Free Agency Checklist

Before free agency began, I listed the following as the items the ones upon which the Rangers would have to spend their cap space prior to the season, either by signing or by trade:

  1. Re-sign Zibanejad and Fast  UPDATE: Fast re-signed for 3 years at $1.85 million AAV
  2. Backup goaltender
  3. At least one defenseman, should be two, but could go up to three if Klein retires.
  4. Fourth line center
  5. Either a first line center, top six winger, or third line center, depending on how the team wants to deploy Zibanejad, Hayes, and Miller.

So far, the team has acquired Kevin Shattenkirk ($6.65 million AAV x 4 years), Ondrej Pavelec ($1.3 million x 1 year), and (unofficially UPDATE: Desharnais signing has been made official) David Desharnais ($1 million x 1 year). Those three signings satisfy items 2, 3, and either 4 or 5, depending on how the team intends to deploy Desharnais.  I imagine he is being brought in like Pirri to play on the fourth line with opportunity on the power play. Unlike Pirri, he is less of a shooter and more of a set up man. Great, just what we needed on the PP: more passers.

You can read my post from 7/2 to see what I think of Shattenkirk and Pavelec. The really short version is I really like the Shattenkirk signing and really hate the Pavelec signing.

I’m disappointed that we weren’t in on Nail Yakupov, who signed a one year deal with Colorado on short money. There are still some other fliers out there that I’d like to take. Mikhail Grigorenko is one, although there is an unconfirmed report that he’s signed a three year deal with CSKA Moscow. Alex Chiasson is still out there. Advanced stats darling Yohann Auvitu would also be an intriguing pickup for the AHL with the possibility of earning more in the NHL. Bringing back Viktor Stalberg would be a good move for the fourth line, and I know the Rangers like him as they tried to bring him back last year but couldn’t make the dollars work.  Then there are guys like Jagr, Vanek, and Jussi Jokinen, who still have great hands but the legs are pretty much shot. On defense, there isn’t much else out there. Everyone is either a lefty or has a lot of baggage/question marks.  Cody Franson would be my pick as far as a flier goes, simply because he’s the youngest of an old and//or slow lot of right handers. Dennis Wideman would probably be next, but seeing as how the NHL officials hate him and the team he plays for, he’s probably someone to avoid.

My guess is the Rangers will now focus on item #1 on the list at the top: re-signing Zibanejad and Fast. Once those two are locked up, they will be able to revisit the FA and trade markets with a better idea of their cap situation in the short and long terms.

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382 thoughts on “Free Agency Checklist”

  1. Franson sucks. And how many more D are they going to sign to keep blocking the young Dmen they have? As to stands now, Deangelo is the 8th Dman. Graves, Day, the two Russians, and Pionk? No room.

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  2. BDL

    I assume you have Klein ahead of DeAngelo? Or Kampfer.?

    I don’t think Klein will be here.

    I don’t think DeAngelo will be here as 7th dman either as he needs to play somewhere. If he starts that way it won’t last long.

    Most of others you named were just signed so their development will be by playing and yes players develop in ahl too. Very much so.

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  3. BDL, who said anything about blocking our guys? I’m talking about short term deals as security blankets in the event that our guys aren’t ready. Besides, Day isn’t playing in the NHL this year even if the team only had three defensemen under contract. He’s just not ready. Same goes for Zborovsky (who I actually like a lot) and Bereglazov, although Bereglazov probably has an outside chance of being a depth NHL defenseman this year after some time getting used to North America. Pionk is an interesting case, as I don’t trust the undrafted NCAA defensemen jumping straight to the NHL after watching Gilroy flounder. Krug took a year in the AHL, although Dekeyser came right in without trouble.

    All that’s left is DeAngelo, and boy, is he going to be in Casa Di Cane under AV. So it behooves the team to have a backup plan, especially on the right side.

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  4. Even if you move Miller to center( I would, AV won’t), that still leaves you with
    Nash
    KREIDER
    Zucc
    Buchnevich
    Grabner
    Vesey
    AS your top 9.

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  5. Kampfer is bad. I don’t want him on our roster. Same goes for Holden, but I think we are likely stuck with him. And as I said about DeAngelo, if you think AV’s treatment of Skjei was at all unfair, you’ll think DeAngelo kicked AV’s dog by the way he will be treated.

    As for the wings you’ve listed, who would play on the 4th line with Fast?

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  6. BDL

    they might keep Kampfer as “7th dman”

    but that’s not really higher than 8th since oftentimes the 7th is journeyman whose development is not hindered by sitting. the so called 8th being a younger guy needs to play somewhere.

    also don’t be surprised if Holden is traded.

