Had to listen in car to some hick station from pennsyltucky on way home. So Preds were robbed of first goal again. Shocking. Shame tv can’t take the Kenny feed..tired of Doc Penguin and his side kicks
I wanted to make a joke about the word slow but….it really is slow. That’s a good thing though. At least they’ve been fun to watch for a while. Plus you never know what next year will bring. Hopefully more concussions for Crosby. I kid….or do I….?
Good morning, boneheads!
Carp’s Pens with another Cup. Congratulations!
As for us, boneheads- welcome to another postseason. Let the conversation begin.
Guess if you factor in final placement based upon playoff results:
Pits
Preds
Sens
Ducks
Craps
Blues
Rangers
Oilers
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Yeah – we finished 7th!!! Top 25% of the whole league. Why wouldnt fans be happy with being 7th?!?
Good morning Boneheads! I didn’t see the whole game. After the disallowed goal I went to bed. Wasn’t feeling well, besides we all knew the outcome! Another glorious year for the NHL poster boy and is penguin buddies. Well I do not suffer alone for what could have been! Sadly just another year of NYR disappointment! Thank you Mr. Sather for all you have done for our beloved Rangers!
With the Stanley Cup Final complete, here is another look at the upcoming NHL schedule, which will be a busy two weeks ahead. pic.twitter.com/0H0LbxGZIq
The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy to win in professional sports and the Pens just won it for the second year in a row, with a team I would not consider to be all that exceptional. Pretty impressive when you think about it that way.
As Rangers fans I think we know how hard these series can be and how much has to go right to win them.
Hard to stomach watching the officiating play such a crucial role in the outcome (besides Murray I mean… easily could have been 4-2 or 5-2 Preds).
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Well, I guess they slept well in Montreal last night!
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On to the white knuckle summer for Rangers fans – will we see the pace of the sand slipping out of Lundqvist’s hourglass quicken? or will we get a reboot?
Thanks for the encouraging prognostication Coos! Not sure I will see 2049! To make this even worse my stepdaughter, who I love dearly is a penguin fan.
5 Cups for the Pens in my lifetime may be the worst thing I’ve had to deal with and I’m a cancer survivor.
Smh welp, I guess we should start discussing Raanta trade rumors and trade scenarios for the next four months. Glad Hagelin has won a Cuo every year he hasn’t been a Ranger btw
Rangers are going to have to sign Puempel Fast or Lindberg over the next week or so to not be in violation of the expansion draft rules.
It seems like they’d rather move Raanta than lose him for nothing and at least for now sign Fast (injured) and hang on to Staal and Girardi to protect them and perhaps allow Vegas to only be able to select a Holden or Klein.
Raanta rumors invole Calgary and Winnipeg. That better mean Hamilton or Trouba involvement with other Rangers getting packages obviously
Conn Smythe is gonna get renamed “Little Sid” from what I hear. And I don’t just mean the trophy, the league is going to go carve it on the headstone which will now read
“Constantine ‘little Sid’ Smythe”
Cal Foote please. And no, not because they have the need right now for a mobile righty defenseman but because they’re not going to get any easier to find over the next few years either.
Yeah…tell that to Mike Johnston and Michel Therrien who had two of the best players in the game and won nothing…. Sullivan comes in and wins with half AHL roster…TWICE!
But you say the players are more important. Which can be true, sure… but those two comically bad coaches had the best players in the game arguably at their prime and couldn’t win.
Rangers had Gaborik, **Lundqvist**, Nash, Richards, St. Louis, mister clutch Drury, Gomez with multiple cups, Dany G and Stawhl in prime… JAGR! Straka, Nylander… those are all great to very good players! …and?
I didn’t say coaching was a nonfactor. But it’s far from the most important factor. Babcock couldn’t do anything with those latter Detroit teams. Quenneville couldn’t win until he had Toews, Kane, Keith, and Hossa. An average coach can win a Cup with a great roster, but an average roster can’t win a Cup no matter who the coach is.
Coache’s voice gets stale. That could be the reason why great teams don’t win anymore.
Quenneville won the first cup in 09 and then couldn’t win anything until 13 when they got Michal Rozsival… after that 2 cups in 3 years… so not sure how Kane and Toews were the reason Chicago won when it is clear as day that it was Rozsival who got them over the top 🙂
A coach has to have guts. Guts enough to bench a Stanley cup winning goalie, and replace him with a rookie. Guts enough to do the same type of thing in the ECF. Coaches mattter. Coaches get you the matchup you are 👀 by for.
So I guess we’re not winning a cup for a while, average coach average team. One thing to consider all those teams had a goalie making big stops at the biggest of times. New York Rangers not so much!
and who is playing on Pens’ first pair? Dumoulin? Cole? Daley ? According to Carp, the current version of Staawlh is much better than those top dman on the Pens. So…
Makes sense. People talk about Vegas having to hit the cap floor, but I think it’s going to be a lot harder than people realized for them to stay under the ceiling.
