Dan Girardi Being Bought Out

Moments ago, the Rangers announced that they would be buying out the remainder of Girardi’s contract.  I find the move a bit surprising considering that they had not asked him to waive his NMC to help facilitate either a move to Vegas or a trade elsewhere. That being said, he had to come off the books somehow, and it was going to be expensive in either assets, dollar,s or both.  In this case, just dollars, and a lot of them. Girardi’s buyout costs are as follows (via CapFriendly):

SEASON SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT ACTUAL COST SAVINGS BUYOUT CAP HIT
2017-18 $4,000,000 $5,500,000 $1,111,111 $2,888,889 $2,611,111
2018-19 $3,000,000 $5,500,000 $1,111,111 $1,888,889 $3,611,111
2019-20 $3,000,000 $5,500,000 $1,111,111 $1,888,889 $3,611,111
2020-21 $0 $0 $1,111,111 -$1,111,111 $1,111,111
2021-22 $0 $0 $1,111,111 -$1,111,111 $1,111,111
2022-23 $0 $0 $1,111,111 -$1,111,111 $1,111,111

His buyout hit in year 1 is nearly the exact amount of money the Rangers would save if the reports regarding Kevin Klein retiring prove correct. Years 2 and 3 will be very painful, but the last three are pretty manageable.

Girardi was a great story (undrafted free agent) and warrior for the franchise, but his blood and guts play clearly has taken its toll on him.  Feel free to hare some of your favorite Girardi stories and/or jubilation that he will be off the team.

350 thoughts on “Dan Girardi Being Bought Out”

  1. Modified Repost:
    James, I know what you’re saying. I think trading for Fowler would make the draft seem worse, in hindsight, especially if it wound up being a Vesey-type going the other way. I’d just prefer to trade for any other defenseman.

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  2. I will always have nothing but the utmost respect for Girardi. The real tragedy hear is the team just became a lot less handsome.

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  3. thanks to Dan Girardi …. good Ranger …always gave his all for team. Best of luck going forward for him and his family. Hope he lands somewhere and succeeds….Torts probably calling him now

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  4. alex I don’t want to upset the Naslund poster on your wall, but again, I never made him out to be a failure. I just said he was in decline and headed for a buyout. An inevitable conclusion that was widely reported. Instead he retired.

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  5. so if Klein leaves for Europe, there isn’t an RD currently on the roster. Girardi buyout equates to 2.89 million of cap space freed up. With Klein’s contract off the books that’s about 5.7 million.

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  6. wrong doodie

    was 4 million cap hit not 5 million.

    24 goals. he was not the failure you paint him to be.

    we’re not going to agree on this.

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  7. My late wife Roe is looking down and is not pleased because Danny was one of her favorite players. Say what you want, the guy gave everything he had and was a darn good player for an undrafted free agent signing. I am a bit surprised that they didn’t try and move him, even if they had to retain some salary – anything to get those years two and three cap hits down.

    I would have to guess that Jeff Gorton did some investigating and found it probably wasn’t worth dealing him in terms of what the Rangers would have to retain in salary and pay in a “bribe” to get someone to take the contract. It could be a case of Gorton being a good guy and letting Girardi have a full say in where he plays, but I am thinking the pickings were slim to none on the market.

    With the Rangers luck, he signs with the Penguins and helps them to a three-peat 😦

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  8. Does this mean they have enough cap space to offer Shattenkirk a contract they’ll need to buyout in three years?

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  9. Youse guys have to get over this obsession with having an even split among the defensemen. In a perfect world, you want three lefties and three rightys. If this were a perfect worls, the Rangers would have won the Stanley Cup. I am not going to take a lesser righty-shot on defense just to have a balance.

    At some point in their careers, most lefty-shots have played right defense. The oddity is when you have to play a righty-shot on the left side because they have limited experience doing it (probably only the PP and maybe some PK).

    Jeff Gorton’s job is to get the best six defenseman he can regardless of how they shoot (other than making sure they can hit the net with their shot).

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  10. I’m fighting back tears from the news on Girardi. A true Ranger. Gave everything he had and then some. Was treated poorly by a good portion of the fan base the last two seasons. End of an era.

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  11. 5.7….really not that much for a team in need of two top 6 at the moment. Wondering if Derek Stepan is the next guy in Gorton’s cross hairs.

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  12. Anthony, let me be clear- I’m not talking about 3 right handed guys down the right side. I’m talking about players that can play the right side effectively. I don’t care if they hold their stick with their feet. Staal hasn’t done it well neither has Skjei. Holden can’t do it, McD isn’t going to do it. So yeah

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  13. Gotcha James. I mistook RD as a call for all righties.

    You shouldn’t want players who hold their sticks with their feet because all of their goals would be disallowed because of a “distinct kicking motion” 🙂 🙂

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  14. C3, that’s what I’m saying. Doodie is right (hate saying that) about this buyout basically erases the money freed up if Klein retires. Stepan’s contract is the ticking time bomb. Gotta hope they can move him.

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  15. While this was necessary, it is still a sad day. This man gave his all to the club for 11 years. for all the clowns and goldbrickers we have had to watch over the years, this guy was all heart and guts. I hope he finds a job with a good team and finds success.

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  16. Danny G had some real good years for this team gave it all even when the tank was empty. Hate to see him go this way but it was necessary. I’m sure he will always be one of Ovechkins favorite memories!

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  17. by the way- what are the expansion draft implications here? are the technically still in compliance? can they protect Grabner or Raanta now?

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  18. And I’m sure he’s talking that over with his wife and family, Doodie. At 33 years old, he’s already put his body through enough trauma that you’d think there’s consideration in regards to his quality of life. especially with young children.

