The NYR Future

And thus the mourning period comes to a close; thoughts move on to what may yet become while still remembering those good moments from the past.

Please use this thread to discuss roster moves, draft picks, coaching changes, etc.

Some UFA info on next pages:

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Author: Beezle

I am the new and improved Beezle

241 thoughts on “The NYR Future”

  2. if i were kreider and i had 15 team no trade clause this would be my list
    with 5 wildcards – probably western teams due to travel

    columbus
    devs
    isles
    philly
    buff
    ottawa
    winnipeg
    calgary
    san jose
    seattle

    i’ll take a shot at the 5 wildcards
    montreal – language
    vancouver – travel
    utah – travel but has lots of cap space
    washington – getting much older
    minnesota – dead money vs cap

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  3. a friend said pitt due to age but i considered the crosby factor

    also why i left out edm due to mcdavid factor

    you can bet that bost won’t be on his list to not be traded to

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  4. The cap hit to buyout Chytil is:

    0.5, 0.3, 1.4, 0.7, 0.7, 0.7 for a total over 4.5M over 6 years.

    Any trade would have to involve less than 1.5M retained to be considered. As the cap is now expected to move upwards more regularly, the buyout seems to give them the most flexibility.

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  5. A buyout of Chytil is in everyones best interest. His style of play does not fit with what they need. He is an injury risk on a team with not a lot of cap room. He appears to want to try to continue playing. Let him hook up with a team that will be willing to feature him and can absorb the hit if t he worst comes to pass.

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  8. Beezle’d…

    Lot less moves than folks think; Pres Cup winner, ECF finals.

    Dreary could be thinking:

    Kakko potential break out playing on top line; Chytil as plan B

    Miller plays with Schneids; keep away from Tuba

    Jones for Gus; play with Tuba

    re-sign Lindy to play with Fox

    Othman up to play with Chytil 3C and Culleye on 3rd line; Goody as 3C Plan B

    Edstrom up for 4C w Goody and Rempe, Vet FA low $$ signing to mentor big fellas.

    prospect Dylan Roobroeck (22 yo; plays C 6’7″ 205) has shown skill in minors is a wild card.

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  9. Whenburger was a 4.9M cap hit from 2017/18 thru 22/23. He was bought out by CBJ in 2020, then signed for one year with FLA for 2.25M. Next he signed the expiring three year contract with SEA for 4.5M per. I don’t think the UFA market will pay him more than 4, if anything 3.5M seems more likely.

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  11. The center position is the challenge, but Roobroeck as a bottom six C option, most likely gets seasoning in Hartford for a season, but necessity may force Dreary’s hand; depends how they view Edstrom and/or Rempe as pivot options. Roobroeck had a break out year; very good on dot, can skate, has good hands and vision.

    4th line of Edstrom-Roobroeck-Rempe would be too much fun to watch.

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  12. Karl – Bread might have had the best hit of the playoffs v (Screw) Oshie in Round 1. Nobody gets a pass IMHO. You have to protect yourself and can’t shy away from contact. If need be use your stick and/or elbow a la Mess to the grill of attaching player.

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  14. SN – if Drury pretty much stands pat then the best he’ll be looking at is another trip to the ECF but I suspect not even that far. Say what you will but the Filth were signficantly better than anyone expected last season. Carolina is not afraid to retool to get to the ECF. The asteroid may hit the earth and Toronto actually goes places. NJ and NYI should be more competitive as well. RedWings learn not to choke. I also think it is very fair to say the NYR got a fair amount of regular season luck with the comeback wins. Knock five wins off and they are the bubble team, not the NYI.

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  16. Beez – preaching to choir re Jones and lack of physicality but Trouba proved that first you need to actually be in position to hit someone for that part of the game to work. Need to get K’Andre on HGH Cycle to change body composition and mental makeup.

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  17. Lucky for NYR that the Metro is really not that strong this season which inflated their position in the standings. Fla playing in tougher atlantic division forced mngt to build a roster to play against TB and Boston.

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  18. While true that Kreider needs to give a list, I really think the odds of him being moved are very low. The last round sucked (for everyone pretty much) but he did have 8 goals in the playoffs, same as Tro and Laffy. 39 regular season goals is difficult to replace as well, and probably not happening at a 6.5M cap hit unless from within. Add in his ability on PK, just don’t see it happening.

