Amanda Borges: “Everyone has been amazingly amazing from my awesome parents to my awesome old friends to my awesome new friends and the awesome people I haven’t even met yet. Awesomely amazing, just awesome!”
Bad game for Skjei and Hayes. Really bad penalty on Hayes just now. Brady made a rookie mistake leading to a 2 on 1 goal for the Finns. And the Hayes penalty in his offensive zone …. woof.
Wow. USA tire fire – another horrible penalty. I really thought they would make it to the finals. Ah well. Time to root for Sweden. Here’s hoping Hank and Oscar have a better showing than their teammates today.
That dedication that he demonstrated in the offseason and at the beginning of this season apparently wore off. He is still a good player, I want on this team, but he gives glimpses of potential, then it disappears.
Saw your protected list Carp, and while I don’t want to lose any if the four ( I’m hoping for Fast)you felt were likely to get picked, I don’t think any of them are a great loss. If I’m Vegas, it’s a no brainer, you take Lindberg. He has the most upside, and plays center.
With Vegas, depends so much on what other teams are putting out there and they can also cut deals prior to trade back for picks or whatever. Point is…no point.
Carp, what is the basis for teams protecting players with no-trade clauses? Is that in the CBA or is it a league directive to make more valuable players available to Vegas based on entry fee. Wondering if compensation not coming back to original team would make this a trade in the first place..thx
Love the Hayes hate. Meanwhile everybody favorite player, this season went 20 games without a goal, and scored two against a goalie over 30. Not a peep though.
Hayes is an asset. If they didn’t want him they could deal him and get a good return. … I don’t think Gorton will trade him for good riddance because he had a poor playoff. He’s not an angry fan.
Hayes is a coach killer. You see all that potential and expect him to do more than he does. So, you put him out there in critical situations and he does nothing. There has to come a time to realize that he’s not going to do more.
Yooooo!! Big fan here. Huge! I love these guys! But we gotta be real for a sec. They failed us. So what do we do with the goalie controversy. It’s gonna be a problem. One gets paid a lot. The other performs a lot.
CCCP!! Howsabowt. Eli Manning to the rangers. Hahahaha. Yo that’s some funny stuff there. I don’t care who you are. Hahaha. You get it? Eli also plays for a team with a blue jersey. And Eli wins it all. Not like Junk Goalie!
So Nash only has a partial ntc correct? But he still has to be protected correct? And if it’s only a partial ntc, can’t you trade him before the expansion draft?
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I protect lindberg waaaaay before I protect grabner or fast.
Wicky- Since I’m the only one awake at this hour, allow me to answer your Nash questions.
I don’t know, I don’t know and finally… I don’t know. You’re welcome! : )
Wicky – Nash has a modified NTC (he submits a 12 team list) and an NMC. If we trade him before the lists are submitted we can use his slot to protect someone else.
In terms of protection, if we lose one of Grabby, Lindberg, Fast, Auntie, Klein or Holden is anyone really going to jump off the ledge?
Good morning, boneheads!
Wicky, read UK’s post. NTCs do not have to be protected from expansion, only NMCs
Subpar game by Rinne last night. 2-2 after 4.
Does anyone really want to see Ottawa playing SCF? Yuck.
Great tip by Subban in OT-into his own net. Like Karlson’s goal in Game 1 against the Rangers. At least no one is saying Perry did it on purpose. P.K. had a tough night. Again NBCSN studio bozos are front runners and killed off the Ducks after they gave up the lead.
A bit unfair that teams have to protect NMC players, considering they just found out about the expansion draft rules last season. But, also would be unfair to have teams’ NMCs exempt.
That said, I’d make every effort to try to retain Lindberg. Cheap, controllable players with upside potential have a lot of value, and he elevated his game in the playoffs.
Thanks for the Nash info, but I’m still confused. So he has both a ntc and a nmc? The ntc is a partial though, so he can be traded wherever as long as it meets the list criteria?
Optimus has lost his spark, i don’t see Vegas taking him…but he’s available, but we all know the choice for McPhee is a good goalie with some #1 potential, a 4C who has the potential to player higher up the lineup, a speedy checker who has shown an eye for the net this year (but is probably a freak year) or a hardworking 3rd/4th line wing.
For me Lindberg shows the most potential to be taken, but Grabby’s goals may tempt LV to take a gamble
Fleury deserves the start tonight. Outside game 6 vs caps been great. Pens turning to Murray tonight though. Can’t tell me 40 I’m in garbage time after month off he’s better choice
I expect that the man in the know, CARP cannot comment, but I have been wondering exactly why Neil Smith is banned from any recognition at MSG. Initially, I figured that it was because Sather has been such a colossal failure that he dd not want his predecessor, who actually WON something to place a spotlight on his failure. But I read something about an article that I recall reading many years ago where Smith stated that the signing of all thise useless free agents (Kamensky, Keane, Skrudland, et al) came from James Dolan, who wanted to make a splash as the new owner and that Smith actually wanted to start a rebuild. THAT is probably the reason he has not been invited back. Ask Charles Oakley or the “criminal” Knicks fan who had his season tickets yanked about that.
Why would Vegas take Grabner? He is a UFA after next season. Unless they pick him just to trade him, he does not help there future. Lindberg, or Fast make way more sense for them.
because he can be traded at the deadline and bring a lot more than Lindberg or Fast could. I hope they stay far away from him but i fear the worst and they would take him.
Wow. Sullivan pulling Fleury after 1 bad outing is a panic move imo. Fleury has been stellar and Murray has been on the bench for weeks. Can’t imagine this sits well with the vets in the room but what do I know. Fleury deserves better… All that being said, I hate Pittsburgh and hope they get blown out again. Let’s go Sens!