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  7. I agree that they have enough D-man, Kampfer being #7 with an outside chance of a young guy coming in. Unless they decide to trade Holden as a part of a package for a center, but mainly for salary dump purposes.
    I believe they already have a pretty good idea on what it will take to sign both Zibanejad and Fast. Both are arbitration eligible, but Zibanejad doesn’t have a good case because of his injury and subsequent mediocre production. Fast has a stronger case, but we aren’t talking of some big dollars there.
    What, and if, they do with the next center will largely determine this team’s success in 2017-18.

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  8. Kampfer is an ideal 7th dman, as he’s a righty on a squad where 4 of the top 6 are lefties, and guys like Day, Pionk, Bereglazov, Graves, and Zborovsky need to play. And like Alex said, if there’s an injury and we’re not on a long West Coast jaunt, we’ll likely call up someone else. Kampfer would exist only to play in that hyper-specific situation of losing a guy to sickness/injury with only 2 hours to go till game time and we’re in Vancouver.

    And while Kampfer is kinda sucky – he’s not Kostka. He can play in a pinch.

    I don’t see us touching another defenseman in free agency. We’re flush with kids with a good amount of upside, and still have Holden for the time being. The most I can see us doing is, if Holden gets jettisoned, we sign some minor league reclamation fodder like Tim Erixon or Brandon Gormley.

    And hopefully Zika doesn’t try to hold us hostage. I could(‘ve) seen him signing 4-5 years for $4.25m – $4.5m…but now that he’s kinda it for us other than Kevin Hayes, if I were his agent, I know how valuable and necessary he is right now. I’d think his price went up to $4.75 – 5M per year, and wouldn’t be surprised at all if he eked out $5.25 per year from us. I hope not, but can see it.

    Lemme know when Bozak’s flight gets in.

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  9. Holden and Kampfer aren’t good but what do you expect for guys with cap hits of $1.7m and $650k? Seems like they’re pretty fairly valued compared to I don’t know Staal?

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  10. Holden has not been named traded, and they’ve signed Kampfer for two years to be the 7.
    RR2,
    Your comment was they needed a top 6 winger(doesn’t everybody), not a 4th line winger.

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  11. BDL I said the same thing about the wings on this team. Not sure how the roster will shake out because I believe they’ll find a 1 or a 3 C before training camp but I would think their best lineup would be constructed with the wing pairing as such:
    Vesey-C-Nash
    Miller-C-Zucc
    Kreider-C-Buchnevich
    Fast-C-Graber.
    That’s based on passed success. chemistry and style of play

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  12. Makes sense to try to dump Holden even though the coach has a preference for him. I would think that preference will lessen with Shattenkirk in the lineup. And since Gorton was saying that DeAngelo was “important” to get back in the AZ deal, I would imagine they want to try to get him into the lineup and that the 3RD spot is his to lose come camp. Seeing as how they signed Kampfer to an extension before the end of the year and how he would have gone in over Klein in the post season if there was a change to occur, I think he’s a preferable 7th man as opposed to spending another salary similar to Holden’s for a journeyman.
    Bereglazov and Day may very well cause a lot of this to be re-thought come September anyhow. For now I’d say Gorton has done some pretty good work considering it’s now July 5 and the only blueline questions are about the right side of the 3rd pairing and the extra man to carry….

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  13. Alex I think we’ll come to realize that line was ‘lightning in a bottle’ last season. Time will tell. One thing’s for certain though, if Buchnevich and Vesey are healthy and playing well they need to be given some opportunities. Neither can be a throw away 4th liner this year

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  14. Was Kampfer’s extension due to expansion rules? This was all before Girardi’s buyout and Klein’s possible retirement, so they could’ve just been giving themselves a safety valve in the event that they made a few moves that left them with too few defensemen to expose.

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  15. James

    Buch didn’t show it last year Grabner did. Grabner is same age as Zucc so certainly not old.

    Time will tell.

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  16. Aww our petulant child Alex is trying to make friends…so cute!

    Don’t forget Alex, start your next post with “I know you are but what am I”

    Ilb
    Oh, I forgot I’m supposed to say despite the petulant child agreeing or disagreeing with you the D is decent unless there is a deal.

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  17. Alex let’s be fair though, Buchnevich missed half the season with his back issues. By the time he came back the team had hit its stride and it was tough to get him a regular spot. Played 41 games in his first year in the NHL and still managed 20 points. Plus he had a damn good first round in the post season where a lot of our veterans didn’t bother to show up. I’d say he gets a pass for not “showing it” and should probably get a better look this season, no?

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  18. And again, I have nothing against Grabner. And if/when he reverts back to a 15 goal guy with tremendous speed and PK ability I will still have nothing against him whereas I think a lot of Ranger fans will.

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  19. Exactly ILB. Gorton even said it was “important” that they get DeAngelo in the Stepan trade. I think they anticipate him as a third pair RD/2nd PP unit QB if he can step up into that role.

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  20. Listen guys, none of this stuff matters. what matters most is:

    “He’s comin’ home…he’s comin’ home…..tell the world he’s comin’ home…..let the pain wash away…all the pain of signing Desharnais….”