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  19. James, yes, they are still in compliance, no they cannot protect either of those guys in addition to the players already being protected. They can, however, choose to protect Nick Holden, although doing so all but guarantees it’s a forward or Raanta that is selected.

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  20. James

    has no effect on protecting goalie or forward.

    will allow them to protect an acquired defenseman or smith if they sign him in next week

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  21. Girardi’s Statement:

    I would like to take this opportunity to thank the New York Rangers organization for giving me the opportunity to fulfill my childhood dream of playing in the National Hockey League.” Girardi wrote in a lengthy release posted to the team’s website. “I would also like to thank James Dolan, Glen Sather, Jim Schoenfeld, Jeff Gorton, John Rosasco, Jason Vogel, all of the coaches and front office staff, Jim Ramsay and his amazing training staff, the equipment staff, and all the Madison Square Garden employees for making my past 11 years so special.”

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  22. Doodie

    if klein retires and we don’t sign a dman i don’t think we can protect holden since have to make 1 dman available with certain playing time

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  23. Feel bad or not Danny G is a winner here. Contract from the Rangers PLUS new contract of its way AND change of scenery… Win-win for him.

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  24. Thanks, Doodie/Alex. I would make the assumption that they are either trying to get Smith locked up or they have a deal in place for someone. Guess we’ll have to see.

    ps- Doodie if they acquire Duchene and Barrie for Stepan and a package of guys I want you to reverse your decision on best trade scenario contest!

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  25. Brett Cyrgalis‏Verified account @BrettCyrgalis

    Matt Puempel’s deal with #NYR is for one year at $725,000.

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  26. It wasn’t very long ago when Giroux referred to Girardi as the most underrated player in the league. Man was he great at shutting down elite offensive players.

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  27. I find it very hard to believe, but the rumors are still out there that the Rangers are going to leave Stepan unprotected. Maybe the Rangers know Vegas won’t take him and it would allow the Rangers to protect AVs son.

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  28. CCCP- I worry, (it’s what I do), about the same thing with Girardi signing with a rival and winning it all.

    Norm said it best when he said that
    Girardi (and Staal) travelled to MTL (round 1-2017) via time machine. So true!

    I still think this was the right move. Thanks Dan Girardi for giving us everything you had and then some! He has the scars to prove it.

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  29. Wow! I’m missing all the fun. Will return back here full time after we go through the byfuglien residency review inspection tomorrow.
    Meantime, goodbye to one of true Rangers from the current era. Heart and soul of this team, definitely gave it all. Let’s hope he’s remembered for that.

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  30. Right move but sad day. The Girardi of old was what exemplified a heart and soul player. It was sad see the decline. Just don’t sign with a metro team.

    5th in metro book it

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  31. CCCP – Vegas has to take one player per team.

    Alex – Holden is comfortably within the game playing requirement.

    It is interesting that the NHL didn’t put in game requirements for goalies. It would have made some interesting trades as some teams would need to trade for veterans – or they would have had to play third goalies more (depending on what the game limit would have been). Example: Edmonton icould loose their top prospect goalie in Laurent Brossoit.

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  32. Remember Vegas needs spend at least 60 percent of the cap. Maybe they would take a stepan left unprotected.

    So are we going 7-3-1 still with Holden being Kept. Have to think smith gets resigned by Saturday morning before 5pm deadline.

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  33. AnthonyM

    my remark about holden was that someone said we can protect him now. i said we could not since then nobody would meet the requirement on our d if we don’t sign smith or make a trade.

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  34. G not making the Ducks defense, even if they lose a guy to expansion. Maybe he gets signed by Vegas and they make him an Alt. Captain.

    So will the Rangers now protect McDonough, Staal and Holden? (Unless they obtain another dman prior to expansion draft)

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  35. Alex, while true, Klein’s retirement will almost certainly wait until AFTER the draft.

    Another way this affects expansion: it opens up the possibility of trading a forward for a defenseman.

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  36. Blue warrior who gave his all, never fleet of foot, frequently dove in front of puck with wild abandon. One of the stalwarts of the Torts’ Era who was gifted a great deal for him but not the team from Uncle Glennie. End of an Era.
    .
    Please Staal next…

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  37. Klein with moving truck in front of house today; playing in Swiss next year. A lot of grit leaving the back line.
    Good thing Shatty is out there…

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  38. You know who else’s roster would suck if Stepan got taken? That said, I’ll still be OK if they sign Thornton for a year then Tavares next year if it happens.

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  39. Sad day, I will miss G. Honestly think NYR could have lived with him another year and should have tried to move Staal. A buyout next year economically much more palatable. And NYR should definitely get him back in the organization at some point.

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  40. “Leaving Stepan unprotected instead of trading him is a bad asset management. Unless Gorton has a deal with McPhee that prevents Stepan being taken.”

    Even then, why not protect him and make deal around protecting the player you would protect in Stepan’s place.

    Long story short, there’s zero chance he is exposed, and if he is exposed, management should immediately be fired.

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  41. “Girardi, 33, played 788 games with the Rangers, plus another 122 in the playoffs. The 33-year-old from Welland, Ontario, played through countless injuries, including three cracked ribs during the most recent postseason run, which ended in a second-round loss to the Senators.”

    900 games. I’m not sure how I missed that bit of info on the cracked ribs but I clearly did. Guy could get hit by a truck and keep walking.

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  42. Doodie

    i think we sign smith in next week or trade for a dman. i don’t think holden is worth protecting even though he would be ok as 3rd pair d. we will lose a forward or raanta not holden unless we make it worth it for vegas to take holden.

    i really hope we don’t go for shattenkirk in july.