TYM, I can’t really talk about it while, you know, working for MSGN … but suffice it to say Smith said some pretty bad personal stuff about the owner long after he was fired. Childish stuff on both sides, though.
I don’t see any way Vegas takes Grabner. I think it will be Fast, Lindberg or Raanta. Unless the Rangers make other moves and free up spots to protect Lindberg and/or Fast.
AV may protect Fast but Gorton better be sober enough to realize the Lindberg Baby has the most value.
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Agree taking Grabber to trade him would probably be the most value they could get. One year deal at $1.65M is a steal if he scores half as many goals with his D and PK play.
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Fast is the most replaceable of that lot. Jeez Louise, it’s like the love affair with Blair Betts all over again.
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If Kessler were a pedestrian, he would be in jail. I like, no love, tough PO hockey but he is dirty and the refs don’t give a rats behind.
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Feels like hockey, only 94 today…
Alex,
Vegas would not be taking Lindberg or Fast to trade them. They are both young enough that Vegas could get 500 games out of them. Grabner is not getting them that.
Carp,
This is not my typical anti Fast rant. Fast over Lindberg is just silly. Lindberg plays a more valuable position in center, and has a lot more upside to his game. Fast is what Fast is going to be.
depends on what Vegas gets from the other teams. They will balance forwards and centers as well as the rest of the lineup. I think you’re over valuing what Lindberg as a 4th liner means.
Alex,
I think you are overvaluing Grabner. Especially for Vegas. I don’t think Lindberg ceiling is that of a 4th center.its Certainly not on an expansion team.
I get it Carp. I do remember reading that article. If he went further, that is his mistake for sure. I recall it as being that he was directed to re-tool, not rebuild by his bosses. I think it is a shame. Your comment about Oakley coming back before Smith spoke volumes.
Smith was told to rebuild, then they decided they could go out an spend money as a “bridge” to help them compete during the rebuild … hence. Fleury, Kaminsky, Taylor, Lefebvre and Quintal (am I forgetting somebody?) … that crapped out…
I get the old “he scores he’s great, he doesn’t score he sucks” thing but I’m pretty confident the front office, coach and teammates think Fast is a better player than Lindberg. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Vegas took Fast over Lindberg if they were both available.
I think Fast is the better defensively responsible player and Lindberg has some offensive upside. I don’t think it’ll be disastrous if either gets taken.
SN – Re: Kesler. I wondered why AV didn’t pull some strings to get him when he was available. Seems he’s just the type of center the Rangers need.
tomb – I think Pitt comes back tonight with a good game. They recovered from that disastrous game 6 against Washington. They can do it again against Ottawa. I’m not rooting for either team. I hate the way NBCSN fawns all over Crosby, but I’m thinking a Nashville/Ottawa final will be a snoozer.
Kesler hated AV in Vancouver. When he was a FA he was asked about NY. He said there was no way he would go there. You can imagine AV being irritated at Kesler for playing too much of a physical game.
Per Eklund! 😉
On Galcheynuk for Stepan +
That’s the rumor…the Habs want JT Miller somehow in the deal I am told…situation is very fluid, but talks are VERY strong.
My neighbor down the road is a huge Isles fan.
(Strange that I live in South Carolina and there are so many hockey fans lately!)
He told me today the rumbling going around is Tavares wants to stay with the Isles and will be getting a long term (8-10 year deal) worth over 80 million…
Rangers are at least 2-3 years away from competing for Cup as they need D help and top 6 talent. They should trade Stephan & Hayes before expansion draft for top prospects/draft picks that can help a couple years down the road. That will allow you to protect Fast and Lindberg. Stephan has to be traded before his NMC kicks in, as his talent is diminishing quickly and you don’t want to be stuck with him as he declines further. You also get cap relief which they need. Hayes still has value which will only diminish if he continues to play the way he has over last two seasons. Trade him while you can still get a decent return.
I believe I said yesterday the Sens are toast with Murray in goal. I can’t stand the pens they male me sick. The thought of the that scum franchise raising the cup again is beyond depressing!
Watched the 2nd period of the memorial cup game the Sean Day played in. Wow can he go. Doesn’t play much D, but man can be skate, and he is great with the puck. His game reminded me of Paul Coffey game.
I think Murray stays in now because of Fleury’s history of dropping stink bombs in the playoffs. They can’t risk another game 3 first period. Their margin is too small now. 3-3 after six? Pens also got some offense for a change even if it took a deflection off a Sen to get them to three. They also lost another D last night. If this happened to the Rangers Ryan Graves and Chris Summers would have been playing in the playoffs. Sully has kept them together defensively by all five players on the ice making a defensive effort. It may have also inhibited their offensive output though.
This place may be dead but I’m alive and well! I hate to say it, but as long as Crosby is on the the ice and Murray in net pens still win the cup. It just adds to my frustration as a Ranger fan. The song remains the same, will it ever change? If only Sam had said “This one will last the whole year.”
Consensus: Day can skate, shoot, likes the O-zone, weak in the D-zone, a puck-watcher and passive with opposition in front of the net. Granted, he’s only a kid, but this defensive stuff sounds to me too aggravatingly familiar.
Hank hurt making a save at the end of the game today. Apparently required “emergency treatment on a body part” whatever that means. Here’s hoping it’s not serious and he can go for the gold tomorrow.
