Free Agency… It’s Go Time!

NHL free agency opens at noon. Someone get Eric a Life Alert necklace. “HELP, the Rangers signed Nick Bonino to a 5 million a year contract and I can’t get up!”

The Rangers have about $18.5 million in cap space (assuming Klein retires) and have to add the following contracts:

  1. Re-sign Zibanejad and Fast
  2. Backup goaltender
  3. At least one defenseman, should be two, but could go up to three if Klein retires.
  4. Fourth line center
  5. Either a first line center, top six winger, or third line center, depending on how the team wants to deploy Zibanejad, Hayes, and Miller.

Some names that the Rangers have been linked to leading up to free agency are as follows:

  1. Kevin Shattenkirk (sounds unlikely)
  2. Nick Bonino (sounds likely)
  3. Joe Thornton (sounds possible)
  4. Patrick Marleau (sounds possible)
  5. Ondrej Pavelec (sounds likely)

In an ideal scenario, I would offer sheet Parayko at the top end of the Two firsts, a second, and a third round pick love of the RFA compensation scale. I think he’s an absolute stud. But of course, no one ever offer sheets anyone so it’s just a pipe dream.

So what would I like to see this year? The more I think about it, the more I want to sign Thornton and Marleau, while staying away from guys like Bonino and Hanzal. The idea is to retool rather than rebuild. Thornton and Marleau allow our younger players to continue to develop in lower line roles while keeping us competitive. Because of his likely contract, I would avoid Bonino like the plague. Hanzal would be the next Bobby Holik, except he would be a worse player in a hard salary cap.

I’d probably be out on Shattenkirk, not because of him as a player, or because I’d be worried about his contract in a vacuum (considering we will likely have an amnesty buyout to use after year four), but because signing him will prevent us from adding the rest of the pieces I would want to add.

We do, however, still need to add at least one right handed defenseman. I’d suggest trying to go short term on a guy like Cody Franson but that may be unrealistic. If all else fails I’d go very short term on Dennis Wideman or, if he doesn’t retire, Mark Streit. Outside of that, it is going to be ugly, which brings me back to Shattenkirk. We might be better off just biting the bullet and buying him out after year four.  No matter what, we aren’t going to be happy, unless Shattenkirk takes an enormous discount to come to NY, which is very unlikely.

Some depth targets that I’m interested in are Mikhail Grigorenko (about whom I’ve read a lot of good things), Alex Chiasson, Nail Yakupov, Alex Burmistrov, Matt Cullen and Brett Connolly.  Depending on other moves, I would potentially be interested in Radim Vrbata, Sam Gagner. I’d also be interested in Brian Boyle (aka BRAN BOLE), but I think there’s no way he comes back to NY with AV as the coach.

For backup goaltender, I’d run, not walk, away from Pavelec. He is not an NHL goaltender.  I’d rather sign an unknown like JF Berube than sign a known terrible goaltender like Pavelec or Niemi. Ultimately, I think the best bet for a backup goaltender (since the worthwhile UFA targets all seem to be accounted for going elsewhere), would be to trade for one. Carter Hutton, Alex Stalock, Aaron Dell, Peter Mrazek (at 50% retained salary), Louis Domingue, or Jusse Saros are some options there.

***UPDATE*** As per Bob McKenzie, Pavelec to the Rangers is a done deal. It’s not even noon and they’ve already made a huge mistake. As Dan Rosen points out, they will need 10-15 wins from their backup. Pavelec isn’t even good for 15 wins in the AHL.  Someone check on Eric.

See you all on the other side.

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554 thoughts on “Free Agency… It’s Go Time!”

  1. I’m VERY happy for Girardi that he’s obviously going to land on his feet and make out very well. But I would’ve bet my house that he was in line for a $1m deal somewhere to be a 6/7.
    So…he lines up with Braydon Coburn? Those two will be a combined minus-800 on the road.

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  2. Could never wish ill on Girardi. Wish he was not going to Squirrely Bowman land though. I have developed a strong dislike for the Tampa franchise. I would sign up for the Thornton/Marleau to brioche the gap, and I would sign up for Cullen to be 4th line C. Problem with that is AV would have him playing top 6 in no time.

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  3. Today’s the day for Kevin shattenkirk to go into ranger lore. Get to make a dream come true and never have to pay for dinner/drinks again

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  4. I’m with you JPP. Cmon Spocknkirk – take a little less and be one of those guys who actually wants to build a winner.
    If he signs a 3-year deal he will still go UFA at a point in his career where he can get huge dollars.

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  5. If Cullen plays this year it will be with the Wild. They want him, he is a fan favorite, and his kids can play and watch as many games while going to school.

    He’s at his lake cabin wondering if he wants to play a 20th season, or go out on top. I say he plays for another 2M He still has the wheels and a 57.5% face off win percentage. 19 minutes played in Game 6 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

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  6. I’ll say this about the Information Age – it really negates the element of surprise. You know who’s being drafted on the walk to the podium. You know who’s signing where, well before FA opens.

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  7. If we had an opening on the left, I would sign Hunwick like a shot.

    If I’m Shart’s agent, I’m saying “Take the bit money. Lockout in 3 years – you’ll get bought out. THEN you can sign with the Rangers”

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  8. hopefully only 1 year for goalie. We’re going to have to track this years draft class quite carefully.