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  43. I wouldn’t want to protect Holden either, but if he’s going to be here next year, you don’t want to send a message that you think he’s worthless, both to Holden (if you’re stuck with him for next year) and to the rest of the league (for trade purposes)

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  44. I think it is sad he is being bought out such a team player. #Imo. Staal play fell more than girardi. He played with acracked kneecap last season or for maybe 2 seasons

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  45. I think it is sad he is being bought out such a team player. #Imo. Staal play fell more than girardi. He played with acracked kneecap last season or for maybe 2 seasons

    Msybe he will end up in Columbus with torts as defense assistant

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  46. Just read this on facebook and I think it’s a pretty good question. How does a guy who plays top line and top minutes got bought out? Poor team management?

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  47. CCCP

    the rangers have 1 first pair d. someone has to be his partner. most on right side were more suited to be 3rd pair. that is on the management team not the coach.

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  48. There’s another answer C3- if not him then who? (Whom?) haven’t had many options.
    Shattenkirk isn’t the best dman available right now. Maybe the most attractive UFA come July 1. The more I see Gorton make moves the more trusting in becoming of his capabilities.

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  49. I think it’s safe to say all bets are off at this point. The blue line is getting rebuilt and not retooled which means any forward may move in a trade

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  50. I thought a subsequent move needed to happen, but I was wrong. If they stand pat without making any moves signings, they’ll protect Klein (even if he’s retiring – he can delay that decision I believe) and expose Holden hoping he gets grabbed. Kampfer can and will be exposed but doesn’t meet the minimum requirement of 40 games this season or 70 across the past 2. So he can’t be the sole exposure.

    I would prefer to take advantage of a team that doesn’t want to lose a solid young righty D for nothing, though. Bring on Jared Spurgeon!

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  51. 2 things:
    1. I never thought for a minute they’d buy him out because of years 2&3 on the buyout cap hit, I was wrong.
    2. I’m nearly brought to tears reading his statement and Zucc’s Instagram and realising that #5, as much as he’s declined, will no longer be a ranger

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  52. Teams that have invested big time in Corgis (Toronto, Arizona, Florida, TB come to mind) won’t touch him. But having said that, there will certainly be suitors looking for a 6/7

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  53. If he decides to play I agree w you Carp. A young team like Toronto or Edmonton would love to have a guy like him

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  54. Kind of heartbroken by the news. G was a warrior and everything that a hockey player and stand up human being should be. Right business move but it hurts. Standing O when he returns.

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  55. Henk from something called Instagram:
    hank30nyr: For 11 years you have left everything you had in front of me. The way you competed and paid the price night in and night out inspired me more than you know. Will miss you on and off the ice. To me you are the definition of a warrior and I will ALWAYS appreciate what you have done for me and our team over the years. Thank you G!!!

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  56. these players are something else

    OTTAWA – Ottawa Senators (@Senators) general manager Pierre Dorion announced that captain Erik Karlsson had surgery earlier today to repair torn tendons in his left foot.

    “Erik underwent surgery earlier today in Charlotte, N.C, to repair torn tendons in his left foot. The tears, which occurred during this year’s Stanley Cup Playoffs, were found during an MRI as part of an extensive medical evaluation following the season.”

    “The recovery from this surgery is expected to take approximately four months. This timeline leaves us hopeful that Erik will be fully recovered and healthy to start the 2017-18 regular season.”

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  57. Depends James. If keeping him and going 7-3-1 means needing to get 75 cents on the dollar for Ellis or Ekholm, its a tough choice.

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  58. Ok, let me see here…where to start….

    Dumb dumb dumb move buying out Girardi and keeping staal

    James,
    This has zero to do with skjeL. I’ve stated numerous times I would keep him over staal in a heartbeat and still would. He’s going to be a solid 2nd pair NHL D man on the left, if he actually competes like he did in the post season along the wall. I keep him over staal regardless.

    All that being said, if he’s the chip it takes to put a deal over the top to land a stud centre, top line fwd, or stud righty D…I send him packing immediately.

    Your obsession with skjeL is bordering on clinical.

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  59. Alex
    Lol. If skjel is the piece that puts a deal over the top for Galchenyuk (who plays wing currently) or another top line player, you absolutely move him to do it.

    Rangers need top line players, we all see that.

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  60. disagree Wicky

    you have a thing against Skjei and I’m not even his biggest fan and even i can see that.

    We need more help on defense not less. Everybody can see that.

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  61. Wick don’t get grumpy. I know it sucks shoveling snow in June but I was just breaking your stones😒

    If you want my serious opinion on why this buyout happened over buying out Staal I think it goes back to what I asked you yesterday before the Girardi news broke- to buy out Staal would leave the team with a couple addition years of dead cap space. and there may be more to it than we know in addition.

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  62. Daniel Girardi exemplified everything great in a hockey player.

    This is the beginning of the end of an era – the first “core player” of the Cupless Dynasty to go.

    If Dan continues to play hockey, it will be impossible to root against him. I hope he becomes the next Former Ranger to win a Cup.

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  63. Alex
    You are 100% wrong. Which you seem to be a lot when you are telling other posters what players they like and don’t like.

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  64. Don’t see Skjei getting moved ….young mobile cost controlled defenseman …Rangers we have much more forward than defensive depth

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  65. I’m with you Wicky and I’m stuck down here in St Pete, but it is all about family! I hate the heat. If I could move the entire clan north I’d do it in a heart beat! Really looking forward to see how Gorton will reshape the blue line. It is a must there is barely a breeze coming through the slightky open window. Lundqvist running out of time! Oh and by the way, Carp great write up on Danny G. thanks.