The Sean Day review sounds like another reason not to sign Shattenkirk. Are you going to give someone 7 X 7 with a NMC who pretty much sounds the same? Granted he has demonstrated it t the NHL level.
“Crosscheck – would like Kesler on my team. Rumor was he didn’t see eye to eye with Vino”
Oh, didn’t know that. I guess that answers that question. Kesler is getting away with mayhem in this series. When you look at the Rangers centers and the way they play and Kesler, well, Kesler’s game is more suited for the playoffs because he gets away with murder.
If Sean Day is a really good offensive player and not so good at defense then why is he a defenseman? Should he be a winger or something?
Saw Hank’s stats in the tourney that they posted while watching last night’s game. 4-0, GAA about 1.75. Hmmmm. Of course he isn’t going up against BGB every night either. {s}
Getzlaf, you naughty boy. That’ll be 10 grand. Now go out there and maim somebody!
Good morning, boneheads!
The way this year’s playoffs are unfolding, by the time they play the Final, third liners will play 1st line minutes, and the rest will be AHL fillers. Talk about war of attrition.
The Senators seem to be the healthiest of the bunch.
I just want to say I really don’t like Nashville. No love for their opponent but no hate either. Will be a very difficult cup final to watch if its Nash vs Otw/Pit
Why haven’t we moved Nash and Step yet? And MSG is not middle earth, time to dangle that Hobbit too. At least find out wtf they are all worth
. . . but probably not. The latter half of June and July 1st should be really interesting.
Let’s hope that Gorton stays out in front of it. As the dominoes start to fall, there won’t be a lot of time to sit on the sidelines. When the music stops, you don’t want to be left without a chair. (Too many analogies/metaphors?)
Disclaimer….I have been to 2 of these Ducks-Preds games in Anaheim. I think that the Nashville story is interesting and they have a terrific back line. They are also well-coached. But there are some issues for me too with them. #1. While Anaheim is a nasty/dirty team, Nashville are no angels. 1. Filip Forsberg graduated from being a moel in Game 2 to a dentist last night with no calls. James Neal is still the dirty bastard he as always been. 2. These Preds appear to be studying Tomas Plekanec on video with success. They constantly throw their heads back or act like they were sticked in the face when they weren’t. 3. Fans. While the support is good and the anthem singers are cool, they are addicted to the “you suck” stuff. Constantly. Their performance on social media proves that are quite mostly novices at hockey spectating. And, of course, the officiating continues to be a joke in both series. However, Gary Bettman is proud of all of the refs, so no worries there. I guess the good thing about Anaheim not making the finals is that I won’t have to endure the invasion of Penguin fan in Anaheim, which will REALLY irritate me.
Nice one St Pete.
TYM: My understanding is that it is open hunting season on icebirds in California this time of year; I’m sure you could bag a few hundred and make the east coast a better place
ANaheim mailed that game in like the Rangers mailed in game 6 against Ottawa. So the Rangers areen’t the only team to fail to show up for an important game. I was surprised.
Anyone see the “slash” that Mark Stone was called for in the first period against the pens? Holy crap, what a horrific call that was. In the playoffs? Really?
EV–I saw Manson take a stick directly to the mouth, then Rinne play the pick in the corner, both right in front of the refs, both not called last night. NHL officiating is incompetent.
Congrats Hank on the well-deserved win. I always like watching team Sweden, cause they always seem to genuinely like and enjoy playing with each other.
Watching the memorial cup. Sean Day sure can skate. Just went end to end and nearly scored. Ryan Gropp, has not done much but Seattle is outclassed by Windsor.
Watched Day, and Gropp play yesterday. Day was very noticeable, Gropp no so much. In Gropps defense, he was playing a lot with Barzel. As great a skater and stick handler as Barzel is, he does not move the puck. Lots of skating around with the puck, and the occasional wish pass. Trying to keep my opinion on what I am seeing in Day realistic, but it is very hard. He looks to be special.
BDL, I think it was a very good move by NY. He was projected to be top 10, or even 5. He was granted the exceptional status at 15 4th time in history ( Tavares, Ekblad, and McDavid being other 3) because of his physical ability, skating, and skills. But then he had some serious family issues which contributed to his weight gain, etc. Taking him it the third round is low risk, and potentially high reward move.
Rangers Report 2.0 
When there is a NEW POST, please type NEW POST on the old post thread, you lazy frog!
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Nonsense abounds, but the song remains the same! One cup 77 years, when will it change certainly not under this regime!
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Amanda Borges: “Everyone has been amazingly amazing from my awesome parents to my awesome old friends to my awesome new friends and the awesome people I haven’t even met yet. Awesomely amazing, just awesome!”
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Pens injuries and Crosby don’t look right. We blew the chance of a lifetime.
Any truth to rumor rangers and habs discussing Alex galchenuk trade
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You guys realize before Hayes 2 goals vs Russia at worlds on Tuesday he went 24 games without a goal dating back to March 12th. Inexplicable
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Amazing that the Rangers blew it against Ottawa when Pittsburgh was beatable. Then again, this is the norm for them for decades, excluding 1994.
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If Montreal ever sent Gallagher to us it would probably be the one with the giant mallet
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just an awful game by brady skeji today. turnover leads to fins 2nd goal. 2-0 under 12 to go
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who is that coach who had Skjei out there in the third period? AV didnt tell him.
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Bad game for Skjei and Hayes. Really bad penalty on Hayes just now. Brady made a rookie mistake leading to a 2 on 1 goal for the Finns. And the Hayes penalty in his offensive zone …. woof.