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  21. Here’s what Ryan Lambert over at Puck Daddy had to say about the Rangers signing Shattenkirk:

    “But their big free agent swoop only gives them, what, two guys who can effectively move the puck at the NHL level?”

    Oof.

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  22. I think i said this on the last thread but if you look at the roster as it is and add in the RFA’s thats 9 wingers and 8 D – without even thinking about youngsters, further free agents or try-outs. Klein may retire to bring that number down but you’ve still got Pionk, Bereglazov, Graves and Day on D so spinning a trade out of Holden, plus a winger, a young D-man and a pick should net us a mid-tier 1C.

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  23. Alex
    I’d disagree with that completely. I ask James a clarification question about something and you turn around with an insult.

    I have no problem at all with a differing of opinion. I’ve had them with others here, and others have had them with me. It’s part of a blog and discussion. It’s the petulant behaviour in your bullying responses (and I have news for you, while I make light of you accusing me of being a bully, you are the one that actually exhibits bullying behaviour).

    Do I help the situation by acknowledging your behaviour, no I don’t. But I’m not the guy that is going to be bullied. You want to dish it out to me and others, be prepared to get it back.

    I apologize to those who are bothered by this. In the old blog days that type of behaviour would not have been tolerated, but time change.

    Again, my apologies to those of you that are bothered by the exchanges.

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  24. Wicky

    I’m talking in general about your behavior or lack thereof. You must even see it based on the words you’ve added to your signature. No sir, it’s you who exhibit bully behavior and like you said I’m not going to tolerate it..

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  25. I guess lack of reading comprehension (re making light of your bullying comments and my question to James last thread) is an issue or you are just trying to be a bully.

    One of the two.

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  26. The assumption that Miller is going to move to center is nothing but in house speculation on this blog. And that included any comments that may have been made by Larry “Shatty’s not coming here” Brooks….

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  27. Wicky

    go back in history on that thread and others. it’s not about 1 comment it’s about many comments made by you.

    and like i said you wear your behavior like a badge of honor – noted in your signature.

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  28. Whoever runs the NYR twitter should tweet that they’re thinking of putting Miller and Hayes at wing with Zika in the middle, and then turn off their phone for a few days.

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  29. Hey James. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I read where Gorton stated that Miller can play center last week. Frankly, given the wingers the Rangers have I would like to see him get a trial there. He can always improve his defensive play at the position, but he has to play it to do so. If they acquire a center than removes this need, fine too. After all, with Zucc, Nash, Buch, Vesey, and Kreider that leaves only one winger spot open in the top 9. That person could be Grabner and then there is a spot on the 4th line.

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  30. They were real high on Etem when they dumped Hags and we know how that worked out. Makes me wonder if DeAngelo was Tampa’s DelZoto. But he’s only 21 – young for a D. Let’s see what he looks like in camp. Hopefully he’ll stay away from porn star twitter wars and stick to hockey.

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  31. James, I doubt that they are considering Puempel as anything more than a 13th forward. The only reason he was re-signed so quickly was for expansion draft compliance.

    As for Miller at center, we are just connecting the dots. As it stands, without him, they only have three centers on the roster.

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  32. TYM, I’m sure it’s a possibility. Plenty of scenarios are. Just seems as though Miller has had back to back 22 goal seasons and career highs in points playing an effective role on the wing. I don’t think the mindset there is to move him to center where he’s never seemed all that effective at the NHL level. Again, that’s my opinion. If the team sees fit to do so then by all means I hope it works out. I’m just under the impression that they see themselves as needing to acquire a top line center as opposed to going Zibanejad-Hayes-Miller down the middle.

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  33. Alex
    You really do have issues.

    James
    Yeah, I wonder how much, if at all, his production would drop?!

    Wasn’t he drafted as a centre?

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  34. so we have quickie for a few more years

    NYR Stats & Info‏Verified account @NYRStatsInfo

    Fast has been named the winner of the Rangers’ annual Players’ Player Award in each of the last 2 seasons

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  35. Aight, we currently have $5.5M in cap space, with Zibanejad to sign. BUT – if Klein is removed, we have $8.4M. So if Zika signs for…$5M per, that gives us $3.4M to afford a 2/3C to take the pressure off.

    But, I’d assume Holden goes the other way to offset. So – $1.6M added to $3.4M, then minus $650k for Kampfer as 7D = $4.35M towards a new center. Since we probably want to have a little wiggle room, maybe $1M, then we’re right back to around $3.4M for a center.

    That is, if we’re going straight Holden + Pick/Prospect for Mystery Center.

    Bozak makes $4.2M, so it COULD happen but would leave us without our cap wiggle room. Fast WILL be on IR for the first month or so, and likely replaced by Jensen, who’s qualifying offer is $1M less. So Bozak is still possible, with a month of prorated cap space while Fast is recovering.