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  66. I still don’t understand why TSN is convinced that Stepan is expansion fodder.

    Also – Hank is certainly on the decline, but he’s still a #1 goalie. And his window of effectiveness can be extended if we have the right defense in front of him. Unfortunately the right defense doesn’t include Girardi. It certainly doesn’t include Klein, or Holden if he’s playing a meaningful role. And if you can limit Staal to 3rd pairing minutes, I think we can live with that and he might even enjoy a bit of a renaissance

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  67. I don’t get some of you, I really don’t. No one is untouchable. Everyone here laments the lack of top line talent, we don’t have a single first line forward on this roster, but you mention a good young d man as a potential asset to get that and you guys freak out lol.

    Good Adam Gravy, id move Kreider, miller, buch, vesey in the right deal for top line forward talent or the right young D man and I like yhisebplayers just like I’d move graves or skjeL for the exact same asset..and I like both those players too.

    You have to give to get you bunch of jackwagons and no one, least of all me, is trading miller and or skjeL for burrows or polak or cogliano etc.

    You guys need to get a grip. Thankfully some of you aren’t running this team.

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  68. Rooting for Jordan Speith and his special needs little sister, but I wonder if he has the length here since the nitwit powers-that-be widened the US Open fairways for the big hitters.

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  69. wicky229 ,
    The problem with so called “…right deals” is that you never know for 100% what is it when dealing with vulnerable humans. In times it looked like a “right deals”: Wade Redden – best offensive Dman on the market at that time, 2 best productive “clutch” forwards – Gomes and Drury, than taken a discount best center Brad Richards, etc. So, be very careful with a burning desire to move all and anyone in a hope for get better, just for a sake of it or out of season’s end disappointment. Not to mention you don’t do it in a bulk…

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  70. no one is untouchable but Ranger defense rather than offense needs improvement and moving Skjej for RH young defense may not improve it either

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  71. I believe it is time for the Rangers to start getting the best of their trades. I hated to see BGB go but I believe we got the better of the deal. I trust Gorton knows what he’s doing and we will continue to get the upper hand. It’s time for things to start going right for this organization. Wicky’s right you have to give to get. It just needs to be the right deal that favors our boys no more desperation moves JG!

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  72. I’m OK with them moving Stepan in the right deal, but they are going to have a gaping hole down the middle if they do not get a center back.

    I said gaping hole down the middle.

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  73. Remarkably, Girardi never won the Steven McDonald Extra Effort Award, an honor meant for players of Girardi’s makeup.
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    But Zucc won it 12 times and he’s little and cute and tries hard.

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  74. For all their seeming inconsistency and struggles, NYR were 4th overall in goals per game during the regular season and 3rd in the playoffs. They were middle of the pack in goals against in both. To me, the bigger need to upgrade is on the blue line.

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  75. I have a question for those whose knowledge is strong in terms of the CBA and the buyout rules and regulations. It is out there, but bear with me.

    Let’s say that Dan Girardi does not get a contract offer that is worth his while (whether it be years and/or salary). Are there any CBA/buyout provisions that stop him from going back to the Rangers and saying he’d sign a one year deal for a Tanner Glass salary ($1.4 million)?

    First off, I would bet he would get better offers than that, but it is an interesting question in terms of a strategy that a team could use.

    Why would the Rangers do it? well, it buys them a year in terms of retrofitting the defense. It gives the kids a year to develop (including this year’s 1st if they take a d-man). They effectively lower Girardi’s cap hit from $5.5 million to $4.0 million – and it keeps them from giving a really bad contract to Kevin Shattenkirk, who is going to get one of those deals that will turn out to be good to alright for a couple of years and then hang around a franchises’ neck like an albatross.

    I know this is way out there, but I was just wondering if there is a loophole or did the NHL make sure there is no wiggle room?

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  76. They wouldn’t be able to re-sign him for at least one season. Not sure if the rules changed after the last CBA to make it longer, as I couldn’t find anything specific.

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  77. I’d rather spent a year in 5th than deal with 4 more years of Stepan and his unmovable and cap constraining salary.

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  78. And I love Girardi. On a Graves like level. But this core NEEDS to be broken up. im hoping Gorton really impresses over the next two months

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  79. Alex
    Who said less D?!

    If you trade one D man but end up with two or three along the way…isn’t that more D?!

    You are one odd duck between your mcilrath fetish and lack of reading comprehension.

    So if we trade/lose/buyout Klein or Holden or staal or Girardi, we aren’t losing a D man, but if it’s skjeL…omfg the team will lose D and be in a shambles.

    Zero logic, just zero.

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  80. I mean Jesus Christ, some of the jackassery here, just wow!

    You have a d man that has played one full season in the NHL and until the playoffs hadn’t shown he could win a wall battle or cover a 3 year old in the D zone. He definitely has upside and can certainly be a solid 2nd pair D man in the NHL and is still on a favourable entry level contract, but to freak out over the fact that he could be traded to improve the roster in one capacity or another is just, well you need to grab your colouring book and juice box and head to your safe space.

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  81. Bully people much Wicky? I can see with an attitude like yours you’re used to people caving in.

    This defense is in shambles and you want to trade our 2nd best dman. They need to go the other way. Trade a forward for some defensive help. I’m talking about one of the 7 forwards that we plan on protecting.

    I think you might actually agree that Shattenkirk is not the answer.

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  82. I agree you trade from positions of strength/depth (in the rangers case wingers and lefty D men) to fill areas of weakness/lack of depth (in the rangers case righty D, top line forwards, 2 of the 4 centre positions).