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hayes 3 penalties. his woes continue
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the more I watch of trouba the more I want him
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Skjei it was kind of bad luck, partly inexperience. Hayes plays were just lazy and stupid. Not a good sign.
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Wow. USA tire fire – another horrible penalty. I really thought they would make it to the finals. Ah well. Time to root for Sweden. Here’s hoping Hank and Oscar have a better showing than their teammates today.
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Trouba to the Rangers not happening.
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Big saves by the Finnish goalie at the end of the game. No jump or jam for US. Bad timing for a subpar game…
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Was Haze trying hard? he said he would….
Hadn’t scored since March whatever?
Inconceivable!
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Haze earned his nickname again today.
That dedication that he demonstrated in the offseason and at the beginning of this season apparently wore off. He is still a good player, I want on this team, but he gives glimpses of potential, then it disappears.
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We’re vibin’ SN. When I got to the bottom of the page, I was going to look for the same picture. You saved me the trouble. Thank you.
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Saw your protected list Carp, and while I don’t want to lose any if the four ( I’m hoping for Fast)you felt were likely to get picked, I don’t think any of them are a great loss. If I’m Vegas, it’s a no brainer, you take Lindberg. He has the most upside, and plays center.
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With Vegas, depends so much on what other teams are putting out there and they can also cut deals prior to trade back for picks or whatever. Point is…no point.
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Oh great. Hank just got scored on by his own defenseman. #everythingoldisnewagain
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Carp, what is the basis for teams protecting players with no-trade clauses? Is that in the CBA or is it a league directive to make more valuable players available to Vegas based on entry fee. Wondering if compensation not coming back to original team would make this a trade in the first place..thx
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“You guys realize before Hayes 2 goals vs Russia at worlds on Tuesday he went 24 games without a goal dating back to March 12th”
That was also the date when he took his last shot on goal instead of passing to a teammate that is covered by two defensemen.
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Carp – I’m glad that I’m not the only one that sees it this way.
– ” I don’t think I can recall a playoff season where cross-checking was so popular and so unpenalized.”
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Fuyk Haces
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Hayes Miller Kreider for schieffle, wheeler trouba. Lol
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Love the Hayes hate. Meanwhile everybody favorite player, this season went 20 games without a goal, and scored two against a goalie over 30. Not a peep though.
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Peep
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Hate the Hayes Love. Pound for pound and inch for inch a softer player then Stepsoft
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If I was the GM I wouldn’t protect Hayes. If Vegas wants him, fine.
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Hayes didn’t have great playofs but was not alone…. no time to bail on 25 year old former first round centers
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What is the compensation to a team for parting with a roster player like Lindbergh ?
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Trade/Expose Stepan, sign Thornton as one year stopgap, give all the money to Tavares in 2018.. Where do they hand out GM applications?
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The team that parts with Lindberg gets Muenster, I think.
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But why does Swiss have all the holes when it’s the Munster that needs the ventilation?
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Hayes is an asset. If they didn’t want him they could deal him and get a good return. … I don’t think Gorton will trade him for good riddance because he had a poor playoff. He’s not an angry fan.
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1953 Yankee call-in show
“What are we gonna do about center field?”
“Center field? We have Mantle out there.”
“Mantle? He hasn’t showed me nothing.”
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Acestar
@acestarofficial
@grabs40 What brand of gum is AV always chewing?
Michael Grabner
@grabs40
Not sure never asked
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Hayes is a coach killer. You see all that potential and expect him to do more than he does. So, you put him out there in critical situations and he does nothing. There has to come a time to realize that he’s not going to do more.
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Taveres to Rangers would be delightful. Never in a million years would it happen
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Hayes is a regular season 2C and a post ASG 3C-. Never goes to the dirty areas; 6’5″ 225lb dancer.
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McDavid to Rangers would be delightful. Never in a million years would it happen
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Erik Karlsson to Rangers would be delightful. Never in a million years would it happen
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Auston Matthews to Rangers would be delightful. Never in a million years would it happen
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[fill in the blank] to Rangers would be delightful. Never in a million years would it happen
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Lol cccp
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But if they did end up here…
…They would surely suck
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Be happy just to hold on to Grabber
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Yooooo!! Big fan here. Huge! I love these guys! But we gotta be real for a sec. They failed us. So what do we do with the goalie controversy. It’s gonna be a problem. One gets paid a lot. The other performs a lot.
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CCCP!! Howsabowt. Eli Manning to the rangers. Hahahaha. Yo that’s some funny stuff there. I don’t care who you are. Hahaha. You get it? Eli also plays for a team with a blue jersey. And Eli wins it all. Not like Junk Goalie!
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So Nash only has a partial ntc correct? But he still has to be protected correct? And if it’s only a partial ntc, can’t you trade him before the expansion draft?
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I protect lindberg waaaaay before I protect grabner or fast.
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Nash spit the bit against At Ta wah
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Carp’s 6:39 assures Hayes will be traded this summer!
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Bring back Neil Smith!
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Vegas would be very dumb to not take Grabner. World class speed regardless of whether he duplicates his goal totals.
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Anaheim pulled a rangers at end of regulation. Now can they get it back in ot.
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Forsberg
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2-2 after 4.
and …
2-2 after 4.
How about JR and Keith Jones saying that Anaheim can’t recover from allowing that late goal. LOL. Watch playoffs much?
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Smith’s available, Papa. But I think my boss would bring back Charles Oakley before he brought back Smith.
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ducks regain home ice and now have momentum
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3-2 after five. Book it
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Where in holy hell is Miami Pimp?
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Home teams 38-38.
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Nice math, Papa.