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  9. Not a Rangers news but, did you guys hear that Panthers are apparently no longer interested in Jagr? Mmm…

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  10. AV can’t bench him any more.

    Elliotte Friedman‏Verified account @FriedgeHNIC 7m

    Adam Clendening, who played w/NYR last season, looking like he’s headed to ARIZ

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  11. Last time there was a two year window to go through with the buyout. Richards was bought out in the second year, for example. If they have that again, I’d imagine they would let Shattenkirk play year 4.

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  12. Wasn’t there a rift between sharp and Keith and wives. Guess patched up if he’s resigning in Chicago for a year

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  13. With every 35 and over signing the Rangers make, the Stepan trade becomes worse and worse.
    RR2,
    I would be very surprised if the Rangers signed any Dmen ( other than Shatennkirk) they have stated they want to get younger back there, and have quite a few guys knocking on the door.
    Also, Franson sucks.

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  14. Stop with stepan trade being worse and worse. We weren’t winning with him at 4 more yrs at 6.5 with a no move clause. At end of day it’s about a cup nothing else. We’ve seen the rest

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  15. If Tampa is committing second-pair money to Girardi, and already have Stralman, Shattenkirk doesn’t make much sense down there. Especially with Sergachev as a sure fire stud.

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  16. BDL

    you are completely focused on this year only.

    the deal was made with years 2, 3, 4 in mind and the future hence the top pick.

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  17. Doodie
    Nice intro

    Should have bought out staal, not Girardi. Oh well, woulda, coulda, shoulda.

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  18. It is about the cup and nothing else. Eliminated in the first round or finishing in 10th place in the conference…no difference.

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  19. Weirder things have happened though – Shat is only 28 and a skill player. Just playing devils advocate and not endorsing long term.

    He has two viable choices – go for the 7 and 7 deal, which will likely be his last major contract. If he wants to continue past that, he’s in 1-year land as he’ll be 35. Or he can take a nice 3-4 year deal from us, and hit he market again while still commanding top dollar.

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  20. That’s where you are wrong Alex. If I was about this year, I would be all for Thornton and Marleau. I don’t want any part of those guys, or Shatennkirk and any of the other god awful Dmen people are talking about. When the waived Girardi and traded Stepan, they pulled the plug. Now they are try to put the plug back in. Screw that. Go all in. Trade Nash, trade Zucc. Hand the team over to the young vets.

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  21. Doodie
    Yes, you are correct. Draft position improves.

    Other than that zippo difference and imo unless you get top 3 pick in most draft years, it doesn’t matter.

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  22. So when the Coyotes play their first game at MSG, Clendening won’t be part of the video tribute to Stepan? (s)

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  23. BDL

    i don’t think they’re getting the san jose guys.

    I would have sat on girardi for 1 more year to lower the buyout cost and years.

    they are not trading zucc and he would not bring the 1st pair right dman.
    they are not trading nash until deadline – if we’re out of it and i think we will be.

    missing the playoffs one year is not the end of the world.

    the stepan deal is about the future not this year. it was a good deal.

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  24. Doodie
    On your depth forward chart, I like all of them except the last two.

    I’ve also changed my mind on the 2nd Hayes, id take a flyer on him.

    When we traded talbot a couple of years ago many here we mad as hell when we didn’t trade talbot to Florida for Hayes (you can look back and see the posts). He wasn’t great obviously in Boston but that franchise has had some issues the last couple of seasons…I think he’s worth the chance.

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  25. If hanzal is going to Dallas, then I’d try to get Marleau and Thompson to fill centre positions. Thornton I would be a little higher on if it wasn’t for his knee injuries.

    Bonino is the longest stay away from pole as a forward that is available…like a 100 foot pole

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  26. Rangers had to buy out Danny G. If he were still here, AV would have played him first pair minutes all year. Gorton gad to do this to get him away from AV. Same with Stepan.

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  27. Ken Wiebe who covers Winnipeg hearing pavelec ranger deal 1 yr 1.3. Should be 800k as I think he’s horrible

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  28. This years model

    with or without girardi we’re not making the playoffs this year. I was looking down the road to lower amount and years of buyout.

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  29. Wow some of you guys are going to need Ativan before noon even gets here. These two option of sign people for the sake of signing or just tank the season probably aren’t the ones on the table down at MSG this morning. just sayin..

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  30. Went through the same thing last year. some of us shaved years off our life expectancy stressing the Gerbe, Jooris, Clendening signings. And look how well those worked out! *zing!*

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  31. Anthony DiComo‏Verified account @AnthonyDiComo

    Happy Bobby Bonilla Day, everyone. The Mets will pay him another $1.19 million today and every July 1 through 2035.

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  32. I think the bigger problem in a encore of B. Boyle is his cap hit will be more than what NYR are willing to pay. On Thorton, I’d be ok with a two year deal as I think he would help the young ones better develop their games and maturity. But I would be surprised if they got him to come here.

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  33. Don’t pair him with Donuts and force #27 to do all the ‘get-back’ D. Captain has to be let free on O, just as Shatty. Each needs a defensive orientated partner.