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  21. Not that I’m advocating for getting him but I suspect the market for Trevor Zegras has dropped quite a bit. Beyond the groin and ankle injuries, word is he’s been quite immature and “team” and “tough” may not be words he fully understands yet. 60+ points his first two full regular seasons, last year a bit of a disaster and only 31 games.

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  22. Mika and Kreids not going anywhere for contractual reasons; Kreider is a relative bargain and Mika has a a full NTC and plays a position of organizational weakness.

    What does need to change is what Mika does in offseason. The vegan DJ approach to his offseason activity is obviously not working. One reason Kreider has increased production in the later part of career is his commitment to offseason workouts. Laffy credited his improved play on increasing his working out in offseason to better prepare his body for the grind and improve his skating.

    These guys are being paid a king’s ransom; it’s a full time gig, not just Sept – June.

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  23. Zegra (5.75M) and Terry (7M – 26yo) for Chytil (4.4), Miller (3.87) and Kakko (RFA)

    Roobroeck is 19 yo for def more seasoning – but they did sign him to 3 yr deal this season so Dreary has plans for him.

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  24. Everyone wants Chytil out but no one has 3c options ….Wennberg decent checking 3c but charmin soft and never shoots…to expensive and not the answer..this team needs a culture change within the top 6 and some guys that play to their size

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  26. I updated the post to include UFA stuff from capfriendly. Think I got the list right, at least it does show NYR free agents. Included the direct links as well. Page 2 is the forwards, Page 3 is defenders.

    *You may need to view images in another tab or pinch/zoom on phone, or just use the included links

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  27. Well, take those with some caution. I’ve updated the images and links, think this time it has filtered out players who have already signed an extension. Capfriendly can be unfriendly!

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  28. Re Kreider 15 team list; another factor is he just got married so just not his decision but most likely take any Canadien team off the list and any out west.

    NOh Canada – Edm, Van, Tor, Mon, Winn, Cal, Ott

    Don’t Go West Young Man – Ana, LA, Col, Ariz, Sea, Dal, Vegas

    Ain’t no Southern Man – Fla, TB

    that’s 16; not including Utah which is next season(?), Maybe Tor is not on the list

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  34. tonight on espn at 7:30 about the riots in vanc after they lost to bost. also seems to be a bit about the grizzlies moving

    at 9 on espn about 94 rangers – i think quite a bit about stephen mcdonald in that one as well

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  35. For me it comes down to finding some 3rd line grit and a scorer for RW with Kreids/Mika. If that means losing KK and Big Fil then so be it. Othmann should be here next season but where does he fit? Does Dru go and get Vatrano in the hopes of reigniting the chemistry? I expect some moves but I’d be surprised if the top 5 forwards and defensemen are different in opening night

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  38. Adam Fox was reluctant to make any “excuses” but eventually when pressed admitted that the knee-on-knee collision with Nick Jensen in the first round “reaggravated” the knee injury that kept him out earlier in the year. Doesn’t anticipate needing any offseason procedures. #NYR

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  41. If they stick with he Huggy twins not sure what is going to change come playoff time …they can add grit in the bottom 6 but that grit will need more minutes. At a minimum they need to be on different lines and play with someone else with balls

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  42. I simply don’t see how they overcome the lack of a 1C that cannot adjust to the playoffs and they need to produce at 5v5. Watching him lose 50/50 puck battles all over the ice, lazy efforts on line changes while the puck is in the neutral zone and on its way towards the Rangers blueline.. just not 1C material. There is no one in the prospect pool that has that big body, hard on pick mindset it seems to me. The lack of forecheck on that first line is telling, and it’s not just with Lavi being the bench. Brassard, not close in skill to Mika, figured out ways to bring it come playoffs. The mantra all over the rangers’ fandom and blogosphere is that mika just needs an elite RW for he and Kreider to succeed. I don’t see it.. also the belief that Grump Buchnevich with have solved that line’s ills is simply wrong. Don’t know the solution but have I felt even though the Rangers simply had no choice to resign Mika due to lack of org center depth, that the signing meant they’d never win a Cup with him as the 1C.

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  43. Kreider produces on any line. Mika is the issue; he is not a traditional center; does not make his wings better, not a feeder. more of a freelancer who relishes open ice but cannot create it for himself. To Kreids credit, he has been able to be productive playing with Mika which NOBODY else has been able to save for Vatrano’s brief stint.