Don’t forget that Clarkson is a candidate for LTIR because of his lower back injury. Vegas would take on the salary, but can erase the cap hit. Columbus could as well, but their ownership might not want to foot the $5.25 million bill for three more years.
I still buy out staal. It will take a lot longer to get rid of his contract without the buy out. Girardi is movable a lot sooner.
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I also think Girardi is more valuable to this team.
I honestly do not get that logic. They would not have beat the Pens, so it doesn’t matter that AV screwed up the Sens series. Also, some forget around here, that the Rangers beat the Pens in two of the last three times they have met in the playoffs. Oh and the last team to beat the Pens in the playoffs, the Rangers.
This team under this coach has been making the same mistakes without correcting them for the past two years…and what does the management do? They give the coach contract extension. Only in New York.
I don’t recall Sullivan being the most loved of the coaching staff… but now he’s a god? Hmm… Staal has trade value, G does not. You would buy out G and get Staal to waive NMC, ideal world of course. And then there’s that problem child at #1C who is about to get a NMC kicking in, right?
Not being a wise guy, but if the Boneheads who want AV fired were given the ability to do so who would you want as the new coach? The last thing I want to see is another retread get retirement money from Jimmy Dolan.
Personally, I was never a big fan of AV’s and probably would have kept Torts – player mutiny or not. Unlike when Mark Messier got Roger Neilson fired, none of the anti-Torts players had the cache of Messier. I think AV needs to bring in the equivalent of Benoit Allaire to run the PP and PK. I am just not sure who those coaches would be. Adam Oates? Craig Ramsay? I am not sure if there are any younger assistants who are available and fit that bill.
I don’t see a buyout being a humiliation to any player. They sign the LT contract knowing it might end that way and they are guaranteed most of the money. Not like the NFL where they can cut you loose at any time and you have squat going forward. Look at Drury. They bough him out and he came back to the organization and is apparently a rising management star. It’s not personal, it’s just business. They always liked Danny. They will take care of him. He’s going to Vegas-but not to learn the casino business.
I would have thought you guys would know better. I know it’s just for something to talk about, but why does it have to be all or nothing with you guys? Why is it the coach stinks and the players are fine or the players stink and the coach is fine? I would imagine the truth is somewhere in between. It’s got to be a little of both. The chemistry has to be exactly right. A better coach may be able to compensate for lesser players and vice-versa. Can’t it be 68% coaching and 32% players or the other way around?
Makes zero sense not to ask. If one obliges Vegas not taking that contract and you could do 8 skaters 1 goalie rather then 7-3-1 format thus keeping extra body of grabner Lindberg fast
The 8-1 would still be 7 forwards since mcd has to be protected. For the most part that’s for teams with an excess of dmen that they don’t want to lose. 7-3-1 is the way to go for the Rangers. Girardi and Staal have no effect there since Klein and Holden either would not be picked or so what if they did.
It would only matter if we traded for a stud dman before expansion draft.
ZEROES
Kevin Shattenkirk – Really, there was nothing wrong with what Shattenkirk provided down the stretch, as he was still putting up points with solid possession stats, but his playoffs was another story: he was exposed defensively, and had his ice time cut, which isn’t quite what the Capitals were expecting when they landed the big name on the trade market.
Eddie J
It’s the coach, it’s the players that wear the “A”, it’s the lack of bite in the top 6 forwards, it’s the cap hit of some players…plenty to go around.
I’d like to address all this kerfuffle of Shakespeare-in-the-Park making Julius Caesar look like Donald Trump. (Having United Airlines and Bank of America pull sponsorship is not exactly going to ruin the reputation of the Public Theater.) In my opinion it’s just bad casting.
Trump shouldn’t be Caesar, he should be Cassius (in spite of the ‘lean and hungry look’ bit).
Mike Pence should be Brutus (in spite of the ‘noblest Roman of them all’ bit).
James Comey as Antony (Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war).
Robert Mueller as Octavius and finally,
the Presidency itself as Julius Caesar.
Casting of other plays…
Trump as the blustering, alzheimeric Lear
(I will have such revenges on you both,
That all the world shall—I will do such things,—
What they are, yet I know not: but they shall be
The terrors of the earth.)
Of course the Don, Jr. and Eric as Regan and Goneril. I’d just like to see Trump try to get his stuff back after all this is done.
Which makes Baron into Cordelia (poor Cordelia)
And remember, he (Lear) had to be rescued by the French.
Richard III anyone. Anyone think Trump can be the title character, nah.
Vladimir Putin as Richard, Duke of Gloucester
Trump as his brother, the Duke of Clarence.
Hamlet, no not the title character. Here we have him cast as a lesser character – Polonius. Jared Kushner is the rather ineffectual Hamlet that causes the ‘accidental’ death of Polonius. Which of course, makes Ivanka (Get thee to a nunnery), Ophelia.