    My gut tells me that unless someone we aren’t considering as a trade asset is being bandied around, and we’re working with the Holden/Pick/Prospect framework – they’ll likely target someone slightly less expensive than Bozak, unless salary is retained. But I personally wouldn’t make extra for that unless it’s a mid-round pick or a Fogarty/Gilmour type.

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  36. I say try to bridge Zika for 4.5 and dump Holden. That leaves you in the neighborhood of roughly 5.4 million to bring in a center via trade.

    Open letter to Marc Staal:

    Dear Marc,
    your contract sucks. Not for you though because you’re actually getting the 5.7 million dollars we would rather give to someone else. So there’s that. Go you. no really….GO

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  37. i wont tolerate it… how are you not going to tolerate it, wicky’s locked in, you either leave or tolerate it. Answering him is not, ‘not tolerating’, its engaging, which is closer to tolerating it than not tolerating it. Your having a war of words and straight backs with someone whos getting a kick out of it. Its a losing battle.

    And wicky, im not dissing you at all. anyone with the little mormount girl as their avatar is a cool dude in my book, lol. but truly you know ive come to love you

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  38. OR they’ll give Zika a shorter, bet-on-yourself bridge deal in order to still compete this year. If that’s the case, you’re looking at centers in the $3.5-5M range, likely on an expiring contract. Guys that fit the bill would be Bryan Little, Tyler Bozak, Cody Eakin, and Mikael Backlund.

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  39. Dave B

    usually when a guy is out a month his cap hit stays with the team unless they’re at the absolute max because teams also want to build a nest egg that pro rated can mean something at deadline or cover other short term injuries. Especially early in the season. (unlike the end when a Chicago was able to use Kanes salary a few years ago since he was out until the playoffs).

    I could see us carrying a 22 man roster not counting quickie if others are reasonably healthy. But if we carry 23 + quickie we’ll be needing the replacements salary fit in too. Unless we are at the max and go long term injury which we and other teams rarely use.

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  40. Steve Zipay ✔ @stevezipay
    Breaking: Rangers, RFA Jesper Fast agree on three-year contract averaging $1.85 m per…

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  41. Gotcha Alex – that complicates things…unless salary is retained, it’s tough to afford Bozak.

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  42. you know what i get a kick out of. oiler fans thinking drasaittl with take 8mil per while Mcdavid gets 13.25. If your Drasaitl, knowing mcdavid just got 13.25, why would you ever sign a long term deal for 8? he’s gonna ask for 12 million and hes gonna get over 1oper. hard to field a competitive team when your paying 23.25mil to two players no matter who they. Crosby/Malkin are 19.2mil against the cap. Id be willing to give the oilers skjei, hayes, and kreider or miller. Hurts big time, but its worth it.

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  43. id trade him if its part of a deal to bring in a bonafide young #1 center. You can always move Smith to the left side. still have deangelo, poink, beregelov, kampher, Day who can play the right side either this season or in the near future.

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  44. I don’t view Skjei as untouchable Gravy, but he’s a tough one to move. This year he’s unbelievably affordable, especially since he’s their 3D. And he likely won’t command a huge huge raise next year – they can bridge him for the low 2’s, or if they were smart, they’d long-term him for around $2.75-3m for 4 or 5 years. That’s mega-affordable for a guy who’ll be anchoring our 2nd pair for the length of his deal…or if we’re lucky and he can play the right side, he might find himself on the 1st pair.
    With some many RFAs coming up who’ll actually command some hefty raises, and already knowing that we won’t be able to accommodate all of them – I wouldn’t trade Skjei, even for a slightly better player, if it meant we would be taking on a larger cap hit in the next season or two. For instance, if we traded Skjei for Trouba…that’s a slam-dunk player wise, but Trouba is going to be an RFA coming off of a cap hit of $2.8M. We’d have to pay him millions more than we’d have to pay Skjei, and our tough choice of what RFA go trade becomes of a tough choice of what two RFAs to trade.
    So, in short – I’d trade Skjei, but it would have to be a hyper-specific scenario where the player we got back was comparable in skill, on-ice performance, and now-$$/future-$$.

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  45. the rangers front office has loved fast since they’ve scouted him pre-draft, all he’s done since then is pay them back in spades. Definitely a organization favorite. Seems like such a great guy.

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  46. Ruff: “Hey kid”
    Fast: “Yes coach?”
    Ruff: “I’m thinking you take on a little different role with the team now that I’m at the helm”
    Fast: “what’s that coach?”
    Ruff: “see those equipment bags over there? start loading them onto the bus”

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  47. Grabner in contract year making low $$ looking for his next/last big payday. Do not bury on 4th line with Junior and DDs

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  48. James–I get it. But you wrote that Miller at center was only speculation on this blog, and as Gorton mentioned it, the Rangers MAY (as in might, could be) also considering it. Seems to me that Miller did well in the WJC playing center, and could possibly do it in the NHL. Now, if a studly center falls into their lap, there will be no need, of course.

