Florida Panthers v. Edmonton Oilers
18/21*/24* June 2024 8:00 PM EDT
Amerant Bank Arena / Mr. Rogers Place
TV ABC, ESPN+, SN, TVAS, CBC
Panthers had a chance to close out the Oilers on the road and skate the cup around the ice in front of tens of thousands of tearful Canadians. Instead, Edmonton reached deep, found a few balls and put a hurting on Florida tonight. Looked like the Panthers figured Oilers were done so they all went out for steak, beers and some late night entertainment Friday night.
The series returns to Florida on Tuesday night. How do they manage to have ice in that climate? Does the cup get frequent flyer miles?
The Sports Net feed remains the better of the two. ESPN is just a dreadful excuse at a hockey network. Why on earth did they buy the rights?
Zebra info available at Scouting the Refs
Once the finals are over, there will be new posts related to most of these important post-season dates:
48 hours after Stanley Cup Final ends
1/ The first buyout window opens. Teams can spread out 2/3 of their remaining base salary over twice the remaining length of their deal for players 26 and older and 1/3 for players 25 and younger. The players must first be placed on unconditional waivers before being bought out unless they have a no-move clause.
2/ This is also the deadline for the first club-elected salary arbitration window. If a team elects for arbitration with an eligible pending restricted free agent in this window, it serves as a qualifying offer.
June 28 – Round 1 of the 2024 NHL Draft
June 29– Rounds 2-7 of the 2024 NHL Draft
June 30, 5 p.m. EDT – Deadline for teams to tender qualifying offers to their pending RFAs. Players who do not receive an offer will become unrestricted free agents on July 1.
July 1, 12 p.m. EDT – The new year begins. Players on expiring contracts officially become restricted/unrestricted free agents. Party on!
July 5, 5 p.m. EDT – Deadline for eligible RFAs to file for salary arbitration.
July 5, 5:01 p.m. EDT – July 6, 5 p.m. EDT – The second window for clubs to file for salary arbitration with eligible RFAs.
July 15, 5 p.m. EDT – Qualifying offers expire unless extended in writing by the team. If unsigned, teams retain qualified players’ signing rights.
July 20 – August 4 – Salary arbitration hearings.
August 15, 5 p.m. EDT – Exclusive signing rights for unsigned graduated college-drafted players expire.
Oilers take inspiration from the Mavericks and decide to not go out meekly at home.
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Ouch… Bob gave up 5 on 11 shots!
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it’s always nice for the back up goalie to get a little SCF time
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Beezle, 5 on 16. Same difference.
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Knocked his save percentage all the way down to a .909 though
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I checked out at 4-1, and apparently, so did the Panthers. Just like me, they must have taken a break from sports after watching six hours of Euro football.
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Dry sight hill needs to get on with it and do something. He’s been Zbad-ish this series.
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You all still think the Rangers would take the earl-ors with their crippled and porous D?
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no doubt the Rangers would beat Edmonton. The Rangers are the second best team.
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it seems we forget that the Rangers were up 2 games to 1, and in overtime on the road to go up 3 to 1. They didn’t just win a throw away game that Florida pulled the plug half way through.
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Are the PuddyKats all tuckered out or was that the last gasp of a dying oil well?
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Brooks: The moment the NHL decided not to prosecute cheap-shot-artist-on-cheap-shot-artist crime when Sam Bennett’s Game 3 rabbit punch to Brad Marchand’s jaw KO’d the Boston center for the remainder of the second-round series is the moment the NHL endorsed the Panthers’ candidacy for the Cup. It’s not even about officiating standards at this point. It is about player safety. But of course, it is so rarely about player safety. Isn’t it time for the league to create a Department of Player Safety?
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Slewfoot talks like he’s double parked in front of a Speed den.
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coos
drugs will do that to ya.
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Speed.
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What the gullible folks in Connecticut don’t fully realize as UCONN gives Coach Hurley $50,000,000.00 is that THEY are paying that $. Hurley’s the highest paid employee of the State of Connecticut.
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Is there anyone close to him? Basketball and football coaches are the highest paid public employee in almost every state. These are essentially minor league coaches in development leagues. This does happen anywhere else in the world
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Final Exam for basketball players – How many points does a player contribute when he successfully executes a three-point play? (don’t laugh – Court testimony confirmed this at a ‘major’ university some years back.)
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College Coach to 6’11 recruit: “You come to me with a high school transcript of one D and Four F’s. I can tell you straight out and full on that you’re spending way too much time on one subject.”
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Can’t wait for Fla to win the cup and end this season. Next year they will not have the same team and it will be very hard to play the same style all year with new players. You know they will lose 1 or 2 players to new contract. Also we just might get better and with a little luck and some better health we might be able to beat them.
Oh to dream.
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#CBJ have fired coach Pascal Vincent.
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Beezle
I just saw that. “Another one bites the dust.”
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Would you trade Panarin and Lindgren for Marner and Edmundson?
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nope
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someone texted me isles pre season schedule
we play isles
sept 24 at home
oct 4 away
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Pascal’s wager, originally proposed by Blaise Pascal (1623–1662), takes a more pragmatic approach. Pascal thought that evidence cannot settle the question of whether God exists, so he proposes that you should bet, or wager, on God because of what’s at stake: you have lots to gain and not much to lose.
same Pascal?
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bobbyo
I would.
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big no thanks on mitch marner
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player for player, no thanks. Now if you dig a little deeper, you talking one year of Marner vs two of panarin. This frees you up quite a bit of cap space in 25/26, when with the Shesterkin, and Lafrenier new contracts, the rangers are really going to be up against it. I think this opens up quite a few options down the road. So for this reason, I would do it.