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Used my fingers, Carp
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Just checked. most 2-2 series are 3-2 after 5.
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My fingers don’t lie
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Do teams do better 6 on 5 than 5 on 4 and if so why? Discuss.
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Damnit, answer my Nash questions!!!!!
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Wicky- Since I’m the only one awake at this hour, allow me to answer your Nash questions.
I don’t know, I don’t know and finally… I don’t know. You’re welcome! : )
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Wicky – Nash has a modified NTC (he submits a 12 team list) and an NMC. If we trade him before the lists are submitted we can use his slot to protect someone else.
In terms of protection, if we lose one of Grabby, Lindberg, Fast, Auntie, Klein or Holden is anyone really going to jump off the ledge?
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Good morning Boneheads! I believe the ledge for Ranger fans is similar to Groundhog day. Even if we jump it will happen again, and again, and again!
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Until we win the cup!
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Let’s get serious here. If a series is a bunch of games, are the many series serieses? And is one series really a serie?
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Nah to wife: “They modified my NTC.”
“Does that mean we can refinish the basement?”
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You kids seen this? Funny as hell!
http://www.bardown.com/people-are-convinced-karlsson-was-mocking-crosby-by-pretending-to-chat-with-teammates-1.755173
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Good morning, boneheads!
Wicky, read UK’s post. NTCs do not have to be protected from expansion, only NMCs
Subpar game by Rinne last night. 2-2 after 4.
Does anyone really want to see Ottawa playing SCF? Yuck.
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Karlsson did that and didnt get penalized? I’m surprised the video wasnt reviewed and Karlsson given a game misconduct!
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You all need the Yankees right now.
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I love the Yankees. Baseball is better than hockey.
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UK, I think cartwheels would be more appropriate if they lose DeKlein or Holden.
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Great tip by Subban in OT-into his own net. Like Karlson’s goal in Game 1 against the Rangers. At least no one is saying Perry did it on purpose. P.K. had a tough night. Again NBCSN studio bozos are front runners and killed off the Ducks after they gave up the lead.
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A bit unfair that teams have to protect NMC players, considering they just found out about the expansion draft rules last season. But, also would be unfair to have teams’ NMCs exempt.
That said, I’d make every effort to try to retain Lindberg. Cheap, controllable players with upside potential have a lot of value, and he elevated his game in the playoffs.
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The only guy I’d be pissed about losing is lindberg.
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Thanks for the Nash info, but I’m still confused. So he has both a ntc and a nmc? The ntc is a partial though, so he can be traded wherever as long as it meets the list criteria?
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Btw, Corey mother falking Perry!!!!!
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Ryan gropp for Seattle in memorial cup Sean day Windsor check it out
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Optimus has lost his spark, i don’t see Vegas taking him…but he’s available, but we all know the choice for McPhee is a good goalie with some #1 potential, a 4C who has the potential to player higher up the lineup, a speedy checker who has shown an eye for the net this year (but is probably a freak year) or a hardworking 3rd/4th line wing.
For me Lindberg shows the most potential to be taken, but Grabby’s goals may tempt LV to take a gamble
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I have to agree. The best choices for vegas off the Rangers roster are Raanta and Lindberg.
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Fleury deserves the start tonight. Outside game 6 vs caps been great. Pens turning to Murray tonight though. Can’t tell me 40 I’m in garbage time after month off he’s better choice
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Vegas would be really dumb to not take Grabner and his world class speed. I, for one, hope they’re dumb
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I expect that the man in the know, CARP cannot comment, but I have been wondering exactly why Neil Smith is banned from any recognition at MSG. Initially, I figured that it was because Sather has been such a colossal failure that he dd not want his predecessor, who actually WON something to place a spotlight on his failure. But I read something about an article that I recall reading many years ago where Smith stated that the signing of all thise useless free agents (Kamensky, Keane, Skrudland, et al) came from James Dolan, who wanted to make a splash as the new owner and that Smith actually wanted to start a rebuild. THAT is probably the reason he has not been invited back. Ask Charles Oakley or the “criminal” Knicks fan who had his season tickets yanked about that.
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CCCP – I saw that bit about Karlsson mocking Crosby. I thought it was hilarious.
That was even worse than ‘Sloppy Seconds”! I expect another suspension from the NHL.
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Why would Vegas take Grabner? He is a UFA after next season. Unless they pick him just to trade him, he does not help there future. Lindberg, or Fast make way more sense for them.
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I think Grabner is arguably the least likely candidate to be taken by an expansion team. Only has one year left until UFA.
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BDL
because he can be traded at the deadline and bring a lot more than Lindberg or Fast could. I hope they stay far away from him but i fear the worst and they would take him.
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At best Grabner would bring back a 2nd rounder.
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Nash to wife: “They modified my NMC.”
“Does that mean no more children?”
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Wow. Sullivan pulling Fleury after 1 bad outing is a panic move imo. Fleury has been stellar and Murray has been on the bench for weeks. Can’t imagine this sits well with the vets in the room but what do I know. Fleury deserves better… All that being said, I hate Pittsburgh and hope they get blown out again. Let’s go Sens!
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Murray looked good in relief. There is not really much difference between the two in goal.
Talking about players feelings is a distraction. They all want to win. Do they want to win less with a different goalie? No.
Both goalies will cry when Ottawa kicks their ass tonight.
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BDL
Grabner would bring more than that and certainly more than Fast or Lindberg would bring. For starters he would bring what Smith cost the Rangers.
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TYM, I can’t really talk about it while, you know, working for MSGN … but suffice it to say Smith said some pretty bad personal stuff about the owner long after he was fired. Childish stuff on both sides, though.