    Mika had a del zasterours reg season, esp at even strength, yet Kreider (21) was third on team on ES goals following Bread (38) and Laffy (26), who played on same line with the teams’ best center. Mika had 27 ES assists, Tro 39.

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  44. How tall is the Remp today? What interests me is that the kid can skate and with surprising alacrity. Unlike Miller, he’ll learn by leaps and bounds. Hope they don’t drain the natural swagger and aggression from him.

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  47. Fwiw – Butch has one more year at 5.7 on his deal, Blues seem to be in no mans land with current roster and bringing him back would make a ton of sense imho. He would solidify that line and by extension, the top 6.

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  48. Trouba had the chance on more than one occasion to get physical with Bennet but decided to be the hittee, not the hitter.

    Kreider had a nasty hit on Barkov which kept the Finn shaking his head on all 4s. He is not the Kreider of old; you are not going to get the steamrolling hits but also not the continual offsides and offensive zone penalties.

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  53. Pisses me off that some of the boyz (Troubs, Rempe, Goodrow, Cuylle) were told to tone it down and beware of penalties. They KNOW what’s what. Leave them the eff alone and let them play their games.

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  56. Think the PK issue was K’Andre being tooled on by Barkov and Rheinhart as they played hot potato and Miller was left spinning like a top and recover in time to fish the puck out of the net.

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  57. bobby

    i want no part of chytil. would even include a pick to trade his butt.

    mile-high

    mika is 2nd line. look at aggregate pay and deployment

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  58. i really hope in warm ups that lavy starts the warm up with breads line 1st. maybe the media and many fans would then realize which line is the top line. and adjust criticisms accordingly

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  59. Chytil wont matter if the Huggy twins are still together…Maybe they can be 3rd line checking line and powerplay minutes will keep them happy or make them ask out

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  60. it matters if chytil is gone. cost us a lot in unused cap space this past year. could have kept mikkola. chytil is a wimp and that was before the concussions. things turned around in a bad way when chytil reentered the lineup in the carolina series. many of us saw that right away. obviously one person did not.

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  62. have to factor in the no state tax vs fla. so our bid has to be 10% or more above the fla bid – more since cost of living in ny is also higher aside from the tax issue

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  66. Alex – in fact, had they cut bait two seasons ago they would have had Vatrano on wing with a little left over. Last summer, they could have kept Mikola. The failure is at the Drury level in not accepting that Chytil was not the style of player the roster needed for the foreseeable future. Instead my belief is he couldn’t part with a mid first rounder “because”. That’s not on Chytil at all.

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  67. beezle

    true its on drury to correct the chytil mistake. buyout or trade even with pick attached. i think most of us see that, unfortunately keeping chytil last 2 years had disaster written all over it. no reason to make it 3 mistakes on the same guy and his cap hit

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  69. Drury was probably hoping Chytil developed into 2C with Trocheck a very well paid 3C, but probably $10M between the two being about average. Chytil’s injury and Trocheck meshing with Bread changed that.

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  70. Laviollete pushed a lot of the right buttons this year, but refusing to make any adjustments to PP1 and its continued struggle cost them any chance at stealing the series.

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  72. re bobby post

    2 ways to improve

    score more goals

    allow less goals

    mikkola would certainly helped in 1 of them. if, of course, chytil was gone last summer

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  74. alex. He is the hightest paid center on the team. He rolls out for 6v5, O and D zone faceoffs, and is on PP1, at times taking FO. He AVGS just just under 1:30 in TOI to who I assume you think is the 1C. Mika has been here as a top center option and been pretty much the same ghost in the playoffs in the areas of the ice that matter most. Nut sure. Blame Chytil’s presence and Mikkola missing (who had a whopping 3 points in 31 games with the Rangers, 2 points in 7 PO games and 3 so far this season) as to why the Rangers are clearing out lockers.
    There is no adjustment to criticism I need to make. This roster is flawed, and whether it means with or without Chytil moving forward, no one or two additions will move the needle. This “core” has shown repeatedly what they are and in my opinion will not change outcomes as they get older. Their roles need to be diminished or just replaced altogether. And that won’t happen easily or over the summer, either.