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  34. As long as shanty doesn’t play first pair, that’s not terrible term…$$$ ugh

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  35. 4 years is the key. 6.9 is more than I wanted to give him but I’m willing to bet the Devils offer made Gorton panic a little. still plenty of cap space and more to come with 7.8 from Nash coming back after this season

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  36. That’s a lot. But y’all have to be happy about term right? He’s worth the money for 4 years.

    Would’ve given him 5 years if he came down to 6.25

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  37. $6.9 is a lot, but 4 years and Nash coming off next year makes it tolerable. If the Rangers have 20% PP success as a result of having someone who can run one, it won’t be a disaster. Look at it another way……….Girardi’s replacement is Kevin Shattenkirk.

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  38. Don’t know how I feel about Shattenkirk yet. I started to warm up to the idea when I heard he was willing to take less to come here, but then we gave him 6.9, so I’ll probably end up back to hating it.

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  39. unoffical terms of Pavelec deal 1 year 1.3 million. Turn him into a stud trade him back to Winnipeg for Trouba. Steve Mason the next pariah up there

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  40. The term is HUGE. you overpay for UFA. That’s established. He’s a 5.75-6m player. But chances are he’ll go through the lifetime of his contract with no regression or deterioration of skills. He was kind enough to let us off the hook for 2-3 years where he’d probably be worth half his salary.

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  41. 6.9 seems steep, but he and Donuts together are 11.6 which is satisfactory for 2 young talents like that. As TYM said, we’re replacing Girardi which has to help.

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  42. Keep in mind if it’s 4 years 28 mill, yeah that’s a lot of money but he walked away from a reported 42 million dollar offer from Devils could have been 6-7 years. Term is the key. less term= more money. It’s a good job by Rangers @ 4 years

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  43. Frank Seravalli‏Verified account @frank_seravalli

    Talked to Shattenkirk camp. He hasn’t decided where he will sign yet, reports otherwise are premature.

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  44. Girardi’ replacement is Tony deAngelo, since Girardi should’ve been 6th. He makes under a million. We good.

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  45. I sure as hell hope the bonino reports are true, please go anywhere else

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  46. Although I greatly prefer my defensemen to have more than a modicum of defensive brashness and show quality in front of Hank, in this day and age Shatty is expensive for a reason.

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  47. Hawks trying to put one of their Cup teams back together. Sharp Saad….Plus Pominville to BUFF. Who says you can’t go home again?

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  48. the clock in my car is set at July 1 2007 for some reason…I know we need 2 centers but I sure hope we’re not going back to the future…
    just say No…
    brought to you by the Drury/Gomez everlasting nightmare committee

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  49. Larry Brooks‏ @NYP_Brooksie

    Told that Shattenkirk is in fact willing to leave millions on table to play for Rangers.

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  50. So if the jackets are willing to include a guy like Murray in a duchene deal, how can the rangers not be in on a deal for him?

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  51. I thought I saw an official report on Klein yesterday…but I might have misread it

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  52. Duchene and the Avs couldn’t make the playoffs with no d. Same thing if he came here and we traded our 2nd best dman

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  53. Brian Boyle, another player the participation award coach has alienated…guy just hates centres

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  54. Fast and furious…146 players will move in first 15 minutes, the rest of the day we wait for news from the hospital on Eric

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  55. Rob
    But not duchene because you can’t trade a D man from the rangers for him

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  56. LOL Shatty was going to take 6.9 til he found out Tampa was giving Girardi 3 mill. now he wants 9 probably

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  57. Gut check time for Shatty. You want to cash in or you want to try to win while still being a millionaire?

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  58. I wish Karl Alzner gave the honest answer when asked why he signed in Montreal. “Well guys, they were willing to pay me $1MM more per year, so I decided to come to Montreal.”

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  59. Everybody is signing with eveybody but the Rangers while we still have a swiss cheese of a lineup lol… maybe Gorton isnt so good?

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  60. I am trying to figure out who is running the TSN Free agency blog. Seravalli reports Colin Wilson gets traded to Colorado and the TSN blog keeps referring to colin miller

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  61. Nilsson Schmilsson, Chad Johnson, and Bernier all got in the $2.5m – 2.75m range. We got a bargain in Pav.

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  62. That’ll happen when you sign a goalie that lost his starting job on a non playoff team and then got banished to the minors lol but I like it

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  63. SJ just signed Pickleman to a 8 year $7m per extension just as teams are negotiating with Shattenkirk. #bastards

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  64. To paraphrase the Movie “War Games”, the only way to win free agent frenzy is not to play. Let Gorton sign a couple of minnows while other teams waste their cap space on the “whales”. Cap space is good to have when teams have to start moving contracts.

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  65. A lot of $$$ to be added here…need to trade one or two before or bridge deals abound

    Nash’s $7.8 comes off next year, but Skjei, Miller, Hayes, Vesey will be RFA’s…

    From brooks twitter

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  66. He tasks me. He tasks me and I shall have him! I’ll chase him ’round the rinks of Toronto and ’round the Arizona Maelstrom and ’round perdition’s flames before I give him up!

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  67. TTSN with the big trade report ….

    1:02pm – We have a trade…relax, it’s not a big one: The Bolts have sent Kristers Gudlevskis to the Islanders in exchange for Carter Verhaeghe.