I don’t see any way Vegas takes Grabner. I think it will be Fast, Lindberg or Raanta. Unless the Rangers make other moves and free up spots to protect Lindberg and/or Fast.
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I’ll just add that I think AV and Gorton and Co. would protect Fast ahead of Lindberg.
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Carp
I hope you’re right and Vegas doesn’t take Grabner.
I don’t think they’ll take Fast with him having hip surgery this summer.
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AV may protect Fast but Gorton better be sober enough to realize the Lindberg Baby has the most value.
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Agree taking Grabber to trade him would probably be the most value they could get. One year deal at $1.65M is a steal if he scores half as many goals with his D and PK play.
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Fast is the most replaceable of that lot. Jeez Louise, it’s like the love affair with Blair Betts all over again.
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If Kessler were a pedestrian, he would be in jail. I like, no love, tough PO hockey but he is dirty and the refs don’t give a rats behind.
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Feels like hockey, only 94 today…
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Alex,
Vegas would not be taking Lindberg or Fast to trade them. They are both young enough that Vegas could get 500 games out of them. Grabner is not getting them that.
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Carp,
This is not my typical anti Fast rant. Fast over Lindberg is just silly. Lindberg plays a more valuable position in center, and has a lot more upside to his game. Fast is what Fast is going to be.
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BDL
the future assets that Vegas would get in a Grabner trade would far exceed the value Fast or Lindberg have.
I really hope Vegas is dumb and does not take Grabner and his world class speed.
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BDL
depends on what Vegas gets from the other teams. They will balance forwards and centers as well as the rest of the lineup. I think you’re over valuing what Lindberg as a 4th liner means.
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Alex,
I think you are overvaluing Grabner. Especially for Vegas. I don’t think Lindberg ceiling is that of a 4th center.its Certainly not on an expansion team.
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I get it Carp. I do remember reading that article. If he went further, that is his mistake for sure. I recall it as being that he was directed to re-tool, not rebuild by his bosses. I think it is a shame. Your comment about Oakley coming back before Smith spoke volumes.
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Smith was told to rebuild, then they decided they could go out an spend money as a “bridge” to help them compete during the rebuild … hence. Fleury, Kaminsky, Taylor, Lefebvre and Quintal (am I forgetting somebody?) … that crapped out…
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also, hence the Brendl-Lundmark draft. …
I get the old “he scores he’s great, he doesn’t score he sucks” thing but I’m pretty confident the front office, coach and teammates think Fast is a better player than Lindberg. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Vegas took Fast over Lindberg if they were both available.
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If we get someone in a trade for Fast and he then changes his name back to Fasth, would he be considered a player to be named later?
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I think Fast is the better defensively responsible player and Lindberg has some offensive upside. I don’t think it’ll be disastrous if either gets taken.
SN – Re: Kesler. I wondered why AV didn’t pull some strings to get him when he was available. Seems he’s just the type of center the Rangers need.
tomb – I think Pitt comes back tonight with a good game. They recovered from that disastrous game 6 against Washington. They can do it again against Ottawa. I’m not rooting for either team. I hate the way NBCSN fawns all over Crosby, but I’m thinking a Nashville/Ottawa final will be a snoozer.
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Kesler hated AV in Vancouver. When he was a FA he was asked about NY. He said there was no way he would go there. You can imagine AV being irritated at Kesler for playing too much of a physical game.
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Per Eklund! 😉
On Galcheynuk for Stepan +
That’s the rumor…the Habs want JT Miller somehow in the deal I am told…situation is very fluid, but talks are VERY strong.
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My neighbor down the road is a huge Isles fan.
(Strange that I live in South Carolina and there are so many hockey fans lately!)
He told me today the rumbling going around is Tavares wants to stay with the Isles and will be getting a long term (8-10 year deal) worth over 80 million…
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Isn’t Ecklund known as a rumor monger? He just throws crap at the wall and sees what sticks.
How would Stepan and Miller for Galchenyuk be an improvement?
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Cross Check -Yes and it wouldn’t.
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Were Mike Keane and LaFontaine part of that crew?
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Crosscheck – would like Kesler on my team. Rumor was he didn’t see eye to eye with Vino
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Ray Charles didn’t see eye to eye with Jose Feliciano. Feliz Navidad.
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Well I guess Sullivan knew what he is doing. Murray looks really strong. Damn…
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NEW POST.
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OLD POST.
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Great talk, guys!
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Let’s see if Sens have another miracle finish in them. Second goal was anther 3cushion shot.
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Rangers are at least 2-3 years away from competing for Cup as they need D help and top 6 talent. They should trade Stephan & Hayes before expansion draft for top prospects/draft picks that can help a couple years down the road. That will allow you to protect Fast and Lindberg. Stephan has to be traded before his NMC kicks in, as his talent is diminishing quickly and you don’t want to be stuck with him as he declines further. You also get cap relief which they need. Hayes still has value which will only diminish if he continues to play the way he has over last two seasons. Trade him while you can still get a decent return.
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I believe I said yesterday the Sens are toast with Murray in goal. I can’t stand the pens they male me sick. The thought of the that scum franchise raising the cup again is beyond depressing!
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Sorry make me sick!
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Hagelin post-game said Fleury is the best teammate he ever played with. And Mats Zuccarello died a little bit inside…
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2-2 after 4. … and 2-2 after 4.
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yeah, they’re not trading Stephan and Hayes for draft picks.
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I wouldn’t trade Miller straight up for Galchenyuk.
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Pageau.