    Not in to giving any player away for nothing regardless of how I “feel” about the player. Also have ZERO problem trading any player to address a need of this team regardless of how I “feel” about the player.

    No one is untraceable

    Yes I agree no shattenkirk.

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  83. Alex,
    Now, regarding your “bully” statement…you clearly know nothing about me aside from a screen name, game of thrones avatar, and hockey blog opinions. I apologize if calling it how I see it because of how some respond incorrectly to a post I made offends you.

    To tell me how I feel about a player and then get indignant when I rightfully tell you that you are incorrect, well I’d say you’re being a bit to sensitive and you should probably just apologize for being incorrect about what “I feel” and move along to another discussion topic other than telling fellow posters how they feel about a certain player.

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  84. these are the words of a bully. certainly not the first time you’ve done it wicky

    “well you need to grab your colouring book and juice box and head to your safe space”

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  85. So Alex can proceed to tell other poster how they “feel” about a player…that is perfectly ok, but to call him on it is being a bully…lmmfao.

    A perfect example of what is wrong with the world today!

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  86. and those words are exactly why most people don’t bother actively disagreeing with you wicky.

    it’s not worth it.

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  87. James
    It wasn’t an issue at all initially, you and I were giving each other crap in our own loving way and then Alex thought it was a great opportunity to attempt to “pile on”, unbeknownst to him it was just you and I kidding around.

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  88. I have been putting together my various Draft blog articles when I came across something I never thought about before today. We all know the Rangers are making a 1st round pick for the first time since Brady Skjei in 2012.

    Incredibly, the Rangers have not had picks in the first, second and third round of the same Draft since 2009 when they picked Chris Kreider, Ethan Werek and Ryan Bourque. It is possible that streak could end next year if everything stays the same. The Rangers did trade a 2nd in 2018, but it is the one they acquired in the BGB/Zika deal. I would expect Gorton deals one of those picks to Vegas as a “bribe”.

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  89. Anthony

    and that’s a big part of not drafting a good dman other than Skjei since Staal. Some might say Del Zotto but i don’t.

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  90. I don’t want any more nice guys in our lineup unless they smiles out a minimum of 35 goals. We need some crazy bitches who just want to win. bite on and won’t let go.

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  91. Saddest I’ve been over any of the ranger departures. Sad day.

    Danny G was the best. Danny Gs heart in Kreider and he’d be lindros in his prime

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  92. Wow what a deal for Montreal. Wonder if this signals the end of Radulov in Montreal. Galchenyuk is probably getting dealt in the next 72 hours

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  93. E.J. Hradek‏Verified account @EJHradek_NHL
    E.J. Hradek Retweeted David

    The cornerstones of Cup winners can be found at center and on defense. Cup champions aren’t built on the wing

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  94. Would be nice James, I think it may be a bit of a stretch. Can’t imagine what would be going the other to land Trouba & Duchene!

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  95. I like Galchenyuk as a player too. You have to wonder if he needs a “change of scenery” or if he’s just what you saw this past season.

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  96. All you have to do is look at the caps and realize that just a superstar wing won’t get it done.

    Don’t have to be a NHL talking head or rocket scientist to realize that.

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  97. Strange thing about those caps though, the same talking head that said you need centres and D is one of the same ones singing the praises of the caps depth down the middle and of the caps D.

    Oh the hypocrisy

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  98. ‘Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant.’

    Actually, that means ‘Hail overlord, we who will die, they salute you.’

    Wrong person.

    Brother Dismas would hang you by your declensions for that one.

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  99. @Anthony: re return of bought out player – I don’t recall the specifics of it but do believe it is not allowed for some period of time, probably a full season.

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  100. According to a couple of québécois convos…a lot of questions about how much stepan could help the habs

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  101. Yzerman is amazing. A year ago Drouin was on track to net a trade return of a R3 and mid-level prospect. Not only did he outwait Drouin’s agent, but he actually got decent production out of that kid, got an absolute stud dman prospect in return, shored up his protected players and saved future cap space.

    Why do I have a feeling that Messier as GM wouldn’t exactly fare as well…

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  102. Man… A lot of the Rangers fans are straight up retarded! The sh!t they say about this Drouin trade! How Gorton is asleep and how he blew this trade and how we coulda had Drouin for Buchnevich and some picks!

    I don’t know why people say that Rangers fans are the most knowledgeable… it is CLEARLY not true.

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  103. I think you have to say Yzerman did a decent job but the Habs got hosed, unless the gamble pays off and the Sergachev kid’s a future top pair D

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  104. Sergachev is going to be a stud. Book it. Montreal got themselves a problem child in Drouin. They also gave away another top dman prospect (See Captain McD). I hope this bites them in the ass again.

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  105. Sign me up for 82 games of Buchnevich while healthy and playing w Zibanejad. Drouin for 33 million dollars on another deal with a ton on term? No disrespect but
    Let’s see him flourish in the Montreal spotlight before we go envying everyone’s shiny new toys as usual.

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  106. Now if Radulov becomes homeless as a result of drouin? I’d offer him a hot meal and a blanket in ny. But knowing how money crazed he is I’m guessing that’s not even a consideration by Gorton

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  107. “Gimme a hundred million schmillion dollars! And term. Lots and lots of term. 36 years. 55 years! Term for everyone! Lock out be damned”

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  108. Good morning ILB. C3 broke the blog, Wicky is a bully and Drouin should be a Ranger. That’s the last 24 hours in a nut shell (Skjeil?)
    😄😄😄

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  109. I saw the bully part…Amazing how people are capable of judging a person they have never met by reading their blog posts…
    Drouin for Sergachev? Jury is still out. And before everyone says how amazing Yzerman is as a GM, let’s wait until he’s done signing Johnson, Palat, adding a couple of D-men, and getting a back up goalie. Also, let’s wait until his team makes the playoffs next time.