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it also moves Busto back to his natural LW position.
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Busto Vermont Krakko
The DJ Marner
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Marner, in the regular season, is a better all around player than Panarin. He’s very good on the PK, and is a good two way player. This is aside from point production, which he is also really good. The issues with Marner, are the baggage, and drama. Plus he seems to be overwhelmed by the moment in the playoffs. I don’t think Panarin is overwhelmed by the moment in the playoffs. He struggles with the style of play.
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Marner could hug the other two ..but nothing will change come playoff time. Other than that Edmundson older than Lindgren
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Just throwing stuff out there.
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Drury needs to throw some stuff out Pete
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starting with chytil bobby
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the 25/26 cap situation is another reason to get out from Chytil any way possible.
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i’d prefer chytil be gone before this current season. especially with his injury history
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you trade Panarin for Marner, not for playoff reasons, but to get out from the Panarin contract one year earlier. As I said before, Marner the better all around player. I don’t think he moves the needle playoff wise.
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triggered again Alex but it starts with DJ and Trouba
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Alex, I don’t think Drury does it, but moving on from Chytil changes things that Drury can do. To me it’s a must.
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Trouba has two seasons left. Ride out at least this season. Both if you can. Zibanejad is going nowhere, and it would be very difficult to replace what he does, if you could.
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i’d like to see cooscoos boy miller gone as well. addition by subtraction.
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Trade Miller at the draft.
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What do they have to replace with Zibanajad, disappearing in the playoffs?
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bobbyo
Hypnosis?
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one of Miller, or Lindgren need to go. Left side needs an overhaul.
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Chytil should be gone. Does not fit, is not exceptional, has large injury risk. Unless he wants to go, Mika is going nowhere and NYR have nobody to replace him with. Make his and lines around him a little better to give him a little less to do.
Miller they should definitely entertain offers. He’s still young but I don’t know that he’s getting much better defensively after the efforts of a number of coaches. If this is the best, Drury has to decide if that is a) good enough and b) at what price.
Trouba is a horrible cap hit but no better than second pair. How much can NYR eat and not make the replacement more expensive than his worth too? May have to run this another season or depending how things shake out, move at the deadline.
I don’t think they will move on from Goodrow. He plays the style that they need more of. How much is he over paid? 1M? You can find that and more with other moves. At the least, moving him would not be a top priority and the buyout does not make sense given the one year with very large hit.
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Mika is going nowhere and NYR have nobody to replace him with but Chytil has to go and NYR have nobody to replace him with …. unless you guys are okay with Brodz or Goodrow as 3C
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Miller was much better defensively once he got away from Trouba
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bobbyo
I agree on Miller. But he could bring back a younger 3C or RW to fill out and create the 3 Muskehuggers. More than anything else Lafreniere must be on PP1, it’s time.
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Maybe Pete but just seems they are creating different holes to fill… Miller eats alot of minutes
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Drury…have a meeting w Perimeterjad ..tell him that you want to go in a different direction roster wise..see if his ego gets bruised amd asks out..also tell him that you are gunna separate him and CK20..Can’t wait for this softee to be in another uniform
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re the 12:35
better get good scouts then. will be picking very early in the draft
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Miller flat, no head, goes against my grain. Tap into the alternatives and trade him B4 he gets more expensive and has us over the barrel for multiple years. It’s the very yeast Drury could do.
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When Davidson is re-hired, he will look into our Scouts issue.
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Goodrow on waivers
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I will be speechless if he is claimed.
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I get it that Miller eats a lot of minutes, but so do termites.
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He cannot play an effective defense and he cannot skate backwards. Might have value for Pelham High School.
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How the hell do you put Goodrow on Waivers after the post-season he had?!?! CHYTIL is the one you buy out. Yeah- it’s official. Our management is dog sh-t.
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because Johnny B would be the 3C
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bobbyo,
This is sarcasm, right? Tell me you’re being sarcastic.
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no they aren’t in a position to be buying out centers …if they can trade him for one thats different.
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Goodrows stock is up after playoffs and no trade does not apply to waivers—a young team trying to get to cap floor would at least think about it. It signals that Drury wants to free up cap space to make bigger moves
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Does he have to do that to buy him out? I thought they didn’t if he had an NMC.
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21 is waived, 8 better be next
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Presumption is Chytil is an effective center. Ergo Ipso Facto Incorrecto
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followed by 72
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Wave that Flag
Wave it High and Wide
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Dreary started to get the ovens warmed up; fixings are prepped, dough has been kneaded.
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11 teams under cap floor ($65M) but this is before RFA signings and UFA signings. Bruins at $64 is an interesting one; look for them to be active in free agent market.
Trade Kreider for McAvoy; hometown boys return back to roots (never happen; Bs arent moving Mc)
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Bundle Chytil and Goody to San Jose for a bag of pucks
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rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb
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Rock the Boat
Skin the Goat
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Cheadle was good in “Boogie Nights”
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goody stood up a full 6ft 10, said ya can’t close the door when the walls cave in…
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I asked for some water he cut me a line, finished the vial and broke into mine (sic)
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UFA Targets:
Centers: Stephenson, Lindholm and Domi
Defense: Zadarov; Pesce
Wingers: Tiffoli, Bertuzzi
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what we need, what we need, is….solidarity
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nice shopping list but you need to move a big contract
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Mollie:
”The Rangers have placed Barclay Goodrow on waivers in a cap-saving move.