How about the Scottish play. I see Trump as Banquo (mostly because Banquo’s best is accusatory). Baron must become Fleance then. Of course, the three hags are Spicer, Conway, and Priebus making predictions that are not quite what they seem.
Apparently MAF has waived his NMC and is being made available for trade or expansion draft. Its up to McPhee now, do they take MAF and load up with a couple of younger goalies like Subban/Korpisalo to back him up, or do they go with an experienced back-up who can step in and carry the load, like Aauntie?
Disagree Admiral. While Fleury is a “bargain” being what #1 goalies go for nowadays, money-wise, he still makes a fair chunk of change for a few more years. If a team thinks that Raanta is the real deal, a la Talbot, I think they’re more inclined to pay to get in on the ground floor, contract-wise. If more than one team thinks Raanta gives them a #1 Goaltender for a $1M cap hit, he becomes very appealing.
Though having said that – if a trade did happen, I think a middle R2 is an absolute coup, seeing what Talbot’s larger sample size netted us. We’re probably looking at an R3 if things stay sane.
Then – Gorton has a decision – is that R3 that we’re getting for Raanta more valuable to us than Lindberg or Fast? While I think Vegas will have all the goalies they need in Fleury, Grubauer, and Malcolm Subban starting in the AHL…Raanta is pretty attractive and I think they grab him as an asset at the very least. If he’s not there, we lose Lindberg or Fast (barring one of those “Take this mid-rounder and help yourself to Kevin Klein” deals).
So…do we hang onto Raanta only to lose him for free as to not lose Lindberg, Fast, or Grabner? Or is an extra R2 or R3 pick worth rolling the dice and losing a decent depth forward?
Is La Flower a slam dunk for Vegas? $5.75M for OK stats over the last 2 years.
I’ve read somewhere to be careful about loading up too much Cap in that position…
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Any college boys we are looking at save for Dman we already grabbed?
Do Haze and VC have another BC brutha from anutha??
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Sauer update?
I agree there BDL. I like Raanta, but Allaire is some sort of goalie whisperer. I feel like any backup we get is someone that he has taken a look at and judged as a player he can work with. I have full confidence that whoever is our backup next season, be it a cheap pickup or one of the kids, will do well under him.
We’re two seasons away from Shestyorkin making his way over – we’ll either be going shopping for a cheapie who comes with the Allaire nod, or looking at Halverson or Skapski.
Here’s my question, if you can move kreider in a deal to get a very very good centre or D man (kreider as centrepiece or part of big “package”), would you do it?
We are pretty deep on wing, but I put kreider as one of our 2 best wingers. I’m counting miller as the other.
That being said there are some pretty damn good younger wingers out there that could be had to replace him i.e. Landeskog, e Kane etc
Preds in 7.
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Btw, anybody else getting bored by this fish thing in Nashville?
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Ends tonight.
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It’s ovah tonight…the game that is, not Ranger fans’ pain.
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If AV consents to Ruff he is 90% hiring his successor/replacement, no?
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Ice is crap. Puck bounces all over the place.
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Preds will win tonight – Mark Messier
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Even if the pens lose tonight they easily win game 7 at home!
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I’d rather the pens win game 6 then if they win game 7. they’ve never won cup at home so keep it that way.
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Just trying to keep my yacht above water.
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The Pens are mightier than the horde
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good one from carp on ruff
Rick Carpiniello @RickCarpiniello
And dogs can say his name
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Wow Preds got jobbed on that one. Should be 1-0
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Bettman’s Schill Squad bails out the Golden Pens.
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Ref robs the Preds yet again. Spitsburgh can’t lose…
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If that was Lundqvist, 5 seconds must elapse before whistle is blown.
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Extremely quick whistle! Wtf?!
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If it were Lundqvist they’d get a few piñata whacks in before the puck was declared frozen
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Make up call.
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Actually LMAO @ dogs can say his name 😄
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And yet they will go back after 2 minutes of play, and review an offsides call to confirm a goal.
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If it were Lundqvist the whistle doesnt come until the puck is in the net.
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Remember that time somebody (I forget) won the Cup and they had to wait half an hour for it to show up at the arena?
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Let’s go Preds
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LET’S GO PREDS!! WE WANT A CUP! WE WANT A CUP!
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Good period?
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🔩 the 🖊s !
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Philosophically, am I wrong that make up calls are okay when the original call is so blatantly wrong? Preds should be winning 1-0 but they’re not
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Doc wants Cindy’s Pekka
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Not saying the Preds should still be getting favorable calls, but the quick power play is understandable and maybe even correct
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My commentary above is in response to Keith Jones saying make up calls are always wrong
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Yeah but it is still 0-0 insyead of 1-0
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This Final is such a blatant screw job that I probably won’t get over it until early October.
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Come on you guys you know how this ends. Skid scores winner
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Damn Faith Hill is old.