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  110. I think everyone who comments here almost always offers a pertinent and interesting viewpoint or insight, be it right or wrong. The few malcontents who don’t inevitably fade away into insignificance.

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  111. Wicky at 2:01pm – If you remind me after the draft (or at least after I have my three articles done) I will look into it. I would say there are teams that could match the 1st round drought, not so sure about teams going as long as the Rangers without having picks in the first three rounds.

    Alex – You might get the Rangers drafting a d-man (a good one remains to be seen). I am leaning that way for the Rangers with Hague or Timmins (he’s a righty!), but I would kick them and other d-man to the curb if Eeli Tolvanen would ever drop. He is a 5-10/180 pound winger how has played the last two years in the USHL and has pretty much averaged a point a game there and in all of the junior tourneys. He also fits in with the Mass. Mob with the Rangers because he will be going to Boston College.

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  112. No thanks on Radulov. No thanks on Thornton, but I do understand the idea of a one year stop gap with him if they trade Stepan.

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  113. That’s what I’ve said (several times, I know). I would trade Stepan if it meant they would get Tavares next year, with Thornton as the one year fill-in. Otherwise, they really need to get a C back.

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  114. C3 where was that gem? The Stepan issue is his contract. Not going to start the debate on if they could get a “better” player at center but certainly someone who brings a different dynamic (and does so better than Derick Brassard)..

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  115. Gravy have you been trolling my Yelp account? 🙂

    I think preparing for Tavares is risky business until you know for a fact he’s done w the Islanders organization and is interested in being a Ranger. With that said I think you do everything possible to get him once there’s any indication of those things. Problem is Stepan has to be moved now.

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  116. If they trade Stepan, I agree they need to get a center back. One other option would be to get a good winger back, and then move Miller to center. Of course what they really need us to get a Dman back.

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  117. Theoretically they could play Miller at center and or bump Lindberg to full time third line services instead of making a commitment to a top 6 C if the plan is to bring Tavares in next year

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  118. Here’s something else we haven’t discussed much – would you resign Nash for a couple of years at a reasonable cap hit after this season? Or let him walk?

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  119. James, absolutely. What I’m saying (not clearly) is that if I had a crystal ball knowing that Tavares was the end game, then I trade Stepan for D or whatever the best return is. But with that unknown, I wouldn’t want to go with Miller as a C because I think his game is better suited for wing.

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  120. I’d have to see the FA class next year, but in a bubble, I’d consider re-signing Nash in the 3/$18M range. Don’t think I’d go above $6M AAV, especially considering the dead cap space they have to carry with Girardi.

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  121. Habs won that deal unless Driuin’s attitude holds him back. Be interesting to see how he reacts to Julien, who is a defense-first coach. It is clear that Galchenyuk does not fit, and that a guy like Stepan does fit the kind of player Julien likes. However, I would rather see Step go to MN for Dumba.

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  122. Good morning Bonehead GM’s welcome to Friday. I understand the need to get a center if Opie is traded. But the priority is still to fix the Blue line. If we don’t we are wasting what’s left of Lundqvists rapidly closing window. Could Miller handle the center position? I don’t think AV>Avoiding Victory would give him the chance!

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  123. I don’t know what the Rangers relationship with Nash is like. His situation will be like Eric Staal’s. He is going to get paid a lot less going forward and may have to hit UFA status after 7/1 to find out where the market is. If they offer him half what he is currently making will he sign without finding out if anyone will offer him more? Tough situation. Because of the cap they can’t overpay, but, he doesn’t want to leave money on the table.

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  124. No way Nash on his current output trajectory gets $6m per – will need a big production year; get the sense he may not want to play much longer.
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    Center minus Step (and prob Grabber to Vegas) could/should be:
    1C – Zika w/ The and Miller
    2C – Haze w/ Nash and VC
    3C – Oscar w/ Butch and Zucc
    4C – UFA Vet or Boo if he gets a chance w/ Fast & Glass (I keed)
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    Haze needs to become a top 6 center

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  125. ORF, you’re right. And next year probably isn’t going to be one of those year’s where a guy like Ladd strikes gold because of the lack of top end W talent on the market. Free agent class is much deeper at forward for ’18 especially on the wing. Nash isn’t going to be the first guy targeted. Still going to be in demand though.

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  126. Gravy just to give you a bit of an idea of ufa wingers next summer- names like Atkinson, Neal, JVR, Hornqvist and the list goes on.

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  127. The roster has plenty of forward depth if Step and or Grabber goes. If the young guns can take the next step and the defense can make a break out pass…

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  128. Tampa will be hamstrung by Stamkos’ injury proclivity and Cally contract as they have to sign Johnson, Palat and Sustr but have $17M in cap space.

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  129. Would have to think, if Stevie Y could do out it again, he would not have signed Tax Free. That contract has cost them Druion so far, and it could end up costing them others.

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  130. Why wouldn’t Taveras come to the Rangers. Loyalty to the Islanders? The team with no home, and no apparent direction? The team who in Taveras career has made the playoffs twice? I would think he would come running if he got the chance.

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  131. Miller is the one guy they could move to center that would actually be worse at faceoffs than Stepan. They would need to cryogenically engineer a 4C center out of parts of Rod Brind’Amour, Ron Francis, and Craig MacTavish to have a chance at winning a draw once in awhile.