With 3 years remaining on the six-year, $21.85 million deal, which includes a 15-team no trade list, Goodrow is more likely to be claimed now and that would take his entire cap charge off the Rangers’ books. If he clears, the Rangers could bury his contract in the minors and save $1.15 million for now until a trade can be worked out.
The other option would be to buy him out. The window opens 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Final ends and runs until June 30
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jeez! Didn’t see that coming
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The Captain and the craptain
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Dammit. Embedding sucks
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https://imgur.com/gallery/j6hF8o8
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Drury needs to find a younger, faster, grittier player to replace Goodrow. I am not optimistic.
Frank Seravalli is reporting that Patrick Kane wants to come back to the Rangers for a do-over, since he wasn’t at 100% the first go around. Personally, I think that is a mistake but If Drury does sign him, it should be at league minimum without any NTC OR NMC. He is not what they need, other than to give Panarin and ZBad company disappearing in the playoffs and whenever teams play physical against them.
Buying out Goodrow doesn’t make sense to me either. Hope Drury has a good plan, other than Rempe or Edstrom being the 3C or 4C. Replacing Goodrow with Kane doesn’t seem like a good plan to me, but what do I know. I thought the goal was to get tougher to play against???
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what are these buffoons wearing?
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f@#$ f@#$ity f@#$
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Beezle, why can’t I get my friggin imgur pics to post
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I wish I could say Edmonton has a prayer
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Plenty of reasons not to sign Kane but the guy’s got 3 Cups and a Conn smythe trophy to his name, he didn’t become a playoff disappearing act until drury foolishly traded for him with a known injury
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Singer? Rent a VOICE.
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wwpd I don’t remember, who’d we trade for Kane?
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“Beezle, why can’t I get my friggin imgur pics to post?”
You might need to link to the .jpeg one.
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I see this thing going back to Edmonton.
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2nd, 3rd, 4th round picks
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ehhh thats not much of a haul but I agree they should’ve know more about the extent of the injury. I wouldn’t hang the early exit last year around his neck
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Thanks, JB. How do I do that?
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Nurse is on the 3rd pair at his price?
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Just like Trouba. Same effect on the game too.
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So goodrow to waivers but not chytil huh?
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Kane cost 3 picks; what a waste
NG on a redux
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213th playoff game for Perry?? That’s insane
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would you trade Kreider for a younger center and sign Kane for half the price
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@Evrockriser
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Whilst viewing the image on imgur.com, right click on it and choose Copy Image Link. That should give you a .jpeg or .png link.
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that little kid behind the oilers bench is a real pain in the butt. It never ceases to amazes me to see people act like fools so they can ask all their friends,”Did you see me on TV acting foolish”. Oh well, people continue to do it so maybe I am the dumd one.
not much time in the zone for Edmonton. They better pick it up or Fla will be carring the cup tonight.
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ABC says low shot attempts for FL. Edmonton must be dominating.
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Florida Boy is a legend
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child services should take custody of that kid
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The Panthers will just have to suffer a few more days if they’re to finally win The Cup. And at this stage, I wouldn’t put any money on it. Things look very iffy right now.
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If they lose this, there better be a friggin game 7.
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Crystal Ball says they’ve already lost this one. And bonus prediction sees 3-3 after 6.
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Holy crap. McJesus being McJesus. Wow.
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Corey Perry just f**ked all of their moms! But Greg McKegg just answered….
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ummmm where’s he supposed to go?? Just go offside??
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Willie Mays RIP!
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Suddenly the Oilers look like the Panthers in the first 3 games
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why is mess wearing slewfoots suit?
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ev did you sell your tix
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Nah, I wasn’t selling my chance to see the cup presentation.
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And to boo Gary Bettman.
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It’s obvious to me that it’s no how good the the Panthers were but how soft, weak, and pathetic the Rangers were. I would not be one bit surprised if Edmonton wins the cup. The earl-ors would have dismantled our cotton candy crew! Knoblauch calm and collected, was the best choice going forward to rebuild the Ranger franchise, Drury dropped the ball.
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Drury was risk averse and went with the vet coach.
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If it goes 7 the Kings would have to pay PLD 2/3 of his contract to buy him out. If it ends tonight it’s only 1/3.
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Here comes the Panthers
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Tkachuk is embarassing
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They finally got an embellishment. The refs have now called 1 of 1234 embellishments against them this playoffs.
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hook on hands and his legs went out .
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Cats love Canada. It’s such a vast country.
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Apparently Florida is not the dominating team they thought they were.
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wow. Wow.
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Well the only thing I have to say after the Panthers folding tonight, is trade Miller at the draft.
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I guess you need an elite goalie to win this thing.
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If Oilcans come back to win it all Drury will look like (and be) an as*hat for not elevating Knoblauch.
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🤣 St Pete whose pick do u want for Miller?
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San Jose’s
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Dont need it if knoblauch could have won the cup with this roster, but hey an extra 1OA couldn’t hurt
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Mollie says Rangers have a deal with Sharks claim Goodrow from waivers. What? Quite a scoop
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Happy that the casual fans can see McDavid do his magic. He is making a Conn Smythe statement but needs to force game 7 to win it. Bobo’s stock is crashing.
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I’m confident the Panthers thought this was going to be easy. Edmonton has matched their forecheck and is considerably faster.
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“Connor McDavid has 8 points in 2 games facing elimination. That’s the 2nd highest in a single play-off series by a player in NHL history behind only Patrick Kane (9) in the 2014 WCF.”
Vintage Showtime.
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McJesus is the first player to have back-to-back 4+ point games in the cup final. Not even the Great One did that. 😮
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I don’t care who wins it, but both these teams better come back to Florida on Monday because I need to see a cup presentation!