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  68. “Then come home again so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self control” -Corinthians 7:5

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  69. James
    Is that a quote from something? What is 7:5? Odds?

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  70. Sad to see Boyle go to NJ. I would have paid that number over two to get the versatility. Bonino to me a little high but not absurdly so. Not like they gave him Hayes’ bong.

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  71. Would’ve taken Colin Wilson, absolutely.
    Fowler extension $6.5m for 8. These guys are really picking a great time to set the skilled D market.

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  72. Why do I get the feeling that the blogosphere that’s been trashing Dan Girardi for 5 years will call his signing “sneaky-good” ?

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  73. Do the contract extensions signify players not re signing (in sj) and maybe a d man trade (in Anaheim)?

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  74. I probably would have sent a 4th for Colin Wilson if I were Gorton – even though he isn’t really a center. He could play 3rd line wing and allow us to move a forward for a center of d-man.

    FYI – Eric good thing you don’t have TSN on because they are going to be face timing with Del Zotto next.

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  75. Eric I dont think those deals change much. If he wasnt considering taking less the deal would be done to NJ by now

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  76. Bob McKenzie: Marleau generating significant interest, perhaps some with three-year term. Interested teams believed to include ANA, DAL, NYR, TOR. SJ, too

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  77. Hasn’t Fowler been on the trading block for like 2 years? Where the hell do the cash strapped Ducks get off signing him to that deal? Great ceasar’s ghost!

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  78. Dave – inflation.. but most of these are probably no more than 1M too high? And overall the terms look reasonable too

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  79. There are always going to be a fair number of your low money, low term, low risk signings. Your reclamation projects, youngins, etc. But my feeling is that we’ve seen a lot of the middle of the road guys get a bit too much. Girardi for $3m? Same for Hainsey – a guy I wouldn’t take for $925k. Most backup goalies going in the mid-to-high 2’s. Hanzal almost hitting 5. 36-year old Justin Williams the same. Gagner, Kulikov.
    But agreed – inflation. Combo that with a weak crop…oof.

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  80. We’ve either got a new Pope or I am working my laptop too much because I am getting puffs of white smoke 🙂 Seriously, I have had to reboot a couple of times because of all of the windows I had open.

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  81. It’s the usual supply and demand saga. middle of the pack guys gets overpaid and then teams extend their own players to obnoxious lock out inducing extensions because they know what said players will get once they hit the market. vicious cycle

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  82. Just checking in while I have a second. Thanks to Wicky for all the updates.
    So far all I can say about the signings is yuck! And glad none involved the Rangers. Back to work

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  83. Just checking in while I have a second. Thanks to Wicky for all the updates.
    So far all I can say about the signings is yuck! And glad none involved the Rangers. Back to work

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  84. Wicky remind me to bring a plastic spork to Eric’s so he can eat. They took all the cutlery from his kitchen just to be safe

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  85. Getting the feeling we are not coming away with any big ticket items (no returns, no exchanges). Might be the year of the kids, at least until the trade deadline.

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  86. Carp says “damn magnet ads”
    Translation
    I really don’t like you guys and don’t want to interact with you but feel obligated to pop in occasionally and interact

    😉

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  87. Frank Seravalli‏Verified account
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    Hearing Kevin Shattenkirk is going to the New York Rangers. #TSN

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  88. He must’ve been weighing this deal+ the childhood dream against 2-3 teams offering him 7-year deals, Possibly with more per year.

    He went for it! That’s gotta count for something in the character department.

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  89. Like the term, meh on price. If he is paired with mcdonut we have a problem

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  90. Carp, that’s why the Rangers brass told you it wasn’t true earlier: they were doing even better.

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  91. So we have 2 righty d men and both are not top pair…great

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  92. Before today, I was wondering if Shattenkirk would sign for four years at $5.5 million a year. After seeing the Vlasic/Fowler extensions, I never thought he would take less but he did. For that, he gets my praise.

    The problem is who plays with McDonagh and who plays with Shattenkirk? Maybe Smith with Shattenkirk and Skjei with McDonagh – unless you move Skjei for a young-ish right d-man.

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  93. I haven’t seen a player leave this much money on the table since that time we paid Brad Richards $7m a year.

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  94. It will be interesting to see if business starts to pick up now that Shatty has signed. Got to feel the NHLPA won’t be happy that he probably left some money and years on the table.

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  95. Anthony
    You can’t say that about skjeL here, Alex will flip out despite the logic.

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  96. Actually remember that time Dan Boyle left money on the table to play for us?

    At least he walked away with the respect of his teammates and whatnot. Not like those rat bastads Brooks and Cyrgalis!

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  97. TSN: 2:39pm – Thornton and Marleau remain unsigned, but Bob McKenzie says the Shattenkirk signing means they’re not headed to Broadway.

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  98. But then again – Skjei and Smith sit together in AP Chemistry.

    I don’t love McD and Shat as a pair, but it wouldn’t be insane if it happened.

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  99. Will be interesting to see where Thorton ends up. Also, I’m not sure about De Angermanagement. He could be a (small) chip in a move still to come.

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  100. Now that Shatty is here – look for Holden to be on the move. Makes more sense to have cheaper (and righty) Kampfer as the utility 7.