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  49. Perfect amount of term and dollars for Fast. Love that one of our most intelligent and reliable forwards is back for more. Some people have trouble seeing his value, which is fine, but I think he proved himself even more so in this year’s playoffs than ever before.

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  50. Personally, I don’t think we HAVE a center, unless you consider the Persian kid as legit.
    With Miller and Hayes at center, we have a perfect example of a hockey Peter Principle. Perfectly competent people are promoted to a position beyond their ken.

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  51. And on Fast, that the guy contributed what he did with a messed up hip says a lot for him. I do get frustrated when he gets second line minutes while the Rangers are trailing in the 3rd period. But that is not Jesper’s fault.

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  52. Quite true about Step, Coos. Even if you wanted him out there to make heady plays late in the game, Ziba or even Lindberg should have taken the draw. Much more likely either of those two win it and clear the zone. Then they could have changed with Step. Puzzling, indeed.

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  53. Tym that’s on me. I don’t remember Gorton saying that about Miller so I stand corrected. With that said I still don’t think they will go forth with that being the situation.

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  54. @YahooSportsNHL

    Connor McDavid felt guilty, took less on massive new Oilers contract

    ——

    So instead of 13.25 million he took 12.5! What a hero! [Eyes roll]

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  55. rangers have liked bozak for a long time. I remember they were interested in trading for him in 2011 or so. Definitely sounds legit

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  56. Grabner in contract year making 5 million looking to cash in on free agency for his retirement contract.

    9 goals
    9 assists

    Grabner scored 5 goals after January, four of those in three consecutive games at the beginning of February. Expecting him to reproduce last year is just wistful thinking.

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  57. Not too distant future, most teams will have four twelve million dollar players and the other 32 million will be doled out proportionately to the nineteen remaining players.

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  58. Grabner will get those numbers if he’s marginalized on 4th line.

    I expect a Hags like player – meaning Hags as a Ranger and Hags was a 3rd liner here. We missed Hags a ton the year after.

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  59. Grabner was ‘marginalized’ in Toronto because he played that way. Rather put him on the 4th line where he’s consistently effective than on the 3rd line where he’s inconsistenly effective. Like to put Nash on the 4th (or 5th) line also, but that’s just me.

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  60. that takes offer sheets out for all those players
    Galchenyuk and Fast already signed

    NHLPA‏Verified account @NHLPA

    Salary Arbitration hearings will be held in Toronto from July 20 to Aug. 4, 2017.

    Brian Dumoulin, Conor Sheary, Colton Parayko, Tyler Johnson, Ondrej Palat, Reid Boucher, Michael Chaput, Nate Schmidt,Connor Hellebuyck

    Viktor Arvidsson, Marek Mazanec, Austin Watson, Calvin de Haan, Jesper Fast, Mika Zibanejad, Ryan Dzingel, Jean-Gabriel Pageau (cont’d)

    Micheal Ferland, Matt Nieto, Tomas Tatar, Joey LaLeggia, Kevin Gravel, Mikael Granlund, Nino Niederreiter, Alex Galchenyuk (continued…)

    30 Players have elected Salary Arbitration: Jordan Martinook, Ryan Spooner, Nathan Beaulieu, Johan Larsson, Robin Lehner (continued…)

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  61. Grabner was very effective in reg season and playoffs. 3rd liner.

    too many here want him marginalized. We’ll see what the coach does. Of course if he puts him on 3rd line just chalk up another reason for the firing squad.

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  62. Doesn’t z pack filing for arbitration open another buyout window for the rangers?

    Anyone here think bozak is coming?

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  63. The teams in those cases have the option of deciding if the award is 1 or 2 years since the player elected the arbitration.

    of course they could still sign a deal of any length before it gets to that point and most teams/players go that route.

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  64. Man it was barrel of laughs the way the Zherdev arbitration went down, right? He’s a marginal player even in the KHL nowadays.
    Imagine going through a hearing where a team lists all the ways you’re a total piece of crap, getting a $ value assigned to you, and the team being like “nah.”

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  65. Yes Rangers will have 2nd buyout window in prob late July early August.

    I tried leaving a call for Lou on bozak but he hasn’t gotten back to me

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  66. Grabners speed is his best asset. Creates scoring opportunities and offensive rush. He’s not replicating his stats from last season

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  67. Carp–What I want to know is when this outfit that Katie Strang went to is going to open ops in NY, and when they are going to hire you to run them.

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  68. James neither will Vesey or Buch if in same role get 27 goals and be defensibly responsible.

    Hopefully Av sees Grabner same way I do.

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  69. Yeah, the old days were awesome!

    Some of us have been around forever.

    Where’s kaspar?