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  132. BDL you’re right. But I convinced myself Stamkos wanted to come here last year too. Plus I’m not over the Michael Stone thing. Just can’t afford any more heart break

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  133. Didn’t even mention Evander Kane (don’t tell Eric) or Mark Stone, Gravy. best UFA class in recent memory. All younger than Nash and all going to get paid.

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  134. Yes, I’d be happy grabbing just about any of those guys. And Tavares 🙂

    They sure picked a good year to have $3M+ in dead cap space.

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  135. I also fail to see why Tavares wouldn’t want to come here. Doesn’t have to uproot his life, gets a chance to play for a real team in a real building that contends every year.

    Think about all the times he must say to himself…”Good God what the crap is Snow going to do next to submarine my team.” He’s going to run like hell away from the Islanders.

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  136. I just think that since this game is a business and you’ll have a 27 year old franchise player looking for his career contract there’s nothing that makes it a no brainer. 65-80 points a year don’t come easy in this league. I’d imagine teams could offer up enough to make up-rooting his life not so big of a deal.

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  137. teams and agents planning for next lockout. note dip in 4th year. not as dramatic as what some others will do.

    Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun

    Year by year breakdown of Drouin contract:
    6.5M (1M SB), 5.5M, 5.5M, 4.5M (2M SB), 5.5M and 5.5M.

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  138. Unfortunately it doesn’t seem you can give incentive laden contracts in the NHL because of the hard cap. Because of that, I would let Nash walk for anything more than $4 per year, max 3yr. We can talk about how great all the other parts of his game have been (when on the ice) but the bottom line is you get paid those kind of big dollars to score goals and he has only done that in one season with the NYR. Nothing against him, he’s a nice guy and handles himself professionally, but this is a business.

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  139. thank God we didn’t sign tax free

    Joe Smith‏ @TBTimes_JSmith

    #TBLightning Yzerman declined to say whether they asked Ryan Callahan to waive NM clause for expansion. Would have til 5 tday to waive

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  140. Gravy
    I wasn’t lauding the Drouin $$$$ by any stretch. I was having a convo with doodie, I think, quite a wile back and we were talking about how it seems the ” going rate” for skill forwards seems to be about $1 mil per 10 points scored.

    Yes, I think Stepan is overpaid.

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  141. Anthony
    Sorry, I wasn’t implying you had to do that research. I was more musing about the topic. But, if you do….TYIA.

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  142. Wick I think we’ll see some action over the next 24 hours and I think we’ll see some things go down over draft weekend too. While I’m starting to put my full trust into Gorton’s decisions I’ll admit the irrational fan on my shoulder is getting kind of antsy.

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  143. Guessing Galchenyuk will be traded by the conclusion of the draft weekend if they’re going to move him.

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  144. Wicky’s boys were trapped on a hillside
    The battle raging all around
    The sergeant cried, “We’ve got to hang on, boys!
    We’ve got to hold this piece of ground.”

    “I need a volunteer to ride up
    And bring us back some extra men.”
    And Wicky’s hand was up in a moment
    “You just tell me when!”

    I heard his fiancee got a letter
    That told how Wicky died that day
    The letter said that he was a hero,
    But on Wicky’s stone it say:
    A hero is only a sangwich, but I did it my way!

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  145. Hog Posh about Yzerman not asking Cally to waive his NMC btw. Of course he did- he’d be a bad GM if he didn’t make that request. Callahan is 32, injury prone and making 6.4 million dollars a year. All that for 32 points in 91 games over the last two seasons. If it weren’t for that first rounder, we’re still winning that St. Louis deal and he’s been retired for 2 seasons.

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  146. When I reflect on Nash’s tenure with the Rangers I’ll remember:
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    The wide open net in OT during the finals against the Kings…
    .
    His useless weak wristers from the widest most ridiculous angles or from just inside the blue line…
    .
    His mostly eschewing the dirty areas of the ice in the o-zone..
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    Lucic standing over him daring him to get up in the PO’s verse Boston..
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    His extremely short shifts…
    .
    His spin-o-rama back hand move which he used often but rarely put the puck on net with..
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    His ridiculous cap-hit.

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  147. i think they’re probably kicking the tyres on a Step trade to see if its worth it before 1st July, because then he’s a Ranger for at least 2 years if not more. If the return is a top pair righty D, they are a bit harder to find and they probably hope Zibanejad will usurp Step as #1C in the next 2 years anyway.

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  148. Luckily Gorton is much higher on Stepan than some of us, it appears. He has time, no reason to trade him for low return. Has to be a hockey trade, or I’d keep him.
    For people who asked before, one year rule of not being able to resign a player by a team that buys him out applies to the compliance buyout only.

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  149. With the protected list set they should only make a trade that will make the team better unlike a few teams (Anaheim) who could lose a top 4 D for nothing so need to trade or lose someone who would normally get them a great package in return (Vatanen), but in this instance might just get them a pick and prospect

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  150. On Nash, you’re also not remembering

    Trying to beat 2 or 3 defenders without even thinking of passing (Emphasis on trying, no emphasis on thinking).

    Giving up the puck in the corners or along the wall anytime someone gave him a nasty look.

    Having a one-timer that invariably found the middle of the goalie.

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  151. Turris played like an All-Star against Ranger centers including and especially Stepan, who had a hard time keeping up with him. He (Turris) was invisible for most of the Penguin series ( except maybe on the PP). Obviously, the Rangers have a huge gap to bridge before they are able to compete with Pittsburg in a playoff series.

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  152. Wicky – No apologies needed. Just wanted to let youse guys know I am on the case, but it will take some time. I have to admit that I seem to have caught the writing bug for the first time in a looong time. I guess between the Rangers having a 1st round pick (at least for now) and having come to terms with what has happened in my life, I have the juices back.