    Holden will probably get moved for a center. I still think Krüger is a decent target, if Vegas is okay with not taking him on for cap purposes.

    I would’ve given Burmistrov the $900k he got from Vancouver.

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  101. I know a lot of you aren’t keen on Thorton but he probably would have been a positive influence on the kids. Intangibles and all that. And would hardly be the worst guy on skates but price/term oh well.

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  102. DaveB – Will probably see a lot of McD and Shatty together late in games when the Rangers are trailing.

    With Marleau and Thornton out, maybe a Grigorenko as a 2017 version of Grabner and then looking for a faceoff demon for the 4th line (Jay McClement – he is a bot slow but his very strong on draws).

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  103. Assuming Holden gone, 6 million divied up between Ziba and Fast, Puemple on team and last 2 forwards/d-man are low-end (sub-million) salary, Rangers now have about 4.5-5.5 million in cap space. No cap room for T/M.

    Holden traded for lower end 3rd/4th line transitional C? Target a salary dump. Possibility or no? Leaves one center spot open and no, no ones getting a top line center for what’s left so going into this season with Ziba no. 1 and Hayes/Miller/? at 2/3 with Andersson longshot for 3.

    My opinion.

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  104. Much rather see a McDonagh/Shattenkirk pairing than a Skjei/Shattenkirk pairing. As much as Skjei has impressed in his rookie year, he still has a tendency to get the hiccoughs at inopportune times. Can Shattenkirk be any worse defensively over the long haul than Girardi (despite his ‘resurgence’) last year?

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  105. Beezle
    Not sure that includes Klein retirement…if that is legit

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  106. I’m going to go all Wicky on you guys right now. Would you now deal Skjei as the centerpiece in a Duchene deal?

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  107. Aneirin
    There were definitely 2 versions of skjeL last season…not so good defencively and lost way too many one on one battles regular season. Then the much better defencively and won a lot more one on one battles in the post season.

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  108. The Cap Friendly does not take into account a Klein retirement so we could have about $11.25 million. Don’t forget they still need a veteran 3rd goalie for Hartford (Jhonas Enroth? Reto Berra?). Better do something before Nashville corners the market in AHL goalies.

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  109. First Anthony now bdl going to suffer the Alex tantrum for being logical.

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  110. Brooksy also saying Skjei had to be the centerpiece if Tyson Barrie was on the table.
    Not…terrible if you ask me. But I bet Sakic would’ve wanted even more.

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  111. Jim Cerny @JimCerny

    Girardi told me he was on way to pick up son from school in Rye when Gorton called “it was tough to swallow, but I have no bitter feelings”

    ——–
    Girardi swallows.

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  112. Considering Shattenkirk could have gotten a six or seven year deal, he could have left anywhere from $13-$20 million – and that doesn’t factor him getting $7 million per season.

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  113. I’d take a top 4 D of mcdonut, trouba, smith, shattenkirk or mcdonut, Barrie, smith, and shattenkirk over mcdonut, SkjeL, smith, shattenkirk

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  114. I’m not sure about the legitimacy of shattenkirk being a top 4 D, a lot of “experts” say he is a 3rd pair guy 5v5 and a power play specialist. His best stl numbers reflect that assessment.

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  115. No on dealing Skjei. He has the potential to keep putting up Shattenkirk type numbers (40+ pts) and you just paid 6.65 per for that. Find another way to add a center!

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  116. Normally I agree with your thought on Skjei, Beezel. But sometimes you have to gamble on greatness. Duchene would be a guy you take that gamble with.

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  117. Joe vitale wouldn’t be a bad depth signing. He’d probably cost under 800k. Good insurance if Nieves isn’t ready. Excellent face off man.

    Grigorenko seems like the obvious play now. But only if you can get him for $1.5m tops.

    Brooks Laich might be an interesting reclamation project if he wants to bet on himself. And he’s 34.

    What about Jacob Josefson, lately of the swamp due west of NYC?

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  118. Before we anoint skjeL the next “great” d man, let’s make sure he isn’t del zotto v2.0. He put up offencive numbers but had d zone issues a lot in the regular season (just like del zotto in his first full ranger season).

    No one is saying, including me, he is a terrible player or won’t be a very solid NHL d man in a couple of years, but not a single reason to not include him in a deal that makes the team better in an area of need. Team is good to go with left handed d men with or without skjeL.

    Sell high and he is due for a new contract next year as well.

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  119. Skjei’s offense was surprising to me. He’s a good puck mover, but I wouldn’t Be surprised if he never approaches 40 points ever again. He’s a good modern two-way guy who’ll net you 30 points on the 2nd pair.

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  120. Putting aside the hole on defense you end up with if you trade Skjei for Duchene, Matt is on the final year of a contract that has an AAV of $6 million. So unless you are going to go to about $8 million or so on a longish term deal, then you are trading Skjei for one year of Duchene.

    Skjei for Barrie doesn’t make much sense either unless you are hellbent on getting a righty d-man. Barrie has three years at $5.5 million and Skjei gets a new deal after making $925,000. No reason to eat up the cap space for a smaller player who may or may not be better defensively all because he shoots right-handed.

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  121. Dave
    Grigorenko yes.