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  70. Not sure, CCCP 😀

    I think I started reading the blog in ’10 or ’11 😀

    Probably started posting in the 11-12 season 😀

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  71. kaspar lol that’s ages ago, bro!

    but every time booby says something like “for years” referring to this blog… that sounds mad suspicious to me because I feel like he only began posting like 2 years ago or so… unless, of course, he’s you know who 🙂

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  72. Who disappeared around the same time as kaspar?

    I miss Orr and mister D.

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  73. Carp
    Best of luck.

    Yeah, Lloyd lol

    I miss LW too. I think he’s still on twitter though.

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  74. Leafs sign Zach hyman 4 yrs 2.25 per. Currently 4 mil over the cap. Granted can put Horton on LTIR. Paging bozak expiring deal. Kids to pay

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  75. Salty. LW is on Facebook, occasionally… and full time on Twitter. I did ask him top comeback but he gave some lame excuse like he’s not into blogging anymore or whatever. CT i miss. I keep in touch with him on FB and also asked him to come back. He said he would but never came.

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  76. Wick

    what do you mean who was running the blog? I remember when I first found the RR Beer Me was a regular poster and it seemed like he was the center of attention poster…

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  77. Beer me.
    I remember him.mhe really loved Tom Renney and Blair Betts. He really thought he new his stuff.

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  78. I remember beer me. Wasn’t John dellapina the guy “in charge”?

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  79. Memorable women? Not too many, Alex. Linda, Laurel (Blog mama), Sally (Carp’s crush). Jane Mcanus or something used to work for the RR I believe.

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  80. Beth was on for quite a bit. Then there was a girl that someone had a crush on that was a bartender in jersey I think.

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  81. I don’t know why I remember john, but I think he was before Sam.

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  82. I know I was part of the blueshirt bulletin migration along with Orr, nasty, tr-808, and a few others.

    They started to make it a pay site and we moved lol.

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  83. I thought I remembered at one point that came up with sittoo, but I could be wrong on that one.

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  84. Oh man, reitz could hit like a truck but couldn’t skate from blue line to blue line without being gassed lol

    Voros, remember when he was on pace for like a goal a game lol.

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  85. He was a D man the rangers acquired (for dan fritche i think) and was supposed to be really physical but was terribly out of shape….lasted like 6 games

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  86. Voros makes me think of the fight in practice with dubi and the big almost brawl during a stoppage with Vancouver.

    Fritche reminds me of the almost dust up with Ottawa after a shootout when jarko ruutu shot the puck twice at hank

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  87. Wasn’t there a blogger who, before that season started, said he would drink his own pee if Voros netted 10? It was pretty dicey for a while.

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  88. Dave
    That sounds really familiar. I rember Orr bet and lost his left nut at one point lol

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  89. Czechthemout. Gigantic pain in the rear end for me, but a decent guy who knew his stuff (mostly).

    Dellapina never had anything to do with RR.

    It was Sam Weinman, then me, now Doodie. 🙂 Jane McManus helped me out quite a bit the first year. Mama did some live video chats with me. Josh Thomson, 26, filled in too.

    I only took over temporarily for seven years. Then they showed me the door.

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  90. Carp
    That’s right, dellapina did a different ranger thing and then went to golf.

    Ilb was right, it was Sam.

    Who is doodie? 😉

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  91. Alex Galchenyuk agreed to a three-year contract with the Montreal, inking a three-year $14.7 million contract that averages $4.9 million per season. Helllloo… Next.

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  92. Oh yeah, Rod! Everyone’s favorite troll. “I know something you don’t. I will only tell what I know after the news is out to the public. Then I’ll tell it to everyone and then call you all ungrateful for not thanking me for shared ‘excluse’ info!”

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  93. Not sure how many goals Grabber will score but he will have the most valuable productivity:
    Output/cap hit

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  94. Wholly crap with the auston matthews “friend” in the twitter feed pic.

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  95. Out of sight (across the Atlantic) and out of mind……i’ve been here since the Weinman days, but mostly while you’re all sleeping and getting your morning coffee (or are on the can….)

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  96. Good morning Boneheads welcome to Thursday! I can’t even remember when I found the blog or started posting. What does that tell you about people who live down here in St Petersburg?

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  97. I wasn’t gonna say it but man you guys are a bunch of grumpy old men lol. Too much churn around the same topics and training camp still many weeks away. Hopefully Giants camp distracts a bit! Heading north for some R&R myself, though that does mean I’ll need to be speaking with a Filthy fan over beers, poor guy is a mess – Filthy, Pats and Sox – but at least we can agree on Cindy.

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  98. UKRanger – Can’t count how many times I just yakked on and on by phone to my daughter in the London suburbs forgetting that it was after 1 AM over there. She’s so polite. I would have told myself to stop effing bothering me in the middle of the night! 🙂

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  99. It’s always amazing to me that GMs and coaches in all sports don’t seem to talk that much. Time after time you see the GM bring in a player and the coach either does not play him or uses him in a role that doesn’t seem to suit him. It seems like a power straggle with the coach saying “FU. You can sign him but I don’t have to play him.” You might say “what we have here is a failure to communicate.”