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Hagelin with OT winner. 1-0
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Eric is correct. Dammit I hate that sausage-lipped choy boy.
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Prob a late pp as well for pens. Only matter time
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Had to listen in car to some hick station from pennsyltucky on way home. So Preds were robbed of first goal again. Shocking. Shame tv can’t take the Kenny feed..tired of Doc Penguin and his side kicks
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If Preds don’t score here… Well, whatever.
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Big PP
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Refs trying to make up for missed goal. Still pens get theirs late
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Not a quick whistle there
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Come on Preds
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Preds done with their breaks. Only a matter of time now.
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Wasted opportunity.
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A golden opportunity turns into a golden shower.
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Kessel with the GWG.
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Pens pp coming and will convert.
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We Kovalchuk yet?
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*get
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No
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Game over. Season over.
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Ok I was wrong about Kessel.
Damn it.
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How does that even go in?
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Horndog with the goal.
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At least it wasn’t Cindy. Vomit
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I don’t see any contact. This is a Hail Mary
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I gotta go poop. don’t tell me how it ends…
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There was refs’ chance to make up for quick whistle
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Let’s go Preds.
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I guess either way it ends as a bowl of crap.
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Hagelin.
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Rangers haven’t scored an empty net goal since Hagelin left.
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Matt Murray – 2
Henrik Lundqvist – 0
Look at Matt Murray standing up when it counts the most.
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NBC has been hyping the Nashville crowd all series but refuses to show them throwing garbage on the ice. What gives?
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Carl Hagelin. One time Ranger, two time Stanley cup winner.
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that sucked.
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Shoulda been us.
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Mike Sullivan. One time Ranger, two time Stanley cup winner.
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I couldn’t feel prouder for these Penguins.
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Pierre McGuire to Crosby: “Sydney, I know you’re modest but, can I touch your peepee, plz?”
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17 hrs left can Girardi or staal waive NMC clause for expansion draft
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I want to be a dude in a suit that wins the Cup
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Did we buyout anyone yet?
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BLEAAARRRGGGGHHHHHEEEECCCCHHHHHH!!!
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Brb….gotta clean that up. Looked like Crosby on the way back out.
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Eric
that doesn’t matter. No chance that klein or holden get picked by vegas and even if they did so what.
only matters if we trade for a dman before the expansion and that isn’t likely.
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As we watch Skid skate home with his third cup this summer, simultaneously we see the Rangers’ slow demise into mediocrity…
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I wanted to make a joke about the word slow but….it really is slow. That’s a good thing though. At least they’ve been fun to watch for a while. Plus you never know what next year will bring. Hopefully more concussions for Crosby. I kid….or do I….?
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Good morning, boneheads!
Carp’s Pens with another Cup. Congratulations!
As for us, boneheads- welcome to another postseason. Let the conversation begin.
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Guess if you factor in final placement based upon playoff results:
Pits
Preds
Sens
Ducks
Craps
Blues
Rangers
Oilers
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Yeah – we finished 7th!!! Top 25% of the whole league. Why wouldnt fans be happy with being 7th?!?
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Lindy Ruff: And 75 year- old Dancing Dogs can say his name.
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He ain’t ruff and he ain’t tuff, but he’s old and vocal and that’s enough.
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Good morning Boneheads! I didn’t see the whole game. After the disallowed goal I went to bed. Wasn’t feeling well, besides we all knew the outcome! Another glorious year for the NHL poster boy and is penguin buddies. Well I do not suffer alone for what could have been! Sadly just another year of NYR disappointment! Thank you Mr. Sather for all you have done for our beloved Rangers!
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who’s lifetime was sam talking about
“and this one will last a lifetime”
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Well, if you were 20 in 1994, an actuarial lifetime would be about 75 years, so we should win again in about 2049.
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Some fine prognostication in this post. CREEPY!
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The Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy to win in professional sports and the Pens just won it for the second year in a row, with a team I would not consider to be all that exceptional. Pretty impressive when you think about it that way.
As Rangers fans I think we know how hard these series can be and how much has to go right to win them.
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Hard to stomach watching the officiating play such a crucial role in the outcome (besides Murray I mean… easily could have been 4-2 or 5-2 Preds).
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Well, I guess they slept well in Montreal last night!
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On to the white knuckle summer for Rangers fans – will we see the pace of the sand slipping out of Lundqvist’s hourglass quicken? or will we get a reboot?
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What is the big effing deal about accurate passing and accurate shooting?
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https://www.sny.tv/rangers/news/the-rangers-have-not-asked-staal-or-girardi-to-waive-for-expansion/234319970
6/12/17 | Renaud Lavoie writes in the Journal de Montreal that “several rumors are circulating” that the Rangers “could” buy out Girardi’s contract.
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Humiliating, perhaps for Danny G., but he stuffs dollars in his jockstrap for the flight out.
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Stating the obvious, but the old management gave out NMCs like they were candy and on top of already generous contracts.