My panther fan friend was going to cheer for Bettman anyway. Serves them right.
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Imagine what McDavid would have done to Miller, hobbled Trouba, and hobbled Fox.
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4 pt game in a 7 goal victory means bupkis
When McDavid wins 5 cups start comparing him to Gretz
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OUT:
Goody (3.6)
Trouba (8.0)
Miller (3.8)
Lindy (3.0)
Chytil (4.4)
Kakko (2.4)
IN:
Tiffoli ($6×3)
Stephenson ($6 x 4)
Zadarov ($5×4)
Bertuzzi ($5.5×3)
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Kreider – Mika – Tiffoli
Bread – Tro – Laffy
Othman – Stephenson – Bertuzzi
VC – Edstrom – Rempe
Fox – Schneider
Zadarov – Jones
Mackey – Mancini
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Still think Cats win but Oilcans have forwards that go into the slot ..that seems to help
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saw Goodrow Sharks rumor ..that would be nice if true,,maybe a return favor for Emberson last year?
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SN, I suspect you accidentally forgot Cuylee. I don’t like Bertuzzi as much as you, and that cbtract is very high for him. Otherwise, I like your thinking upfront. The D is very weak though.
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Mollie is not normally a news breaker. I suspect she’s got the goods on this one.
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interesting Mario Ferraro rumor as part of the Goodrow deal. LD. Is this a Lindgren out the door deal?
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Need to spend money up front; Culleye over Othman at LW3. No doubt need a vet for 3rd pair.
Signing Igor would be a huge mistake, basically not learning the lesson from Henk. Much rather add 2 $5M forwards who can help control play than pay a goalie $10-12M/per who is one bad stretch from watching on the sidelines the rest of the season.
Quick had the same stats as Igor this reg season fwiw. Recency bias has everyone fall over Igor as a must have. Meh, same people who said buying out Fox’s FA years would be a steal…
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St Pete eli . Drury dropped the ball but he still constructed a team that won the President’s Cup ??????
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The dream of every player growing up is to win the presidents cup.
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Markstrom to the Hughes brother’s?
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12:19pm…. no news of Good Row being picked up by the minnows….
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2pm.
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2pm
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I thought it was 12pm
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Jesus, we’re Ranger fans! It irks me when even Panther fans get it wrong…and they do, a lot. It’s the president’s TROPHY not cup. C’mon, we’re better than that.
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Markstrom to Derbils is a done deal. Looks like one prospect and a protected first. Goalies get paid a lot more than their worth in trades. Smh
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Ev
I’m hoping you saw my sarcasm.
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The presidents cup one? Yes lol
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Goodrow to SJS
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San Jose claimed Goodrow.
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I’m curious as to why we want anyone from SJS? Haven’t they been bottom dwellers for quite a few years now?
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Now do Chytil and Trouba…..and Zibanejad……and (hate this one) Lindgren.
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Bahl, first RD pick 2025 (top 10 protected) for Markstrom with 31.25% retained on his remaining contract which has two more years.
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Unlikely to be a dance partner for Trouba at 8M for two more years. Whatever they would eat would go against cost of replacement. Not sure the savings will be great enough.
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perhaps I’m jaded but it takes balls of NYR media to post a “thank you Barclay” on twitter after exiling him to SJS
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Goodrow was as advertised, and he will be missed.
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PLD to the Caps.
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I’m certainly looking forward now to seeing the other leg of these cap moves that gets the rangers bigger and tougher
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Does this make Kreider and Quick the only rangers to play ever play in the SCF?
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I’m still Jonesing over Knoblauch, I may never recover. Organizational clulessness!
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Im not worried knoblauch would have put the rangers over the top to win a Cup this year like I’m not worried the rangers would have won back to back cups in 2016 + 2017 if only they still had Mike Sullivan
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The grease pencil was undefeated in Sully’s mind
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Goodrow was a good Ranger. I think a problem we all fall into is how much money these players make. We judge them not by how play the game but we use there salary as a mesuring device against every player in the NHL. Many years ago I had no idea what Carol Vadanais or Wille Huber made. I disliked them for what I saw as a lack of effort.
A guy who a lot of us liked was Dan Giradi. No clue what he made but every game you knew what ever it was,was cheap. Kind of like what we have now with Lingren.
going forward we all have someone on this team we would love to get rid of. I trust our GM and think by opening night next year we will be a better team that this year.
I have to hope so,31 years is getting OLD.
LGR
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the Medal Tosser signed with Swiss team.
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🦔
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The medal Tosser and Kravstov, among other poor picks, are a good part of the reason the Rangers have not been able to get back to the finals. Drury, Gorton and the scouting staff dropped the ball on the rebuild, especially with those two loser top 10 picks. That is part of the reason I do not have a lot of faith in Drury making them a true cup contender.
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those were not Drury picks ..he’s gone with size and usually North American players since taking over
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@Beezle
Prepare yourself for the MSG video tribute to Goodrow next season.
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Goodrow did the best he could for us. Great move by Drury.
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Drury undoing another one of his acquisitions! Now undo some of Gorton’s handy-work please
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BobbyO – I know those weren’t technically Drury’s picks, but I believe Drury was the assistant GM at the time and had a lot of say with moves they made, as Gorton and Sather trusted and valued his opinion. Maybe he was dead against those two picks, but I suspect he was on board with those picks. If he was dead against them, he should have spoken up more against them and made sure they didn’t make those mistakes.
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The entire organization is responsible for the failed picks. Even the Minx knew better. I fell off my chair after both the Tosser and Whinesoft picks, I still, to this day am Smh. Clown show!
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there was no stopping Off the Board Gord!!!