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  100. coos – she was probably sitting up watching Ranger games on gamecenter if she’s like me – if you’re a hockey fan you have to be a night owl!!

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  101. @DarrenDreger

    I haven’t dug in on this one, but sounds like there’s a good possibility Rick Tocchet is the Arizona Coyotes next head coach.

    ……..

    Tocchet had good corsi as a player or something?

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  102. Gorton has to be working on a trade for a center it is a must for this so called rebuild on the fly, Desharnais is not the answer. I also believe Holden has to be moved in any deal a Staal / Holden pairing will lead to Lundqvist have pre-game nightmares! I know he would never do this, but if Avoiding Victory > AV could sit Staal and keep him off the 3rd pairing he may ask to be traded to a team looking for a twice concussed one eyed LD with a ridicules cap hit !

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  103. If gorton swings a deal for a centre, it wouldn’t shock me if it happens later in august when none of us expect it.

    Kind of like the brass trade (wasn’t Nash in august too?)

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  104. ‘It was a one-eyed, one-horned
    Flyin’ Purple People Eater
    One-eyed, one-horned
    Flyin’ Purple People Eater
    One-eyed, one-horned
    Flyin’ purple people Eater
    Sure looked strange to me…’

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  105. re: Staal gradually, then suddenly turning into an albatross

    The mob turned on Girardi, Staal, and even Stepan pretty quickly. About the only old guard Ranger it is still taboo to question is Hank. Wonder how long that is sustainable

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  106. Cooscoos

    Does Staals play have anything to do with several concussions including at least 1 this season. The eye injury does not help either.

    Seems like there’s conflicting info out there on whether he has no move after this year or partial no trade. The difference is huge as the latter would allow us to avoid a very costly and very long buyout – on top of Girardi’s

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  107. Brassard trade was mid July – Ottawa waited until July for us to pay a bonus – deal was talked about earlier in June.

    re Staal

    2 different sites have conflicting info.

    “See, Capfriendly says “NMC” whereas Spotrac has NMC until next year where it says “Modified No-Trade”.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/marc-staal–rangers-nearing-six-year-extension-145841304.html

    Pierre LeBrun notes that the deal has “a full NTC for first 3 years and starts right away; then after 3 years it becomes a partial NTC.”

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  108. Ok, thanks everyone. I must be thinking of the Hayes or vesey signings.

    July or august…whatever it’s too damn hot then and I’m ready for hockey either way 😉

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  109. Carp

    can you find out what Staals contract says after this coming season. Is it full move throughout or limited no trade after this coming season. A couple of the sites have conflicting info.

    thanks

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  110. Cooscoos

    so it’s more a matter of I told you so?

    remember when i reply to you it’s there for others to read as well like it is for all to read in any of our comments

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  111. the point I was also making on Staal was also that the latest concussion took a toll on him and his game regressed thereafter.

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  112. I don’t think many turned on Stepan. It was a good business decision for Gorton to correct Sather’s mistake of the NMC. The dollars were arguably $1M AAV overpay, though I’d say closer to $500k.

    There are certain bullies and guys on the can that wanted him to be more than he was. 😉

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  113. No anger, James. Did you know that the Meter Maids in NYC used to (don’t know if they still do) leave an empty M&M wrapper on their dashboards so that they would recognize each other and not ticket themselves?

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  114. Beautiful young blonde came up to me couple days ago at the Larchmont Tavern and whispered in my ear that she knew what I needed and was going to do something for me that no one has ever done before. I said ‘you gonna paint my house?’

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  115. I may be there too, Eric.

    Normally I road trip to Arizona, but it could be Vegas instead this year.

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  116. Carp – if forced to start the season with who we’ve got now and arrange the Cs as you laid out in your latest MSG post (maybe with Miller at C) – what does that do to our GF/G? I expect Hank to bounce back, and Shatty to improve the PP, but still – makes me nervous… Last year we seemed to score most of our goals against the Western Conf and barely squeaked by in the East.

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  117. I guess we now know why Nashville was collecting free agent goalies – they have waived Marek Mazanec. At 6-4/187 he still needs to fill out a bit, but he’d be a nice gamble for the Goalie Whisperer. Not great numbers in the NHL, but he has AHL experience and the Rangers have little experience in Hartford.

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  118. It’s actually pretty eye opening when you look at the roster that was on paper when the Rangers were eliminated in the first round vs Pittsburgh in 15-16 as compared to it today.
    Gone:
    Stepan
    Brassard
    Yandle
    Girardi
    Boyle
    Raanta
    Lindberg
    Moore
    Stalberg
    Glass
    E Staal
    Mcilrath
    Diaz
    If you include Stoll, Etem and Paille who all played in at least 10 games in the regular season that breaks down to 5 defensemen, 1 goalie and 10 forwards. That’s nearly an entire starting roster gone inside of 14 months.