    I will be spending the weekend putting the finishing touches on three draft articles. One gives a brief (well, brief for me) history of the Rangers drafts at #21. The second is the Rangers Draft Preview (I even have a couple of sleepers for late in the draft). The third is the Mock First Round. I might do a Mock Second depending on time.

    If anyone has suggestions on the Rangers pick I am all ears (guess I should say eyes). Also, if you promise not tell anyone, I am willing to e-mail a copy of the International Scouting Service 2017 Draft Guide.

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  153. Recovery good, James, thank you. Wedge from the woods back to the fairway, seven iron to the middle and 2 putts. I’ll take the bogey. 🙂

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  154. ‘Zona in on Stepan. Maybe Connor Murphy is a target? Solid young righty D who’s signed to a pretty friendly long term deal. We’d need more Though – he’s not in the Trouba/Vatanen category, or even Dumba

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  155. I would definitely consider Step, 1C, for Murphy + something. I paid a lot of attention to not Daniel early last season for fantasy purposes. Solid Dman who’s going to get better. Good call mentioning him, Dave.

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  156. Maybe the Arizona target OEL? Trades expected before 3 deadline today. With Stepan the deadline in July 1, so today may not be his day.

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  157. Thanks Booby. Not the sexiest name out there, and Murphy doesn’t (at least currently) fit the bill as someone who can slot in next to McDonagh right away. If they’re dead set on getting rid of Step, Murphy + R1 (I would take next years…this draft is bleh) wouldn’t be terrible. Or Murphy plus one of their good youngins.
    If Step won’t be moved unless we get a first pairing RD right now – this trade prob doesn’t happen.

    I’d LOVE to get OEL, but realistically we’d need to give up wayyy more then we have available.

    Personally I think if a trade has legs (with Arizona or anyone else) it happens before the freeze today at 3. Step has until July 1, but if we make zero moves today, we miss an opportunity to protect whatever D we acquire, plus use Stepan’s slot on Grabner or Lindberg.

    I might also watch for a Raanta trade today.

    If nothing happens, we’re going to be making it rain picks and prospects on Vegas to make them pick Holden. But if they think they can get more return on guys after the expansion on Draft Day, sure. I trust gorton.

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  158. Sounds like Holden is going to be protected. If it’s Murphy, there would have to be more coming the Rangers way.

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  159. First article this morning from the coyotes beat is very pro-Step, says that Strome and assets should be made available.

    Honestly if they could get Strome and Murphy…jeez Louise. Toss Cody Franson or Mike Stone a 2-year deal as a stop-gap while Murph grows into the role.

    Though my one concern would be…does Murphy project as a first pair guy? If Strome is made available it’s a moot point, because getting a center prospect like that is something we’ve been dying for.

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  160. Also have to say – Stepan is one of my favorite Rangers. He has his faults, but he’s a talented, fairly-consistent two-way center who you KNOW will leave and start pitting 90 points a year.

    The face offs are an issue. I skating as well (though I think he gets from point A to point B just fine). He had a pretty disappointing post season.

    But I also think we tend to be hard on our players. He never put up the.l numbers that would’ve shut us all up. He also plays in a division that boasts centers like Crosby, Malkin, Tavares, Giroux, Backstrom (side note: not a Backstrom fan…if you switched him and Derek, Derek would be universally praised as a Selke candidate and star, and we’d be bitching while Backstrom pots 45 points playing with Nash)

    anyway, On a team that has a need to shake up the core, and has some big holes to fill on D and on the farm in general – I endorse any trade involving Stepan that makes us better.

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  161. Good point ILB. It’s always fascinating to see what the other side thinks, right? I love Stepan, but I’d be hard-pressed to find a team that “didn’t have enough” to trade for him.
    The article also states that the Rangers don’t have any “bad contracts” that they can absorb to drive down the price tag. Which is definitely their MO. And I guess when you think about that in terms of cap hits sans salaries like Datsyuk, we don’t. But I can think of a rough contract or two that I’d love to be out from under…

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  162. Mark Pysyk a decent trade target if Florida can’t keep him. Young righty, a modern-day defensive dman who can skate and carry the puck.

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  163. I wish Erik. That’s not enough for Kate Mackinnon solo.

    If we want both – Kreider or miller is in the deal. And you know what? I might be down. I’d give up our R1 this year, to be honest. Late R1er in a weak draft.

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  164. Maybe so Eric. Especially if the right deal isn’t in place. There’s really no NEED to get rid of him.

    I just think that there are some big opportunities in the way of young right-shooting defensemen that are presenting themselves solely due to the expansion draft. Deals for Dumba (Bowling for Burgers?), Vatanen, possibly Ellis or Trouba – those go away at 3pm today. Arizona and Carolina are ones with legs that have a window open till June 30th (as well a dozen other options that haven’t even occurred to us because we’re focusing on the expansion restrictions).

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  165. new thread please

    regarding the arizona article just how slow is hanzal?

    “What these numbers show is that Stepan could fill the same puck controlling role Hanzal provided, while giving Arizona more speed and puck skill in arguably the most important position on the ice

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  166. Step with 90 pts – officially spit out coffee on that one only to be followed by NYR with no bad contracts – Staalled?
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    Step and Staal for Murphy, Strome

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  167. If the Coyotes idea of a 1C was Martin Hanzal, no wonder they’re salivating over Step.

    Staal would do well in ‘zona.

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  168. Interesting per LeBrun – teams waiting for unprotected lists so they can work out trades where Vegas picks the guy they want and then flips him.

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