    I’d try and move Holden for 3C or 4C help at some point regardless of other moves.

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  122. Well, if Shatty isn’t a top 4 guy all the more reason to keep Skjei. Yes I know that the ROOKIE had an up and down season but that’s called giving him room to learn and grow into a player. I for one want him in the mix. Not a knock on anyone’s opinion just giving mine

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  123. Dave
    I’m am 100% in agreement in your assessment of skjeL. 2nd pair guy good solid all around NHL d man, not the left handed almighty.

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  124. The only problem with getting rid of Holden that leaves Kampfer as the 7th d-man. I am not too comfortable with that, especially because we could use a better defensive d-man as a spare.

    Shatty on NHL Network now.

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  125. If we were out on Shattenkirk, and Sakic offered us Barrie for Skjei straight up – I’d listen. And it would be a tough one…and I’d probably do it tbh.
    Now? Nah. And I doubt Sakic would’ve wanted a straight up deal, being what he’s been asking for in the Duchene talks (and that’s a player that I feel is massively overrated, and will be due a stupid chunk of change soon).

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  126. Unlike DelZ, Skjei is not having his chain yanked by Torts and Sather (yet). You all could be right and he’s a flash in the pan and never matures as a defender. But you guys sound a bit like the NYY of the past trading away their young, erratic pitching talent for the big name dujour and then wondering why the cupboard is bare and they are angry about the deal with the ‘big name’.

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  127. James
    Respectfully, if you think having staal, smith, Holden, skjeL, mcdonut, day, graves for the next 4 years is logical, so be it. No reason to sign shattenkirk at all and deangelo, ruannen, berezgalov, poink etc are all pretty much ahl roster fillers only.

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  128. Well if theyre holding onto Holden then the agenda now should be considering the buyout of Staal or trying to trade him for a bag of pucks. Gotta think that they’ll need between 6-7 for RFA purposes and then still have to find a center if not two

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  129. Beezle
    That’s exactly the point though, with good young lefty D, the cupboard is anything but bare.

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  130. I can live with Shatty for 4yrs, but him & McD should not be the 5v5 pair. Pavelec is trash, good luck shining that turd Benny Allaire. Hank better be healthy next year

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  131. And just think, AV can still preserve his favored Staal-Holden pairing for use late in games while protecting leads.

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  132. James
    Which is then the next point of you should have bought out lefty staal over righty Girardi regardless of the extra couple of seasons of cap penalty

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  133. Yeah well, Shart is only 28 and in 4 years all the millions he left on the table will catch with him.

    Also, I see you guys are ok with a Skjei type player making 7 million a year. Ok then…

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  134. Beezle – I think Skjei is going to be an excellent defender. I just don’t think his offensive game is going to be a consistent thing. Not that it needs to be – he’s just not that guy. Nor am I saying “he’s not an offensive guy, so get rid of him.” I just happen to, in this particular scenario, like Barrie a lot. But it was purely hypothetical and is no longer a real option.

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  135. The point is that IMHO you hold onto 23 y/o’s who haven’t reached their full potential yet. Especially when they’re making hardly any salary at all. You trade 30 year old injury prone dmen that have lost a step and make 5.7 million dollars a year.

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  136. Agree on the Pavelec signing, they could have done better for just a little bit more. Don’t know what they see in him

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  137. I believe Berezgalov is going to be a top 6 shut down type defenseman in this league. He and Day are certainly going to make a push if not this year than next. that’s why I’m not really concerned about 7th dmen. I think Staal and Holden should be out of the picture. You’ve then rebuilt the entire blueline from the core team with the exception of the captain. The elimination of Staal and Nash from this team brings you nearly 14 million dollars. that’ s enough for a top center and a top 3 RW that’s younger and healthier.

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  138. C3 he’s probably going to have Staal and Holden on the PP points with Shattenkirk on the wing across from Zucc. I hope he does. Lindy’s waiting in the wings now.

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  139. Mac to shatty back to mac over to zucc back shatty over to Mac back to shatty. He shoots wide clear the zone pp over

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  140. Thanks Eric for catching my Duchene contract mistake. Puts Skjei-Duchene deal in a different light, but Sakic would want waaay more so it is probably a non-starter. I think people are being a little hard on Pavelec – it isn’t like the Thrashers/Jets have been world beaters during his tenure with the franchise. With that said, would have preferred Niemi at $700,000 to save the fishnagels.

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  141. If skjeL was a righty, I’d be a lot less apt to deal him because of lack of righty D depth in the organization, but he’s a lefty with A LOT of lefty depth in the organization.

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  142. Anyhow, back to my song. *Piano plays in the key of G* “I’m comin home…I’m comin’ home….tell the world I’m comin home”

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  143. Day, graves, smith, mcdonut, berezgolov…after staal and Holden gone…still see zero problem with that lefty depth

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  144. LMAO Dave. Wicky- I see your point about the lefty depth. I just think Skjei has some time before we really see him at full potential. Trade the Ryan Graves’ of the organization if that’s the case. Regardless, I’m starting to trust how Gorton does business. I am interested to see how he solves the problem at center

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  145. Lol “Bonino had other offers at $4.5 mil per. Based on fit and tax hit Nashville made most sense.” Somebody forgot to remind Kirk about NYS taxes

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  146. James
    I posted my personal opinion of the lefty get rid of chart the other day, so you are well aware of what I would “like” to happen, but to not consider moving skjeL for a right d or top centre upgrade is just poor asset management imo.

