
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Stepan for Backstrom ( same message)
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But OV doesn’t play PK.
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Staal for oh lee mah ta. (I just scored a Hat trick!)
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you slapped my brother around in public?
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Do you know who I am?
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Am I who you do know?
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You slopped broth on my brother’s pubic hair?
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Who I am? Or who am I? Who am I is a question for the ages everyone wants to know who am I who’s in there who wants to come out and say hey! I’m hungry. Who I am, is too deep. Too prof you gotta go in there and yank out the thing like in the movie where the thing jumped out of the guys stomach and ate up all the people on the freakin space ship May they Rest In Peace…
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I’m Moe Greene
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It isn’t easy being Greene
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You don’t buy me out. I buy you out.
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I want Paul Vitti bought out, I want him bought out, I want his family bought out
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Oh, Paulie, you won’t be seeing him no more.
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Don’t FAX me; I’ll FAX you.
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Kevin Hayes got player of the game for the US in their 6-1 win over Slovakia. Saw Skjei out there as well. I only caught the last 3 minutes so didn’t see much of it.
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Did Hayes write a new promise in The Players Tribune for the World Championships?
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Hayes tallies four in Dorchester Beer League.
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Ha ha. Not sure Carp, but I heard he lost 20 lb.s last summer.
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Hayes loses 20 pounds during visit to London.
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Pull over. I gotta take a leak
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It was Barzini
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Alright. This one time I’ll let you ask me about my business.
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Make sure he’s reliable. I don’t him comin outta there with just his “stick” in his hand.
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Best veal in the city
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I’ve frisked a thousand young punks.
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It’s not personal Sonny, it’s business.
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Stepan would have made a terrific Capo.
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Capo my Strat Step!
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Aw man, if I knew we were “doing lines” I never would have left.
…That little stunt you pulled with my sister, you think that was going to fool a corleone…
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Haze – “dear diary. I just wanted to say hello. My goal, now and forever, will be to probably really try to do my best. Bye for now
Kev”
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C’mon Carlo. You wanna drink? Get him a drink.
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Monday Tuesday Thursday Wednesday Friday Sunday Saturday.
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You can start by acting like a MAN!!!
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Wow Hayes. Nice game… The miniature goalie for Denmark is having quite the game against the Swedes. Hank can’t escape the curse of the backup goalies no matter who he plays for..
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I’m German-Irish
Well, my Kraut-mick friend…..
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I didn’t ask who gave the order because it had nothing to do with business
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Wow. Hank got steamrolled. Hit in the head but no call. Strange. NHL would have pulled him for the protocol and rightfully so. Meanwhile Lindberg is loving playing with Nylander and Backstrom!
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Maybe ther Rangers should spend the farm on getting Johnny Hockey. Hayes plays well with him……..which brings up another interesting point. Hayes did not contribute much playing with Fast and Grabner. Not exactly Stamkos and Gaudreau on his wings.
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And to show you I’m not all dollars and cents……she was beautiful, she was gorgeous, she was the greatest piece of azz I’ve ever had and I’ve had ’em all.
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Stepan for any player with a pulse.
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Stepan for Clemenza.
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In the good old days, you got knocked out of the playoffs any sport, you got a job in a shoe store and you were happy to have it.
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Stepan for Jooris. 🙂
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‘Hi, Yogi.’
“Grab a chair. Let me guess. You look like about a ten and a half D.’
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Jooris Prudence
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And the dog stays too!
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IMHO the forwards to trade are Stepan, Nash, and Zucc not winning a cup with them or without them. Just don’t believe on giving up on the young core yet. Desperately need blueline help.
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Dear prudence, won’t you come out to play.
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Stepan sux
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Stepan to Switzerland for Gerbe.
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*NEW POST*
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