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  119. Remember, Glass isn’t gone until he signs with another team – and even then …. will he truly ever be gone as long AV is here?!? 🙂

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  120. Why would Klein retire and forfeit $2.75M, though? If he is in such rough shape can he just be buried on LTIR? Maybe develop a sudden allergy?

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  121. Rob

    there was talk that he was going to europe so the retirement if he does it will be nhl only if that talk becomes true

    i could see us buying him out

    would be 1.1 this year
    .9 the following year

    hard to believe it’s taking this long for decision to be made

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  122. cooscoos, is just sarcastic to the bone in the most sophisticated way and I, personally, like it. You can’t fight what is in your DNA. (…and not like you need to in this particular case). Always fresh and, most important, – originally his.

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  123. Dan, unless Andrew Gross did it for a short period of time … I don’t think he did but I could be wrong. I moved off the beat in 2002-03 (the Trottier year). Andrew took over the beat. Then he left and Sam took over. I think that’s when the blog started, but I wasn’t paying attention because I was covering a lot of other stuff. Sam moved to Golf Digest and left it to me (temporarily) in 2008-09, just before Torts arrived.

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  124. Carp
    Yeah, I was getting Sam and jdp mixed up.

    It was Sam when I started this “adventure”

    What the hell, i can’t remember who was running the blog but I can remember an almost donnybrook after a shootout attempt and how many games reitz played as a ranger…wtf?!

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  125. I think I owned a Latona in college, but I don’t remember the year, only that the driver’s side window wouldn’t go all the way up.

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  126. Yup, James. Latona, CT, LW3H, Mister D…all well informed hockey guys and hilarious.

    Shout out as well to current posters Gravy, Manny, Rob and myself since we’re all the same guy.

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  127. I still remember when Carp took over. I was so happy to see him back on the Rangers beat (even without the mustache). I remember putting up a post saying if you guys aren’t familiar with him, just know the blog is in good hands. The rest as they say is history.

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  128. Booby Idk if you know the story but I infamously and without malice called Latona “LANTona” all the time. Realizing that I was either clueless, in need of glasses (it was both actually) he started calling me JaNmes. It was pretty funny

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  129. Shatty: “hey man. So I was wondering if we could work something out so I can wear my #22 here. So what’s the deal what do you want?”

    Holden: “how about a roster spot?”

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  130. Holy crap, James! The LaNtona JaNmes thing was so damn funny. I’d totally forgotten about that.

    Latona was kind of a subtle genius with his sense of humor. He used to bring up poetry in the middle of a hockey discussion.

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  131. Does Holden know he’s being traded to Toronto as a part of the Tyler Bozak deal? Should we tell him?

    I figure Shattenkirk buys Holden a car or a truck for his #22, only to find out he’s getting traded.

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  132. When CARP took over the blog, I pulled out my dog eared copy of Nightmare on 33rd Street and re-read it. Right under it was Thin Ice by Larry “Ratso” Sloman. Had to read that one again too. Who I could ever forget Beaver Davidson and Davey Brown?

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  133. I’d be fine with bringing Bozak here, but obviously it’s not a lock that it’s going to happen. Anybody have any other options for what sounds like will need to be our 2c?

    Any chance we could get Hertle? Kadri? They’d cost a lot more than Holden and low pick.

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  134. Kadri isn’t going anywhere. Maybe as the season progresses they’ll see if a name like Spezza or Stastny surfaces as trade bait. Bryan Little is on the last year of his current contract maybe something happens there. Never know.

    Only center we are getting for Holden is a guy named Ugotz!

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  135. Lol-James- Spezza and Nash make roughly the same($7.5 AAV), but Spezza is a year older and has another year left on his deal. Nash might agree to go to Dallas who had reloaded this summer and is now coached by his old Columbus coach, Hitchcock. Spezza is fragile, but so is Nash.

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  136. Ah the good old days, those were great. No offence to current management and participants.

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  137. Wasn’t a wish list by any means Tom. Just throwing out possible names. Trading Step and bringing in Spezza would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    We look due for a clean fresh new post

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  138. Btw I have full confidence that if Nash can get into 70-75 games he’s gonna put up 30+ goals and hover around 60 points.
    Unfortunately I’m also pretty confident that he won’t come close to 70-75 games

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  139. Good morning Boneheads welcome to Friday! Here is the problem I see with Holden, who’s going to take him if we don’t want him? It’s the same thing with Staal even if we got him to waive his NMC, who wants a defenseman who can’t skate and can’t see?

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  140. Ah, the good old days when all the posters were around and Alex and Wicky would have settled their disagreement with a blog clearing brawl.

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