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  75. mile high

    add the aggregate of the 3 salaries on both lines.

    breads line gets paid more. they get more 5 on 5 time especially in o zone.

    it is quite clear to most which is the 2nd line. and that is mika’s line. it’s not their fault that laffy and bread don’t seem capable of playing short handed. or that they’ve had no legit rw.

    i do agree with you on 1 thing. this is in reality not a cup team. i expect a fall off especially if they trade kreider this summer. i do not expect presidents trophy or 3rd round next year.

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  78. Kreider goes to the net on powerplays .he doesn’t take the puck and drive the net with any consistency..not many do on this team outside of Trochek/laffy/Cullye

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  80. A lot of good stuff today boneheads. Bottom line, no team has, or ever will win the cup with a DJ as the #1C. Or for that matter the #2C, unless everything around him is a recking ball on the ice.

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  84. If someone told Trouba to tone it down and not take penalties they didn’t say it loud enough. Two ECFs in a row where trouba was god awful!

    would love to move on from him, but if not third pair him

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  90. I’m not a big fan of Miller, but I would give him one more shot. Lav and Drury need to tell him in exit interview that he needs to come back MUCH stronger and Nastier. Let him know if he doesn’t come back ready and willing to use his 6’5″ frame, he will be playing elsewhere before the end of the season.

    Kakko’s value is in the trash. Since you can’t get much for him, you give him a mandate also. Learn how to drive the net, shoot and play in the paint or plan on playing elsewhere before end of season.

    The Rangers have a lot of size on this roster, the problem is that most of them don’t use that size to their advantage. The will to really compete in tough games is not there.

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  91. The other real issue is most teams know the book to defeat the Rangers. This team cannot handle an aggressive forecheck or aggressive PK. if they aren’t given time and space to make their fancy passes, they whimper away. Mika and Panarin are worst offenders. The lack of a decent PP unit almost cost them in Canes series and definitely cost them in Panthers series. The core needs to be changed, as that has been consistently bad in playoffs over last few years. Hate to say it, but I think Devils and Canes will be much better next year so don’t see the Rangers going as far as they did this year.

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  93. Brooksie is also saying there will be a big move… they have to change the core to get to next level and honestly I am sick of them getting sand kicked in their face….they have too many big bodies that play small

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  95. Bobby – I partially disagree about Trouba. I thought that Trouba was their best defenseman in the first half of the season and then his play fell off. The fractured ankle explains a lot. If his ankle will heal properly and not have long lasting effect on his play, I would keep him because if he could play like he did in first half of season, that is what they need more of. If he goes you will need to replace his physical element and there aren’t many options out there to do that. Rangers defense needs to get much tougher to play against as Miller Gus and Fox don’t bring much in the way of physical play. The forwards also need to be much tougher to play against in order to help the defense and to keep the play in the other teams zone for a change..

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  99. guy who constantly goes to front of net and hard to move from there is hardly playing small. so once again i completely disagree with bobbyo

    meanwhile he defends the biggest culprit – no pun intended

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  100. Bread – 11.6/NMC

    Fox – 9.5/no restrictions

    Mika – 8.5/NMC

    Trouba – 8.5/M-NTC

    Kreider – 6.5/M-NTC

    Who is going to be moved from core?

    29.6 cap hit/88 team cap for top 3 guys softer than Charmin; 1/3 of cap

    good luck

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  104. Drury, Lavy and the staff know hockey and know the team. They need to make an honest assessment of the players and the systems. No line or D pair was immune from being pinned down in their end and the 1-3-1 was like a screen door on a submarine. Drury can’t just go back to the clearance rack and tweak the roster and run it back. Those exit interviews should have included discussions of what each guy can do to make them better next year. Guys who were satisfied with the result may be candidates for moving elsewhere. Next season starts now.

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  105. “Ryan Lindgren, Fox’s defensive partner, cracked his rib in Game 6 of the second round against the Hurricanes.”

    And yet VC pussied out and wouldn’t play with a separated shoulder! 😉

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  106. Miss Mollie Giggles wrote: “The Rangers were surely happy with his work in the AHL, but the organization was never going to hand the keys over to a first-year coach when it was in win-now mode.”

    Just curious – has Edmonton been in lose-now mode then? Because I thought the Oilers have been in win now-now mode for the past four years.