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Thanks for the encouraging prognostication Coos! Not sure I will see 2049! To make this even worse my stepdaughter, who I love dearly is a penguin fan.
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Had they offered Stralman a NMC, he’d still be here.
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Only going by Sam’s spout, Eli. Personally, I think we take it all sometime around the mid twenty-thirties. 🙂
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Richie Rich: “I could help this team, but they haven’t reached out.”
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5 Cups for the Pens in my lifetime may be the worst thing I’ve had to deal with and I’m a cancer survivor.
Smh welp, I guess we should start discussing Raanta trade rumors and trade scenarios for the next four months. Glad Hagelin has won a Cuo every year he hasn’t been a Ranger btw
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Ugh.
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I guess the only ones left that Olivia Munn didn’t try is Vigneault and Tom Coughlin.
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Rangers are going to have to sign Puempel Fast or Lindberg over the next week or so to not be in violation of the expansion draft rules.
It seems like they’d rather move Raanta than lose him for nothing and at least for now sign Fast (injured) and hang on to Staal and Girardi to protect them and perhaps allow Vegas to only be able to select a Holden or Klein.
Raanta rumors invole Calgary and Winnipeg. That better mean Hamilton or Trouba involvement with other Rangers getting packages obviously
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Btw nice to see you guys (except Doodie of course) I had a graduation party while I was gone. What did you guys get me?!
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A former Tampa Bay player, James? (an Ex Ray)
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Penguins in a cup James G. Hope you like it, if not pass it on to Carp!
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LOL exactly Coos
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Carp is driving to Pittsburgh for the parade. I hope he hits traffic.
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Conn Smythe is gonna get renamed “Little Sid” from what I hear. And I don’t just mean the trophy, the league is going to go carve it on the headstone which will now read
“Constantine ‘little Sid’ Smythe”
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Keith McCambridge gets the Hartford job replacing his former boss Ken Gernander.
https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-keith-mccambridge-named-head-coach-of-hartford-wolf-pack/c-289897704
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McCambridge sounds like a college in Ireland.
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Gernander got disenchanted with the job when Glass was called up and he no longer had a bodyguard to walk him to the car after home games.
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Conn Smythe to be renamed El Cid!
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I wish they would rename that trophy. Conn Smythe was a disgusting racist.
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https://www.prosportstransactions.com/hockey/DraftTrades/Future/Rangers.htm
rangers draft in rounds
1 – 21 overall
4 – fla’s pick
5
6 vanc pick
7
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in 2018 we have an extra 2nd rd pick from brassard deal
and no 7th from same deal
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Alex, incorrect. That second round pick was sent to Detroit as part of the Smith deal.
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Lots of interesting choices at 21 this year, especially if some guys slip in the draft.
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ISIS took full responsibility for last night’s refereeing.
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Cal Foote please. And no, not because they have the need right now for a mobile righty defenseman but because they’re not going to get any easier to find over the next few years either.
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1st round pick?
What are those??
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Foote isn’t much of a puck mover, though. Plays very much like his dad.
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Check with the pens SN they know what they are and how to get one!
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It’s important to have the right players to win the cup but I think it is even more important to have the right coach.
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I think the right coach is significantly less important than the players.
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Yeah…tell that to Mike Johnston and Michel Therrien who had two of the best players in the game and won nothing…. Sullivan comes in and wins with half AHL roster…TWICE!
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…IN A ROW.
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and opposite situation in LA… no big time names but the coach was able to squeeze two cups outta them.
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pitt has the best player in the game plus another top 10 guy
la had really really good players like doughty, carter and quick
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Cullen can win a faceoff or two
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So picking two comically bad coaches is your example? Even Therrien almost won with the Penguins roster.
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and Kopitar.
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But you say the players are more important. Which can be true, sure… but those two comically bad coaches had the best players in the game arguably at their prime and couldn’t win.
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Rangers had Gaborik, **Lundqvist**, Nash, Richards, St. Louis, mister clutch Drury, Gomez with multiple cups, Dany G and Stawhl in prime… JAGR! Straka, Nylander… those are all great to very good players! …and?
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not all at the same time CCCP
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Duh lol… But we did have Kovalev, Messier, Jagr, Lindros, Leetch, Holik, Nedved, Malakhov, Kasparitis all on the same team at one time! lol
and? 🙂
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You know who else the Rangers had all that time? Sather. And? There’s your answer…
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I didn’t say coaching was a nonfactor. But it’s far from the most important factor. Babcock couldn’t do anything with those latter Detroit teams. Quenneville couldn’t win until he had Toews, Kane, Keith, and Hossa. An average coach can win a Cup with a great roster, but an average roster can’t win a Cup no matter who the coach is.
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Jagr, Drury, Gomez, Shanahan, Straka, Lundqvist… Avery… all on the same team. and?
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Malik and Rozsival first pairing on defense.
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Coache’s voice gets stale. That could be the reason why great teams don’t win anymore.