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hard to say how much input Drury had on the Gorton drafts. Looking at Gorton drafts, compared to Drury drafts, there definitely is a different type of player being drafted. Gorton’s parting gift may be the 2020 draft. That is shaping up to be a good one. 17/18/19 were horrific. Drury’s first draft (21), does not appear to be strong. After Othmann, it’s a lot of eh. 22 has the potential of being a really strong draft. 23 will be about Perreault.
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the buck stops with the GM
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Drury to his credit canned the entire player personnel and scouting functions. I believe when Capt Clutch came aboard as Asst GM he was tasked with fixing Hartford, which has been done. JD had an imprint as well, supposedly adamant about getting Schneider and not another Euro Dancer.
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Dreary’s Deadline moves have been a mixed bag; acquiring high end talent and wasting picks that provide depth in the org as the draft is a crap shoot (for most). This year went light on the deals and they were 2 games from the Cup Finals.
Need to make HOCKEY trades NOW! Have to get creative on assembling a roster that can be a Cup Contender, not pretender.
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Will be very interested to see the “savings” by bailing on Goodrow. You are working with 2.3M if he is replaced by an ELC. Anything less than that and his replacement better bring more than Goodrow did.
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Any input Drury as Asst. GM on the drafts was ignored. Either because there was no input or because it was not valued enough to change the selections. I find it hard to believe the former is the case.
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The Buck stops with Showalter
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No savvy GM likes his obvious successor waiting in the wings. Just does not work. Human nature.
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I repeat myself the entire organization is responsible.
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Minx: “You can’t handle the truth!”
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Beezle
🤣
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In the next three drafts, the rangers have a total of 5 draft picks before the fifth round (3 firsts, 0 seconds, 1 third, 1 fourth). getting hard to maneuver and very little in the prospect pipeline. I wonder if Drury feels that noose tightening and is going to do something rash – or brilliant!
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how much value does Berard have as a trade chip fellas?
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wwpd, I think that’s where Jones comes in to play. Try and move him for a couple of mid round picks.
bobby, hard to say on Berard. I think he may have more value to the Rangers, in that they are going to need some guys on ELCs.
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Jones more NHL ready and can move the puck….Berard is a 5 9 winger.
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If berard has trade value it’s because some GM misread his name.
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I heard from a reliable source NYR can trade Miller at the draft for San Jose’s picks – 2nd and 3rd rounders 😉
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Have to have the puck to move the puck. Also need to get the puck, and defend.
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We are trading Miller at the draft?
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You need to block the puck, stop the puck, get the puck, have the puck, pass the puck, shoot the puck, score the puck.
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for conversation purposes, i see a lot of trade Miller, Kreider, etc. what are you trading these guys for. Not who specifically, but type of player, or prospect.
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Ranger best stretch of defense all season was when Trouba was out and Jones was in
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Have to block the puck, stop the puck, get the puck, pass the puck, shoot the puck, score the puck.
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https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/ny-rangers-1st-round-flop-leaving-nhl-age-25/
lias back to europe
article has off the board gordie talking him up at time in video. and video of lias disposing of silver medal
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exactly!
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Miller, Kakko, Berard for Terry and Ducks R2
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I like Terry. Fits the timeline.
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Jones is listed at 5’10 and 176 lbs. Sure, he did ok for 5-10 games. Is he going to survive 82 games and a pounding in four rounds of the playoffs?
Of the 80 drafted in 2019 that have played 1 NHL game, only 9 are lighter and none are defenders. Of the 2019 draft class, of those who played in 23/24, 8 are lighter, none defenders and only 5 defenders are under 190. Fox outweighs him by 9 pounds, Gustafsson by 13, Ruhwedel by 15, Lindgren by 17.
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have the Ducks add Nathan Gaucher, and I’m in.
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Skate, shoot. Stickhandle.
Sidewind.
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Fox-Lindgren
Schneider-Rempe
Harpur-Laviolette
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Beezle I’m more worried that Trouba actually survives 4 playoff rounds
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trouba has been a huge liability in two ECFs, not sure to expect much different rest of his tenure here
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bobby I don’t disagree, Trouba is developing injuritis
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When’s the next damned game, Buttman, July 4th?
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Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
RIP Donald Sutherland
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Will the Panthers panic and get run off the ice tonight?
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by the time “fans” are done getting rid of everyone they hate, the Rangers will be left with just Jones, and Chytil.
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who likes Chytil?
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Bettman wants to shoot fireworks off after Game 7
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Just got to trade Miller; can’t take his lackadaisical approach to defense Jones’s talent is being wasted by not playing; he did help the team over a long stretch when Trouba was out. Trouba got to go & Goodrow was treated like crap, but still a necessary business decision. They’re going to miss him in the locker room; players loved him. I’m getting old waiting for kakko. He and maybe Chytil can get a great return.
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used to be
that’s the 1st 2 i’d get rid of
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Alex, that’s the first two that any Rangers fan who understands team building, would get rid of.
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Bettman really should be hung out to dry for the scheduling of the entire season, not just the playoffs. As to the current round, game six should have been played last night. He’s turned the NHL into a 9 month season.
2023 MLB 216 days
23/24 NBA 237 days
23/24 NFL 157 days
23/24 NHL 255 days…so far
Never mind that hockey is played on a surface that melts over 32 🤣
Factor this in to his desire to expand the league to a number of teams greater than any other major sports league (at least in North America)
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If you move Fox and his 9.5M cap hit, you keep Jones. If you keep Fox, you move on from Jones. You are not going to have both in your regular line up.