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  109. As to Laviolette – was he really any better than Gallant? Gallant got just as far his first season with a lesser team. And I wasn’t exactly a fan of that hire. Not suggesting that Lavi is a disaster, but for a guy that was said to be able to adjust on the fly, he sure didn’t do a lot of it beyond moving a deck chair now and then. You expect a team, especially a playoff bound team, to improve their execution as the season progresses but did we really see that with the Rangers this year? From my seat I saw the same problems and errors at the end of April that I saw in Oct-Dec.

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  111. It’s the Jimmy and Joes, not Xs and Os. The GM runs the team and is heavily involved with final say on all personnel decisions including deployment. This is on Dreary first and foremost.

    His anchor contracts handed out to regular season all stars will ‘last a lifetime’. The deadline moves have been increasingly poor. How many coaches does he get to hire?

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  112. Beezle, I agree and disagree with you. I agree the end result is the same, and the problems we saw in the past cropped up against FLA. They won 10 games and fizzled about the same way they did against TB.

    Before that (and maybe the end of the CAR series), I think for the most part they were a bit more structured in their approach and didn’t rely on Igor to continually bail them out. They were pretty mentally tough shown through the come from behind wins.

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  113. Didn’t Gallant in year one go the ECF?

    For all the Kreider bashing, name the left wing you are going to bring in that has averaged 40 goals the last 3 years it will come close to that in the future. If you think he is the problem at $6.5M cap hit, that is a you thing. Stop projecting what you think he should be and appreciate what he is and has done.

    Most recently a 3rd period hat trick to put them in the ECF or is that memory too far away?

    Kreider Derangement Syndrome. Every one saying Meeka shat the bed this season, but you focus on #20. At current cap hit, there would be 31 teams looking to trade for 2 more seasons of his production.

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  114. Great stats and contract but hes 34 and the question is whether Kreider is gonna help you win a cup or not and if you can get younger/nastier version. The same goes for Ziba…the same goes for Chytil and Jones when it comes to nastier

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  119. 65-29-4 was their overall record this season; tired of that losing? Look at some other team’s records. If you are only focused on winning a Cup as the be-all, end-all; you will end up a miserable person.

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  122. Kreider will never be traded unless the Rangers miss the playoffs and he is moved to a contender at the deadline. Mika won’t be traded because he has a NMC. I hope that all the UFA’s are gone and that Jones moves into the lineup for Gus…..who drove me batty after the first 1/3 of the season.

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  126. Boffo regular season from the boyos, but they ruined my June! They let down NY, each and every one of them and that includes the coaches who went comatose. It just is what it is.

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  127. My low expectations were rewarded with conformation that I was correct in my assumption concerning their inability to bring home the bacon. As usual they inevitably let us down again. I hate being right, but as I’ve heard it said history doesn’t just repeat itself, it rhythms. They were true to form. “Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin into the future.”

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  130. I may the oldest one here. I was at the game when Jacques Plante wore a mask for the first time. I think it was an Andy Bathgate slapshot that extended his mouth an inch or two. That was in the old MSG on 49th/50th Streets. I’m hoping to outlive Sam and see another cup.

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  139. For all those in pain after another ECF loss, one can find consolation in the immortal words of our fearless leader.

    After blowing a 4 goal lead vs Caps, Capt Chris Drury told the media, ““I’m certainly not going to let it ruin my Christmas and I don’t think anyone here is going to let it ruin their break, either.”

    Capt Clutch had a rough go as a player here before riding off into LITR sunset in his clutch mobile.

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  148. there is no way to fix the problem. Rangers core are soft and because of cap implication will be hard to trade and what are the rangers getting back? This team dynamics is all wrong to win a cup. Built for the regular season where most nights you can play your pond hockey which the rangers are good at playing but not good for the playoffs. I don’t see Drury doing what smith in 94 did to get the rangers over the hump because of the cap.

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  149. tommyG,

    You’re exactly right. This team is going nowhere with Perimeterejad as part of our top 2 C, Small/regular season Panarin, Trouba/Miller’s constant gaffes, and Lindgren’s size (I’ll never question his heart).
    Roster construction and a salary cap are both the downfall of this franchise and I just don’t see how they can unload contracts that need to be unloaded, short of Chytil’s.

    Thanks, Captain pizza… putz.