Quenneville won the first cup in 09 and then couldn’t win anything until 13 when they got Michal Rozsival… after that 2 cups in 3 years… so not sure how Kane and Toews were the reason Chicago won when it is clear as day that it was Rozsival who got them over the top 🙂
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and we had Rozsival lol …and? 😛
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A coach has to have guts. Guts enough to bench a Stanley cup winning goalie, and replace him with a rookie. Guts enough to do the same type of thing in the ECF. Coaches mattter. Coaches get you the matchup you are 👀 by for.
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and some coaches just get you “good looks”…
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anyway…what I am trying to say is – we need a change behind the bench.
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Whistle to whistling past the graveyard
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So I guess we’re not winning a cup for a while, average coach average team. One thing to consider all those teams had a goalie making big stops at the biggest of times. New York Rangers not so much!
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Malik and Rozsival first pairing on defense.
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and who is playing on Pens’ first pair? Dumoulin? Cole? Daley ? According to Carp, the current version of Staawlh is much better than those top dman on the Pens. So…
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Old but gold…
http://www.tmz.com/2017/06/12/sean-avery-street-fight-video/
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Per Lebrun, Dion Phaneuf the first player asked to waive NMC for expansion purposes. No response yet from Phaneuf.
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Yandle was asked to waive too. ..or so I read.
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You’re right. Elliotte Friedman had both Yandle and Phanuef a couple of days ago.
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Makes sense. People talk about Vegas having to hit the cap floor, but I think it’s going to be a lot harder than people realized for them to stay under the ceiling.
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MAF has waived his no trade.
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I guess we get to keep Raanta.
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Friedman thinks there will be a trade between Columbus and Vegas. Clarkson and a 1st for no Clarkson.
Agree that the ceiling will approach pretty quickly.
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If only Bran Bole scored 30 once instead of 21… he’d be making 7 million a year too lol
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Don’t forget that Clarkson is a candidate for LTIR because of his lower back injury. Vegas would take on the salary, but can erase the cap hit. Columbus could as well, but their ownership might not want to foot the $5.25 million bill for three more years.
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You guys hear about the Rangers reaching out to Lindy Ruff?
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The line for the AV apologists forms to the left. Hurry, it’s filling up quickly.
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Not apologizing for him, just pointing out that if we had switched coaches, we still wouldn’t have won.
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How you know that?
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James
We flushed Ruff already lol
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I still buy out staal. It will take a lot longer to get rid of his contract without the buy out. Girardi is movable a lot sooner.
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I also think Girardi is more valuable to this team.
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Doodie,
I think we get a lot closer with someone else. AV crapped the bed vs the sens.
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Maybe, but I don’t think we beat the Penguins.
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I honestly do not get that logic. They would not have beat the Pens, so it doesn’t matter that AV screwed up the Sens series. Also, some forget around here, that the Rangers beat the Pens in two of the last three times they have met in the playoffs. Oh and the last team to beat the Pens in the playoffs, the Rangers.
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Very different teams, Penguins and Rangers both.
And it doesn’t absolve AV. But no coach in the world was going to win with this roster.
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Rangers not so different.
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This team under this coach has been making the same mistakes without correcting them for the past two years…and what does the management do? They give the coach contract extension. Only in New York.
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I don’t recall Sullivan being the most loved of the coaching staff… but now he’s a god? Hmm… Staal has trade value, G does not. You would buy out G and get Staal to waive NMC, ideal world of course. And then there’s that problem child at #1C who is about to get a NMC kicking in, right?
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We will never win a Cup with Lundqvist as our starter.
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Not being a wise guy, but if the Boneheads who want AV fired were given the ability to do so who would you want as the new coach? The last thing I want to see is another retread get retirement money from Jimmy Dolan.
Personally, I was never a big fan of AV’s and probably would have kept Torts – player mutiny or not. Unlike when Mark Messier got Roger Neilson fired, none of the anti-Torts players had the cache of Messier. I think AV needs to bring in the equivalent of Benoit Allaire to run the PP and PK. I am just not sure who those coaches would be. Adam Oates? Craig Ramsay? I am not sure if there are any younger assistants who are available and fit that bill.
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I don’t see a buyout being a humiliation to any player. They sign the LT contract knowing it might end that way and they are guaranteed most of the money. Not like the NFL where they can cut you loose at any time and you have squat going forward. Look at Drury. They bough him out and he came back to the organization and is apparently a rising management star. It’s not personal, it’s just business. They always liked Danny. They will take care of him. He’s going to Vegas-but not to learn the casino business.
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This team is not even close to a cup team. Can’t make chicken soup out of chicken Sht no matter who the chef is.
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Pretty sure Bobby Flay can make a pretty good chicken soup outta chicken poop 🙂
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BDL, Rangers are very different, both in personnel, and more importantly, quality of play from those players still remaining.