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side show: NJD have acquired Adam Beckman from Minnesota in exchange for Graeme Clarke
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beezle
they were working around nba schedule especially re the finals. don’t want to play same night and both televised on same network. weren’t going to then change schedule when nba ended after game 5
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🤣 🤣
New Columbus Blue Jackets president of hockey operations and general manager Don Waddell was candid about Elvis Merzlikins’ trade value around the league due to his contract.
“Let’s be honest, nobody is going to trade for that contract. Nobody,” Waddell told The Athletic’s Aaron Portzline. “People say, ‘Well, why don’t you buy out the contract?’ It’s a six-year buyout, and there are Years 3, 4, 5 and 6, when you might need that cap space.
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Alex is there really that much overlap between the roughly 4M who have been watch NHL and those who watched the NBA? My gut feeling is there is not.
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But Dury is not building a team..they have a team that won the president’s tropy and went to semis….. he is trying to build a championship winner and if thats the case the first one you get rid of is Zibanajad .
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So Elvis is not leaving the building?
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beezle
nhl is afraid of competing with nba. there is some overlap. i’m not part of that overlap but i know people who prefer nba and still will watch nhl if no overlap. and both are on same network
honestly if we didn’t have the extra day in 94 before game 7 we would not have won the cup
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bobby
then better get really good scouts since we will be picking early if mika leaves. his line is the 2nd line and in the aggregate paid as 2nd line.
you’ll never admit it but chytil needs to be gone. cost us the last few years. can’t keep that problem going forward.
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Alex they can trade anyone on this team if it gets them a Cup.. You will never admit it bu Mika has no cajones and is not a winner. They can figure it out without him with 8.5 in cap space
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depends who replaces Mika at 2C. if it’s Chytil then we’ve got problems.
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Who’s the GM that will take a dancing DJ who moonlights as a center?
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it depends on who comes in at 3C/checking center…. thats whats needed to replace Mika..its not like he’s doing any scoring at even strength and they have others that can take his powerplay time
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Mika has full NTC- he is NOT going anywhere. That deal is on Drury who gave him both term, salary and full NTC. What a moron
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Since 2016/17
Playoffs
Mika 9 G 12 A1 4 A2 at ES 17 G 31 A1 7 A2 total in 58 GP
Kreider 14 G 5 A1 3 A2 at ES 28 G 7 A1 8 A2 total in 58 GP
For 23/24
Mika 3 G 13 A1 0 A2 in 16 GP (6th goals, 2 pts on NYR)
Barkov 7 G 9 A1 5 A2 in 22 GP (tied 3rd goals, 2 pts on FLA)
Not saying I don’t have my issues with Mika but could do worse. Getting a RW that works and a 3rd line that can play matchups would certainly help.
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He folds every time he plays a top center
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take away that responsibility. Best way to do that is to get a true 3C.
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Mika isn’t Messier but who is? They lost because they couldn’t get the puck out of their end. He wasn’t good at it but none of them were. You can’t generate offense when you don’t have the puck.
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In a team that desperately needed bottom 6 scoring, I’m just glad they were able to get rid of Goody who provided the only bottom six scoring along w physical play in the POs to save $2.5M
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What offense did Mika generate all year …how many even strength goals did he have ?
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chytil folds when he plays anybody. top player or not.
he needs to go asap
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You can trade him too Alex if improves the team …. but he didnt play a game for 6 months after getting concussed ….what is Zibananajads excuse
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as said before, fine to buyout or trade Chytil to clear cap given his style of play is not a fit given presence of similar feather weights Mika and Panarin.
but let’s be honest that doing so the return in a trade and/or cap space gained in a trade or buyout is t gonna be close to being enough to solve the issues of Mika independent, Mika:kreider as a pair or Panarin or Trouba or Miller
Necessary first step? sure, but several more have to follow and likely won’t be possible due to NMCs or Drury not being ready to walk from Trouba yet
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we need to do what we can. we can eliminate the chytil problem even if via buyout at 1/3 rate. no moves prevent moving on from some other guys at the present time. we need the 4 1/2 million and needed it the previous 2 years as well.
and 93 with 20 on 2nd line is not the problem some think. and btw. pk and pp count too. some think only 5 on 5 matter. 10, 16, 13 is the topline and is paid accordingly as top line
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Its a problem when your 2nd line center making 8.5 scores 8 even strength goals ..make him the official checking center and take away his PP time and he will ask out
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do that and we won’t make the playoffs bobby. better get some really top notch scouts for next years draft.
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26 goals in total bobby. 46 assists.
i don’t differentiate the type of goals like you do. keeping in mind he is solid on pk and barkov didn’t light him up in the series either. hockey is played 200 feet. chytil does not play 200 feet. not even close. he needs to go asap.
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please verify the 8 even strength goals bobby. seems he had a few more
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quoted in recent Vince article https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2024/06/13/can-the-rangers-win-a-cup-with-mika-zibanejad-as-their-top-center/74079227007/
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and the answer to the above is “no” and Barkov dominated him…Shesty was the one who kept Barkov in check
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Mika Mouse: 81 GP 26 G 30 A1 16 A2 72 pts 8 G 15 A1 2 A2 25 pts at ES
Most of Trocheck’s goals were on PP as well. As BDL would say, they do all count. 65% of Reinhart’s goals are on PP, I don’t think he apologizes.
59% of NYR goals came from five players, 17.4% from one guy (bread). 59.7% of FLA goals came from five players. 58.2% of EDM from top five, DAL 48%. You could argue DAL was one of the most balanced teams with 8 players > 20 goals
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Trocheck has cajones
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Barkov: 2 2 5 4 2 3 18 1 goal
Mika: 2 2 3 6 0 3 16 0 goal
If you are going to argue that Shesterkin was why Barkov had 1 goal on 18 shots, don’t you also need to argue that Bob was the reason Mika had 0 goals on 16 shots?