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  147. James
    I agree re smith, at this point best option for mcdonut partner.

    Pet jay for me and let her know I am too re skjeL

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  148. So does skjeL get a bridge deal next off season? How much is his contract?

    When is staal moved? Is staal moved? Do the rangers buy out another vet d man in staal next season?

    What do they pay all the rfa forwards next season? Do they all get bridge deals?

    Won’t everyone that is a rfa next season want to start looking for contracts with lockout protection and not bridge deals?

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  149. 28 yr old center played in Washington last year. Made 575k

    Played 6 games for caps 0 points.

    24 goals in Hershey.

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  150. Just guessing but I’d imagine miller and Vessy will come close to the amount of nash’ salary in their next deals (combined)

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  151. Gorton sand his comments about addressing centre issue via trade and using miller as centre are pretty interesting from the speculation standpoint

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  152. All part of gortons plan, these transition years, but right now we just seem like a worse version of recent Rangers teams

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  153. Coos
    You realize the “high level” insider from the organization was the custodian who cleans the chase bridge right?! 😉

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  154. Have we signed staal to an 8 yr extension yet?

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  155. Rangers signing some ahl forward depth

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  156. Rangers (Gorton) plays it pretty close to the vest. They weren’t in on Hayes or Vesey, but, they wound up here. Tipping your hand only helps the other players. Still have hole(s) to fill at center. I doubt Paul Carey is the answer. He’ll have to pull another Grabner out of the hat unless they are counting on Anderson to make the team. BTW no one is leaving money on the table to play for the Knicks.

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  157. If they move miller to centre, I would guess it is 3C? With z pack 1 and hayes 2? As it sits right this second, then they need a 4C unless it’s andersson.

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  158. Wick, it always depends on what you’re getting back in return. I’m not saying that he should be untouchable just not the top asset I’d be trying to move. Let’s see what their plan is beyond the Paul Carey signing

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  159. If Miller moves to C you’re instantly deconstructing their best line from last year. Unless Vesey slides into Millers spot on Hayes’ LW with Grabner on the other side. I guess Miller would center Nash

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  160. James
    I couldn’t agree more. It absolutely depends on the return. You certainly do not trade him for a centre like moops or a RD like clendening.

    Quite honestly, the fact that we have to bring up “it depends on the return” (should be pretty freaking obvious to everyone that it depends on the return) is pretty sad.

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  161. James
    That couldn’t be the best line from last season, Stepan wasn’t on it 😉

    Too soon?

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  162. Next Mayor of NYC, hopefully a Ranger fan (finally), renames Central Park after our old stalwart top DMan, Brad Park.
    Park will be re-named either Brad Park, Park Park, or Brad Park Park.

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  163. It’s BereGlazov, folks…
    Shatn’kirk deal is a good one, no doubt (particularly on a background of others), addresses the needs of team and he sounded genuine constantly and often talking about his passion for Rangers. It counts. What else to wish?
    I have a feeling that Anderson will make a team coming season and be trusted to center 4th line to begin with.
    …it’s not over yet and I’m not sharing sentiment that Rangers will tank (total bull…) or not making PO.
    There is no bona fide 1st line center on the team and on the market, so, it is up to AV and teamwork to bypass obstacle and it is totally doable. Hope dies last.

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  164. Anyone feeling bad for Danny G, please note that he has cashed over 50 million dollars in NY Ranger checks and is now planning to cash another 6 mil from his new friends.

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  165. Is the Chris Summers the Pens just signed for two years the same that was on NYR for a brief while?

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  166. Oh no he dint!

    Brian Boyle @NJDevils conference call on facing #NYR: “I was booed there enough. I don’t mind pissing off that crowd a little bit”

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  167. Is there another buyout period this summer?

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  168. In the article bus stop just put out, he states the rangers might be contemplating an expensive buyout of staal to address their centre issue.

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  169. The kid wanted to play for the Rangers. He’s playing for them. Pretty impressive. I was against them going hard after him, but primarily for his potential contract. Sounds like he went hard after them. He’s a pretty good player, and he’s probably underrated defensively. You can move the puck, you can defend.

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  170. Wicky, yes. If Zibanejad or Fast file for arbitration, NY will have another 48 hr buyout window starting 3 days after the case is either settled, or a player receives an award.

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  171. Just got home and I see Shatner-Kirk is now a Ranger. Ok now what still need a center! What does Gorton do now? Eric you ok did you survive the day?

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  172. OMG… we are not going to hear the end of this “Life long dream” thing, are we?

    Listen to his inteview at the beginning. He didn’t have a clue where he was going until the last moment.

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  173. They have 5 young rfa’s next year and the only major contract coming off the books would be Nash. Girardi cap hit goes up by a million, Staal buyout this year would leave another 2.5 million in dead cap space next year so even with a elc contract replacing him we would only save 2 milion on the contract. Plus the next year his dead cap space would increase by a million and his cap would remain on the books for 8 years (depending on lockout). It would be an absolute killer to buy him out this year.