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BGB another Friendly Ghost game, his ninth in the last 10.
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Trade Stepan! Keep Stephan, though. He’s okay.
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Watched the 2nd period of the memorial cup game the Sean Day played in. Wow can he go. Doesn’t play much D, but man can be skate, and he is great with the puck. His game reminded me of Paul Coffey game.
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Karlsson is a great player – but sorry, he is NOT Leetch..
Enough with the comparisons.
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http://www.bardown.com/a-fan-yelled-rangers-suck-as-lundqvist-got-his-award-at-worlds-and-his-reaction-was-priceless-1.757035
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This place is dead… and it still only May.
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CCCP That Lundqvist troll was hysterical. Perfect timing on the yell. I thought it was funny that Hank was the only one who laughed.
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I think Murray stays in now because of Fleury’s history of dropping stink bombs in the playoffs. They can’t risk another game 3 first period. Their margin is too small now. 3-3 after six? Pens also got some offense for a change even if it took a deflection off a Sen to get them to three. They also lost another D last night. If this happened to the Rangers Ryan Graves and Chris Summers would have been playing in the playoffs. Sully has kept them together defensively by all five players on the ice making a defensive effort. It may have also inhibited their offensive output though.
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This place may be dead but I’m alive and well! I hate to say it, but as long as Crosby is on the the ice and Murray in net pens still win the cup. It just adds to my frustration as a Ranger fan. The song remains the same, will it ever change? If only Sam had said “This one will last the whole year.”
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Consensus: Day can skate, shoot, likes the O-zone, weak in the D-zone, a puck-watcher and passive with opposition in front of the net. Granted, he’s only a kid, but this defensive stuff sounds to me too aggravatingly familiar.
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If Sean Day and Jason Day played 36 holes with Bobby Knight and Suge Knight, we would have a Day/Knight Doubleheader – twice.
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I’ll even be ok if Nazis somehow won the cup…. anybody but Crosby.
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Just wanted to share this little piece. #36 stopped his car and started chatting to a 12 yr old who was practicing his shot outside of his house in Oslo. Google translate 🙂
http://www.aftenposten.no/osloby/Edvin-12-sto-og-trente-pa-skudd-i-oppkjorselen-Da-stoppet-en-bil-i-gaten-621534b.html
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I think it says, don’t shot the puck, pass it.
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Behind the back blind pass Bdl!
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McKinnon ties it for Canada with 4:43 left.
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Good morning, boneheads!
Lol, BDL
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Ryan O’Reilly ties it with 3:02 left.
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Future Ranger Matt Duchene on the ice now.
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Whoops. O’Reilly with the go ahead goal.
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mika
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https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/the-end-of-season-messages-some-of-the-rangers-are-posting/231157096
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… but it was OK for Simmonds to use an inappropriate slur against Avery?
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You’re welcome?
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Hank hurt making a save at the end of the game today. Apparently required “emergency treatment on a body part” whatever that means. Here’s hoping it’s not serious and he can go for the gold tomorrow.
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Russian hockey is dead.
Can’t even beat a half assed Canadian team. I’m not rooting for them anymore.
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The Sean Day review sounds like another reason not to sign Shattenkirk. Are you going to give someone 7 X 7 with a NMC who pretty much sounds the same? Granted he has demonstrated it t the NHL level.
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I only saw one period, but I was very impressed with Day. Besides his skating abilities, his hockey instincts were through the roof.
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better hope he doesn’t show up for camp at 280 pounds.
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Forget the roof and start by taking someone out in front of the net.
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And another thing I never got around to saying: Billion dollar renovation, my ass.
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Cloud Computing wins Preakness 15 lengths behind Secretariat’s time.
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Hearing rumors Skjei to Minnesota for Coyle
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Skjei for Coyle? Probably not CCCP.
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Would love to see Coyle’s size and grit in MSG, but an alarmingly shaky D is not helped by Shay’s departure. Forget it.
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How about Stepan to Edmonton for Darnell Nurse?
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That’s practical if Nurse is properly registered, but we’d have to take critical care to operate with TLC.
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Rangers would be nuts to trade Skjei. I hope they make some changes that are meaningful.
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Stepan to Buffalo for Sam Reinhart?
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Brooks looking to trade Stepan for D help, and protect Lindberg.
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“Crosscheck – would like Kesler on my team. Rumor was he didn’t see eye to eye with Vino”
Oh, didn’t know that. I guess that answers that question. Kesler is getting away with mayhem in this series. When you look at the Rangers centers and the way they play and Kesler, well, Kesler’s game is more suited for the playoffs because he gets away with murder.
If Sean Day is a really good offensive player and not so good at defense then why is he a defenseman? Should he be a winger or something?
Saw Hank’s stats in the tourney that they posted while watching last night’s game. 4-0, GAA about 1.75. Hmmmm. Of course he isn’t going up against BGB every night either. {s}
Getzlaf, you naughty boy. That’ll be 10 grand. Now go out there and maim somebody!
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Good morning, boneheads!
The way this year’s playoffs are unfolding, by the time they play the Final, third liners will play 1st line minutes, and the rest will be AHL fillers. Talk about war of attrition.
The Senators seem to be the healthiest of the bunch.
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Saw that, BDL. Always knew he gets his best ideas from this place 😀
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Just realized how they named arena in Pittsburgh after a paint store. What’s next, New Jersey Techo-Bloc Pavers Arena?