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i don’t pay for vince articles
googled mika
26 g
12 from pp
2 from sh
implies 12 at even strength. some could be 3 on 3 or 4 on 4.
maybe your problem is you listen to vince too much. he has no love for 93 or 20. based on seeing his tweets
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Alex – I posted at 4:15
Mika Mouse: 81 GP 26 G 30 A1 16 A2 72 pts 8 G 15 A1 2 A2 25 pts at ES
you can get these from nhl.com stats under scoring per 60 (5v5)
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beezle
i don’t understand the various categories .
i see 26 g
12 from pp
2 sh
means 12 at es
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Not sure what you are citing Beezle…..Florida series stats? Bobrovsky could have put a recliner up most of the series. Barkov was noticeable…Mika was not ..he doesn’t go to the paint and he does not go to slot and he doesn’t drive to the net with the puck…thats why he had 8 even strength goals once you confirm it
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could use the chytil salary for a legit 2nd line rw. he has to go asap.
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their priority should another center/DMAN .. get stronger down the middle…why waste more assets because 2 players are not a good fit together. Just separate them …they can still have the powerplay together
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neither is a 3rd or 4th liner bobby. and they should not break up the top line – bread and co.
we have 5 top 6 forwards. need a 6th. meanwhile step 1 has to be chytil gone.
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lets go oilers
come on McDavid
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Alex,
Were any of those empty netters? That would potentially explain it 🤷♂️
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that’s ridiculous… if they are team players and want to win one of them can play on the 3rd.
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LETS GO CATS!!!
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The Cup is already on a flight to Florida for Game 7.
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Can’t root for FLA. Can’t manage a Let’s Go Oilers either.
It IS hockey in June though. Drop the puck…
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Go Oilers! I need to see the cup presentation!
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I guess a game seven is the best option.
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I must be missing a heck of a game, 12 panther hits in 5 minutes of play?
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Olga, it is for me!
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The only way the Panthers got 12 hits is if they’re passing a joint along the bench.
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Can’t believe what I’m seeing. The unbeatable Panthers look absolutely cooked. They just look cooked. We could be witnessing the choke job of a generation.
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Panthers were lucky to get out of that period only down by 1
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Alex: ES = even strength = 5 on 5. Not 4v4 or 3v3
Bobby: Yes, I put up the Mika and Barkov stats from the ECF.
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So.. we need to get EV his game 7 so he can throw eggs at Bettman. As to who wins.. I’m ok with the Canadian team losing as I’m so tired of the very arrogant Canadian hockey press. Unfortunately that would mean FLA wins, though I suppose until a few weeks ago I couldn’t give a rats if they won.
Hopefully EV gets his money’s worth and game 7 goes to 5 OTs 🤣
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doh.. way to go Edmonton lol
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Ha the fix is in!
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I would love to see them actually explain their offside decision with video online.
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NHL is such a dumpster fire… they list the “rankings” of the draft prospects broken down by “North American” and “International” skaters. The #2 under NA is Artyom Levshunov who is Belarussian, played for a Belarus national team, was drafted into the USHL in 2022 and then went to Michigan State last fall.
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That sounds North American to me.
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If the Panthers somehow lose this series, they will be responsible, in consecutive seasons, for expansion Vegas winning their first cup 20 years too early and Canada’s first Stanley Cup in 31 years. Oy vey.
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Just did a mock draft.. could have taken a light OHL center or… a giant Finn defender 6’6 220 who can both score and play defense. Jesse Pulkkinen
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Bob’s Burgers
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Over ager who went undrafted in 2023. Looks like a 2nd Rd pick projection. I assume you weren’t drafting as the rangers then 🙂
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Looks like the cup gets presented in FL.Just a question of to whom.
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wwpd – yes, I was. Could have picked a 180lb center or big as* defender. I did check and seems at least a few think he is late first round so why not?
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EV on the non-goal:
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Panthers not looking too good. Even after the Sasha goal, to little too late?
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I wonder with that black outfit if Emily Kaplan is going to audition for Beetlejuice.
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Is it a game now?
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They’ve been filming the next Beetlejuice in East Corinth, Vermont – same as the original
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Oilers PK not too bad
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If the Rangers had any cajones they could have easily been in the Finals.
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Minx I think PuddyKats have run out of MeowMix
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Game 7 in Sunrise, Cats have been de-clawed. I’m laughing in the face of superior intellect. Missing out on Knoblauch confirms how clueless this organization is.
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Oilcans are pretty good at this ENG thing
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To quote the legendary Flounder…..”isn’t this great”
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Stuart Skinner lol! Apparently elite goaltending doesn’t mean squat.
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did Tkatchuk play tonight ?
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Minx that is exactly why you don’t pay Igor a ton of dough. Went through that mistake with Hank. Nothing against either guy but you can’t blow that much cap on goal.
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Holy shizitskies
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sure knoblauch would have done fine here, but only GM can solve what ails us
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Do not pay Twerkin $11 million.
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I don’t know, may have to get a two four for Monday, eh?
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Beezle, I hate to say it but I have no doubt the Rangers are going to do exactly that.
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EV you are probably right. We aren’t the sharpest organization in the drawer, are we?
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Drury to Minx: OK, I’ll pay him 12.5!
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And we’ll give him a NMC for the entirety of the contract.
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Dolan isn’t interested in a Cup, he wants a bunch of mid round playoff games for a long period of time. That’s why Igor will get his big contract. Convince me otherwise.