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I’d like to see the buyout rate lowered to 1/2 from 2/3. Not going to get much lower so fair to all sides.
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We never winning again until we’re all gone. Hopefully your kids see it.
One hour until girardi and staal need be asked.
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They are not being asked…isn’t that obvious?
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Every once in a while, Ken Campbell writes a decent article.
FAILINGS OF VIDEO REPLAY IN THE NHL ON FULL DISPLAY IN STANLEY CUP FINAL
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/failings-of-video-replay-in-the-nhl-on-full-display-in-stanley-cup-final
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I would have thought you guys would know better. I know it’s just for something to talk about, but why does it have to be all or nothing with you guys? Why is it the coach stinks and the players are fine or the players stink and the coach is fine? I would imagine the truth is somewhere in between. It’s got to be a little of both. The chemistry has to be exactly right. A better coach may be able to compensate for lesser players and vice-versa. Can’t it be 68% coaching and 32% players or the other way around?
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Makes zero sense not to ask. If one obliges Vegas not taking that contract and you could do 8 skaters 1 goalie rather then 7-3-1 format thus keeping extra body of grabner Lindberg fast
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Eric
The 8-1 would still be 7 forwards since mcd has to be protected. For the most part that’s for teams with an excess of dmen that they don’t want to lose. 7-3-1 is the way to go for the Rangers. Girardi and Staal have no effect there since Klein and Holden either would not be picked or so what if they did.
It would only matter if we traded for a stud dman before expansion draft.
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We are past the deadline and still no word on Staal or Girardi. I would thin that maybe they would have asked Girardi, but definitely not Staal.
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Blackhawks to Name Ulf Samuelsson as Assistant Coach.
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http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-washington-capitals-1.776983
ZEROES
Kevin Shattenkirk – Really, there was nothing wrong with what Shattenkirk provided down the stretch, as he was still putting up points with solid possession stats, but his playoffs was another story: he was exposed defensively, and had his ice time cut, which isn’t quite what the Capitals were expecting when they landed the big name on the trade market.
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Not what they expected? Geez… all they had to do prior to trading for him is watch him play! I mean, duh! Crazy idea, eh?
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true dat cccp
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word
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Eddie J
It’s the coach, it’s the players that wear the “A”, it’s the lack of bite in the top 6 forwards, it’s the cap hit of some players…plenty to go around.
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I’d like to address all this kerfuffle of Shakespeare-in-the-Park making Julius Caesar look like Donald Trump. (Having United Airlines and Bank of America pull sponsorship is not exactly going to ruin the reputation of the Public Theater.) In my opinion it’s just bad casting.
Trump shouldn’t be Caesar, he should be Cassius (in spite of the ‘lean and hungry look’ bit).
Mike Pence should be Brutus (in spite of the ‘noblest Roman of them all’ bit).
James Comey as Antony (Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war).
Robert Mueller as Octavius and finally,
the Presidency itself as Julius Caesar.
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Anything over $4.5 mil per for shattenkirk is an overpay…he’s going to get overpaid by someone.
I sure as hell hope it isn’t us.
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Casting of other plays…
Trump as the blustering, alzheimeric Lear
(I will have such revenges on you both,
That all the world shall—I will do such things,—
What they are, yet I know not: but they shall be
The terrors of the earth.)
Of course the Don, Jr. and Eric as Regan and Goneril. I’d just like to see Trump try to get his stuff back after all this is done.
Which makes Baron into Cordelia (poor Cordelia)
And remember, he (Lear) had to be rescued by the French.
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Wicky
its trading a lot of number 1 and number 2 picks too. gm, especially previous one, has his hands all over this mess going forward.
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Then there’s Henry IV 1 and 2,
Trump would make a perfect Falstaff
and Paul Ryan as Prince Hal who shoves him under the bus as soon as he’s no longer convenient.
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Richard III anyone. Anyone think Trump can be the title character, nah.
Vladimir Putin as Richard, Duke of Gloucester
Trump as his brother, the Duke of Clarence.
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Othello, Trump’s definitely the title character in this one, Putin (again) as Iago and as Desdemona
Lady Liberty.
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Hamlet, no not the title character. Here we have him cast as a lesser character – Polonius. Jared Kushner is the rather ineffectual Hamlet that causes the ‘accidental’ death of Polonius. Which of course, makes Ivanka (Get thee to a nunnery), Ophelia.
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My bad doodie. My math is messed up. Long day.
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How about the Scottish play. I see Trump as Banquo (mostly because Banquo’s best is accusatory). Baron must become Fleance then. Of course, the three hags are Spicer, Conway, and Priebus making predictions that are not quite what they seem.
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No politics!
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What politics, I’m just casting modern versions of Shakespeare. Is there anything I’ve written that doesn’t scan?
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Actually, it’s a testament to the timelessness of Shakespeare.
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wicky broke the blog.
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again.