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I just want to say I really don’t like Nashville. No love for their opponent but no hate either. Will be a very difficult cup final to watch if its Nash vs Otw/Pit
Why haven’t we moved Nash and Step yet? And MSG is not middle earth, time to dangle that Hobbit too. At least find out wtf they are all worth
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Beezle,
Shhhh, you will wake the Zucc fans.
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Maybe Step will be traded to Nashville or Anaheim.
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. . . but probably not. The latter half of June and July 1st should be really interesting.
Let’s hope that Gorton stays out in front of it. As the dominoes start to fall, there won’t be a lot of time to sit on the sidelines. When the music stops, you don’t want to be left without a chair. (Too many analogies/metaphors?)
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Sonny left without a Cher.
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Sonny at the toll booth.
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Rangers could wind up without a Couch.
3-3 after 6.
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#21 goes. Step in the right direction. Literally and figuratively, as it were.
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I’ve got a lot of fear and loathing about who’s going to Vegas.
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How come Oscar Lindberg isn’t exempt from the expansion draft even though he’s a second-year player? Riddle me that.
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Frequent flier miles
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fourth year pro, Ev.
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Isn’t Brady Skjei a 3rd year pro then?
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“Coverage to begin shortly”…
Gold game was supposed to start at 2pm…still nothing
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nope. two years pro
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pull my finger…
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GO SWEDEN! 1-0!
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it’s a better game than the one in pitt.
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Disclaimer….I have been to 2 of these Ducks-Preds games in Anaheim. I think that the Nashville story is interesting and they have a terrific back line. They are also well-coached. But there are some issues for me too with them. #1. While Anaheim is a nasty/dirty team, Nashville are no angels. 1. Filip Forsberg graduated from being a moel in Game 2 to a dentist last night with no calls. James Neal is still the dirty bastard he as always been. 2. These Preds appear to be studying Tomas Plekanec on video with success. They constantly throw their heads back or act like they were sticked in the face when they weren’t. 3. Fans. While the support is good and the anthem singers are cool, they are addicted to the “you suck” stuff. Constantly. Their performance on social media proves that are quite mostly novices at hockey spectating. And, of course, the officiating continues to be a joke in both series. However, Gary Bettman is proud of all of the refs, so no worries there. I guess the good thing about Anaheim not making the finals is that I won’t have to endure the invasion of Penguin fan in Anaheim, which will REALLY irritate me.
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Carp we may lose a couch, but not to worry, we still have a few Lazy Boys on D!
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Nice one St Pete.
TYM: My understanding is that it is open hunting season on icebirds in California this time of year; I’m sure you could bag a few hundred and make the east coast a better place
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ANaheim mailed that game in like the Rangers mailed in game 6 against Ottawa. So the Rangers areen’t the only team to fail to show up for an important game. I was surprised.
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Shootout for the gold
come on Henrik
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It’s Henrik time.
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Can’t believe we lost to that Ottawa team. Hope the Rangers are THOROUGHLY embarrassed.
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Anyone see the “slash” that Mark Stone was called for in the first period against the pens? Holy crap, what a horrific call that was. In the playoffs? Really?
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The king….Is king!
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Amazing what Henrik can do with competent defensemen in front of him.
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Congrats Hanka Hanka! Good for him! Something to feel good aboot for the King!
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Ah… the series is tied. Icebirds still need two more. Wouldn’t annoint them quite yet
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EV–I saw Manson take a stick directly to the mouth, then Rinne play the pick in the corner, both right in front of the refs, both not called last night. NHL officiating is incompetent.
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sorry thats one more
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Stralman hugging Hank… almost kissing him.
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Congrats Hank on the well-deserved win. I always like watching team Sweden, cause they always seem to genuinely like and enjoy playing with each other.
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I wonder if $hittsburgh will play Fleury in the next game….
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EVRock
never should have let Stralman go
Team Sweden had far better forwards than the Rangers do too
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in 1/2 hour memorial cup
Day vs Gropp
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Wildly happy for Hank. He deserves it!
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Just saw that Nylander tackle. Hank probably should have gone through the concussion protocol after that! Good for Nylander. He is some player.
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Watching the memorial cup. Sean Day sure can skate. Just went end to end and nearly scored. Ryan Gropp, has not done much but Seattle is outclassed by Windsor.
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(Future Ranger) Matt Duchene was pretty invisible in the Final vs. Sweden.
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Quintal could have been a first ballot HoFer.
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Greschner could have been a first mullet hall of famer.
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Kooz – your Sean day/Jason day doubleheader joke was very lol
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Good morning, boneheads!
Congrats to Hank and Oscar.
Do we need a fresh post?
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Watched Day, and Gropp play yesterday. Day was very noticeable, Gropp no so much. In Gropps defense, he was playing a lot with Barzel. As great a skater and stick handler as Barzel is, he does not move the puck. Lots of skating around with the puck, and the occasional wish pass. Trying to keep my opinion on what I am seeing in Day realistic, but it is very hard. He looks to be special.
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BDL, I think it was a very good move by NY. He was projected to be top 10, or even 5. He was granted the exceptional status at 15 4th time in history ( Tavares, Ekblad, and McDavid being other 3) because of his physical ability, skating, and skills. But then he had some serious family issues which contributed to his weight gain, etc. Taking him it the third round is low risk, and potentially high reward move.
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Thanx, E3. Sometimes you think you’re talking to the wall, as you well know.
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NEW POST
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please new post and put that picture of Henk getting steamrolled by Nyquist on the top.
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Lazy Frog asks anyone hanging around to announce NEW POST. And so it has herewith come to pass. NEW POST
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Tough audience, coos…
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http://gph.is/1Uc6yHU
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Oops, carp’ed myself
NEW POST
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