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…Jesse Pulkkinen…
WHAT?? Oh, never miiind; I thought I read Hugh Jessiman.
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Hank’s contract was about 17% of the cap. They can’t do that again. Once they get north of $10 million that contract is dangerous as it does if it is longer than 6 years.
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That shrimp?
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Was the woman who flashed the crowd in attendance tonight? Forcing game 7 should have rated a repeat performance.
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I’m glad the rangers lost when they did. Blowing a 3-0 lead is a nightmare. In the SCF, it’s un fathomable. Awful
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Emily’s voice doesn’t work over the roar in a 20,000 seat hockey arena. Plus she dresses each evening like she’s going to a gala MOMA fundraiser.
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ORF – If Gorton showed his boobies after his scarlet letter, we could call him Flash Gorton.
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Davidson” ‘First thing I’ll do is take a close look at our scouting and make some changes…’ Uh…..
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With Edmonton pushing Florida to the brink, I have concerns…. Here’s why: Do we think Drury and Co. will now think to themselves “Well, the Oilers aren’t this big/bad/tough team and look at how well they’ve played the Panthers! We can do it too!” meaning, pizza boy would make a few cheap tweaks here and there while running back essentially the same roster….. Yeah, I’m concerned. Our softies are way too soft to pull off what the oil has pulled off.
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Knoblauch has taken a prancing pony pond hockey team, and taught them the importance of a forecheck, and how to play defense. But let’s hire another retread says “I won’t let it ruin my Christmas!”
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Panthers different team without the lead; trap doesn’t work as well.
the refs actually called the off puck interference against Dry-saddle by 82
However didn’t call Rheinhardt’s interference later. If you are allowed to grab and hit players without the puck, yes, you will win most of those games.
If Fox and Tuba were 100%…and PP could have cashed in on a couple of early chances
it makes you wonder
Did Kaschmuck play last night?
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There is no forecheck without D being able to possess and move the puck. Wingers forced to back check to get possession won’t be able to forecheck.
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Florida looked slow last night …style of play maybe catching up to them …still think they win Monday
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I see most of the Oilers being willing to take a hit to get the puck out their end instead of just trying to reach with their stick and slide the puck up the boards like the Rangers did. It’s not just size. It’s also compete level and commitment. They need more of that from anyone they bring in as well as the guys they keep.
Also Bobby Orr is the only one I can remember being able to carry the puck with speed the way McDavid can. It has been fun to watch him. He can clear the zone himself a few times a game. That makes an enormous difference even if he doesn’t put up points-which he almost always does. If the Rangers had 3 or 4 more clean breakouts per game the Panther series would have had a different result.
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please separate 20 and 93.
maybe just maybe 93 pouts and agrees to waive his NMC…I have had it with his soft act. Good Riddance Mika Mouse.
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“That was not the loudest Rogers Place got, and there were plenty of candidates for that distinction. The decibel meter shown on video screens reached 113.8 when the Oilers stepped on to the ice to the tune of Metallica’s “Enter Sandman.”
Clearly they do not allow cell phones into Mr. Rogers place. Wonder if Mariano led them out of the lockerroom?
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Contrary to popular opinion, D is our primary problemo. Why did Jonesy not play when it became sorrowfully obvious we couldn’t move the puck up ice?
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There is a NEW POST scheduled to go off at 12 noon. Be there, aloha!
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Coos there are a lot of questions on both sides when it comes to player selection, toi, etc. Don’t worry, Lavi will be gone this time next year if there is not a shiny cup in the house.
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Miller’s on-ice expected goals of minus (-) 8.58 ranks DEAD LAST of all DMen who were in Playoffs. Time for him to start determining some on-ice outcomes rather than wandering and reacting. (Staple)
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I wonder if we can recruit EV for one more post-game out of south Florida….
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Broken record. Trade Miller at the draft.
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Game 7. Ev has all summer to rest and toast his buns at the nude beach. Wrap it up for us, baby!
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As I watch closely #79, I feel that if he ever gets physical and aggressive in his end, the net results will be even worse.
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There obviously are a lot of if’s going around this morning. The simple truth is they were not good enough, or smart enough when it counted most. From Laviolette on down.
Even If the Oilers lose Monday, Knoblauch has done a remarkable job turning them around.
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I’ve always said the team that that gets the the other team to play their game will win. That’s what the Oilers are doing with their pond hockey speed game & unexpected goaltending. Puddy Kats have to reestablish their hard hitting defensive game & stop standing around watching the Oilers showoff. Me thinks the Rangers might have emptied the Puddy Kats gas tank. Hate the smug Oilers & their fans. This Stanley Cup Final has brought millions & millions of dollars to that very cold city. In conclusion, if the Puddy Kats don’t raise the level of play and that means their goaltending too. the smug Oilers will destroy them. c’est la vie.
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Should the Oilers be forced to change their name and colors to ‘The Green Energy?’
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St Pete eli Wouldn’t it be ironical if the the Rangers did end up playing the Oilers & we lost. We got nothing for giving up Knoblauch. One of the nicer things Dolan & Drury have done.
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Coos, one day they’ll be the Edmonton Solars 🤣
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I’m willing to trade either Lindgren or Miller. Miller is the better player, and actually the numbers say the more physical player. What the numbers don’t say is toughness. Miller lacks the toughness that Lindgren has. Lindgren is tough. He takes a beating, but he doesn’t really give one anymore.
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Baloney. EVERY scrum netfront, he’s involved. EVERY one!
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and he takes a beating. Every time.
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*NEW POST*
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