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I’d be willing to bet a lot of money that the Rangers will win the Cup shortly (1-3 years) after Lundqvist retires or joins another team.
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TJ
What are you willing to bet?
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My Penguins. one for the thumb. Always loved those guys. especially Jagr.
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havent been able to comment in a few days. freakin magnet ads up top wouldnt let me.
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TJ what are smokin?
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Sure carp, blame it on the ads. 😉
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Carp ate so many Walter’s hot dogs he couldnt gey through the blog’s door.
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If you go through the trouba door, do you find good defense and harmony?
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anybody else having this problem?
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What’s a magnet ad?
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Lundqvist will win the Cup shortly (1-3 years) after Lundqvist joins another team.
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What problem, Carp? Inability to get through the door or the ad?
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Look at NHL on NBC cover photo… that says everything.
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wtf? how the hell the entire site pasted here?
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Slatsko- Now your statement makes a heck of a lot more sense than TJ’s.
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What the Byfuglien is all that Penguin crap posted here?
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Now we’ve got that out of the way…the fun can begin. Contract shenanigans, clause waiving, GM bribing – lets GO!
https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft
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Apparently MAF has waived his NMC and is being made available for trade or expansion draft. Its up to McPhee now, do they take MAF and load up with a couple of younger goalies like Subban/Korpisalo to back him up, or do they go with an experienced back-up who can step in and carry the load, like Aauntie?
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when is the parade?
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Hope it rains on it!
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Good morning, boneheads!
Rains? Fire at will!
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Lets all go to Pittsburgh and shower Syd and the boys with Listerine and tic tacs!!
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With the availability of the Flower, Auntie now gets us less in return, and Pisstburgh should get a decent player in return.
The hits just keep on comin’
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I would never go to pissburgh for any reason. It is the rectum of the world!
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Caesar spots Panther winger on cloud in next life, says “Is that a Jagr I see before me?”
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No showers in Pittsburgh. Only in Vegas – or Moscow.
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taylor beck to khl
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Disagree Admiral. While Fleury is a “bargain” being what #1 goalies go for nowadays, money-wise, he still makes a fair chunk of change for a few more years. If a team thinks that Raanta is the real deal, a la Talbot, I think they’re more inclined to pay to get in on the ground floor, contract-wise. If more than one team thinks Raanta gives them a #1 Goaltender for a $1M cap hit, he becomes very appealing.
Though having said that – if a trade did happen, I think a middle R2 is an absolute coup, seeing what Talbot’s larger sample size netted us. We’re probably looking at an R3 if things stay sane.
Then – Gorton has a decision – is that R3 that we’re getting for Raanta more valuable to us than Lindberg or Fast? While I think Vegas will have all the goalies they need in Fleury, Grubauer, and Malcolm Subban starting in the AHL…Raanta is pretty attractive and I think they grab him as an asset at the very least. If he’s not there, we lose Lindberg or Fast (barring one of those “Take this mid-rounder and help yourself to Kevin Klein” deals).
So…do we hang onto Raanta only to lose him for free as to not lose Lindberg, Fast, or Grabner? Or is an extra R2 or R3 pick worth rolling the dice and losing a decent depth forward?
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Is La Flower a slam dunk for Vegas? $5.75M for OK stats over the last 2 years.
I’ve read somewhere to be careful about loading up too much Cap in that position…
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Any college boys we are looking at save for Dman we already grabbed?
Do Haze and VC have another BC brutha from anutha??
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Sauer update?
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a decent depth forward…
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Leading goal scorer (Grabber) and best 2 way center in POs (Oscar).
Fast is only valued high in AV’s world
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OFFICIAL: #NYR 2017 pre-season schedule:
9/18 vs NYI
9/20 vs NJ
9/22 @ NYI
9/23 @ NJ
9/25 vs PHI
9/26 @ PHI
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Even if there were no expansion draft coming, the Rangers should be looking into trading Raanta.
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I agree there BDL. I like Raanta, but Allaire is some sort of goalie whisperer. I feel like any backup we get is someone that he has taken a look at and judged as a player he can work with. I have full confidence that whoever is our backup next season, be it a cheap pickup or one of the kids, will do well under him.
We’re two seasons away from Shestyorkin making his way over – we’ll either be going shopping for a cheapie who comes with the Allaire nod, or looking at Halverson or Skapski.
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the away game at islanders is in bridgeport
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Are we there yet?
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Here’s my question, if you can move kreider in a deal to get a very very good centre or D man (kreider as centrepiece or part of big “package”), would you do it?
We are pretty deep on wing, but I put kreider as one of our 2 best wingers. I’m counting miller as the other.
That being said there are some pretty damn good younger wingers out there that could be had to replace him i.e. Landeskog, e Kane etc
I like kreider a lot but I’d probably do it.
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In ironies of irony, habs need D, size with some skill, and centres…rangers trade Hayes, SkjeL, and kreider to mtl for Galchenyuk;)
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*NEW POST*
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