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  174. https://www.nhl.com/stars/news/free-agency-recap/c-290268066

    see how he describes stepan

    “Kevin Shattenkirk, defense, signs four years, $6.65 million per year, New York Rangers

    The Rangers shed themselves of aging veterans Dan Girardi (buyout) and Derek Stepan (trade) and then obtained the top free agent defenseman at a manageable cap hit and even more manageable term. Throw in a couple of young prospects and backup netminder Ondrej Pavelec and pretty good week’s work for GM Jeff Gorton. Great landing spot for Shattenkirk after a disappointing turn in Washington after the trade deadline.

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  175. Staal’s contract shifts from NMC to modified NTC next offseason. A nice bounce back year from him might entice someone to take a flyer on him. maybe you can pick up 50% of his contract and flip him for a low pick or minor leaguer, if he were to become a cap causality. So if his cap hit is $5.7m, that turns into a retained cap hit of $2.85m. If his replacement is, say, Ryan Graves, who has a current cap hit of ~$650k, then that move still saves us $2.2m in cap space, and without the problematic dead space until the year 2525.
    So if this happens, plus Nash and Pavelec coming off the books, we could have $11.3m in cap space for our RFAs. Grabner and Holden (if still around) give us another $3.2m. Add roughly $2m in cap increase, and we’re at $16.5 to resign Vesey, Hayes, Miller and Fast.
    Hopefully at that point one of the young goalies is ready for backup time, Buchnevich is a top-6, and Lisa is ready to break in, amongst others.

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  176. I survived all. Not thrilled about shatty because 5 on 5 we are going to have issues. However 4 yrs 6.6 a lot better could have been

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  177. Carp
    Great article. You forgot to mention former ranger Michael Haley going to Florida. 😉

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  178. Ilb
    Thanks for the info. Bus stop mentioned it in his article today and I was curious.

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  179. True Alex. For certain, someone goes by then. Whether it’s one of the aforementioned 2018 RFAs or a Kreider/Zucc

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  180. Dave
    Don’t forget the left handed almighty is also due a new contract after next season

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  181. the almighty lefty is a lot better than the righty that passed waivers a couple of times. oh but that’s right he’s a righty so that’s ok.

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  182. So when does game of thrones or marvel defenders start?

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  183. Ahahahahaha.

    Alex on his fetish kick again.

    Hilarious!!!

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  184. Still short of a couple of centers..
    Imagine if they signed Bonino? Nashville couldn’t beat so the decided to overpay him. Cervicable 3rd line center, but for over $4M? How about Hanzal? Yuck. Thanks, Mr. Gorton.

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  185. Ilb
    Yeah, couple of bad contracts for sure.

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  186. Alex
    Seeetheart, you really have no idea what you are talking about.

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  187. Alex
    I really appreciate all your attention (despite saying nothing different than what others have said) but you’re not my type.

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  188. Reread your posts. You’re the one with the fetish repeated ad nauseum.

    To a large degree I was following the busy day elsewhere. Then when I read the days posts here you have to mention me more than once yet and the left handed dman.

    you have issues. most bullies do.

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  189. i was simply letting others who mention trading skjeL to becareful because you freak out about it and then start throwing little tantrums and calling names.

    Not real tough for everyone to see.

    But it’s ok, keep up your little fetish. Free country.

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  190. You are really calling out yourself blog bully because exactly what you accuse me of is your own actions.

    I see right through you.

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  191. Common boys, stop picking each other’s nose… Each of you is quite good in your own way, it’s just a matter of opinions. Don’t mimicking the worst pattern in our country now. Enough of fighting – it is just a game…

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  192. Tough to find something original for you isn’t it lol.

    Perhaps next post you should just start with “I know you are but what am I”

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  193. I’d have no problem trying to sign Skjei long term – try and circumvent the bridge deal. If he would give us 6 years at $3m -3.25m per – slam dunk.

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  194. Dave
    I agree, id imagine he’d want lock out protection (as would I). Seems to be the smart thing players are doing now.

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  195. I wonder how many of easy peasy jimmy vesey, no Doritos, hated, and left handed almighty would accept bridge deals?

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  196. Lol a little too soon Wick. Stop making Opie a victim!
    Would be nice to see a true offensive center between Nash and Vesey. This being the last season of Nash’s contract I assume he’ll finally find magic with a center and have a powerhouse season

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  197. My god. The fact that I know who you mean by those nicknames confirms my suspicions that I’ve been blogging around here too much

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  198. James
    Lol. No such thing as here too long 😉

    Yes, definitely like to see a centre added. I’m at the point now that I’d rather see them add the centre via trade. Not sure of the centres left via free agency but any that might of helped seemed to be gone (some with not so good contracts today) except for maybe Marleau (can I make logical points more than once or is that bad?) who can win draws but at his age his contract would be on the books no matter what so it’s a bit of a risk.

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  199. Step for Lisa
    Step Cap Space for Shatty
    Girardi Cap Space for Smith
    Ranta for Da Angel
    .
    Still need to trade a winger for a center and buy out Staal.
    .

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  200. SN-i’d be good with Mike Fisher for one year. That means Carrie Underwood sings the anthem in a Rangers jersey right?

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