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  150. Solid points… his options are limited to eating some contract to move Trouba to add some beef on defense, moving Kreider to bring in a younger winger or center with snarl, trading Lindy or Miller as options to address above. Other than that its splitting up the Huggy twins and bringing in lower priced bottom 6 wingers with size

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  151. Seeing mention of Brady Tkachuk, so what might it take to get the Senators to bite? You get him this summer you have him for 4 years at $8.2M per. 2 years younger than his brother. Matthew has 2 100-point seasons, Brady has 3 30+ goal seasons in last 3 years and topped out at 83 points but playing for a bad team. The salary going and coming is not equal so they’d have to find maybe 2M elsewhere.

    Rangers give:

    • 2024 1st
    • 2025 2nd
    • Chytil
    • Schneider
    • Othman

    Rangers receive:

    • Brady Tkachuk

    I get the idea of getting a winger with some snarl. Unfortunately he’s a left wing so probably doesn’t solve the 1RW problem. Can a younger guy like that come in though with the core leadership group and realistically expect to change how the older vets play?

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  155. Also the Rangers are not getting Brady Tkachuk unless Busto and at least 2 1st are included. Krakko, Busto, Schneider, 2 1st rd picks. So he ain’t coming cause Drury can’t be that dumb.

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  157. better hope Kreids doesn’t have Ott on his no-move list (doubt it) is the way it can make sense, along w other assets obv, but pipe dream unless Mika wants to go back to Ott

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  162. Brady for some reason signed a new contract in Ottowa, he’s going nowhere anytime soon.

    But their GM (do they have one?!) might not hang up instantly if the offer was Laf, Schneider, Perrault and couple 1sts. Instead he’d say that’s reasonable, but no thank you

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  163. want to swap Kakko for Jeannot, guess could be a gamble worth taking. But he’s shown nothing to suggest he’s anything more than a 3rd liner and if Tampa is trading him, it’s a red flag given all they gave up to begin with

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  166. ha i don’t want to trade any of them personally. Some logic to moving kreider however even tho he’s the least deserving of the big 4 to be traded

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  169. They would be selling low on Kakko. It’s hard to see him having a worse season one than this past one. He’ll be inexpensive because of that but the return on a trade will be low. It looks like he is going to be a middle six winger. Will they get an equivalent player in return?

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  171. Their issues are not regular season success but playoff style roster.

    there are 3 young centers in system that need to be in the mix as they can’t afford any free agents.

    Edstrom, Rempe, Roebreck; the first 2 were already in the mix, the last should be in Hartford this season.

    be great to get Pavelski for a season even at his advanced age, he is productive and a gamer.

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  178. lmfao It’s circus time for cooscoos Is’nt anybody interested in the Stanley Cup Finals. Should be great hockey. Want the Puddy cats to wipe the floor with the two smug super stars. The irony is the ex Wolfpack coach is now the Oilers coach. The Rangers gave him up for nothing, even though Lav was the better choice. See this going 6 games Panthers, maybe 5. You can’t play pond hockey with a great offensive and even better defensive team. Besides it’s the USA vs. Canada.

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  180. The season before the trade, Jeannot had scoring chances and was stout in front of the net; his inability to score was attributed to bad luck. But in his first games with the Lightning, he struggled mightily, then got injured right as he started to become comfortable with his new team.

    Maybe cool the jets on Jeannot. Full story here If TBL give up on this guy (and his limited cap hit) after all they gave up to get him, that should set off the warning alarms. Danger Will Robinson, danger! And not to mention that TBL always seem to get the better of NYR on trades.

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  182. St Pete eli & Old Ranger Fan. You guys are no where near the oldest. Watched my first Ranger Hockey game in 1951 on WPIX channel 11 TV. when I was 11 years old. Wally Hergesheimer was my favorite player, also Camille Henry. Lived at the old Garden on 49th st. with my GO card. They were off TV & radio for a long time in those years as Hockey was an adopted sport with a far smaller fan base. Thought this would be the year for me. The hard core of this team was totally out of gas after the Carolina series and Shesturken gave them a false sense of security. St. Pete eli you have 8 more years than me for another cup. USA vs Canada. Want the Puddy Cats to wipe the floor with those 2 super stars. It’s playoff hockey at it’s best a great offensive/defense team vs a Pond Hockey team. (See may earlier post)

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  184. Tanner Jeannot has sucked in Tampa. What makes anyone think he would not suck in NY? I would not give up anything of value for him. I read that Carolina is shopping Guentzel’s rights too. I bet he goes back to Pittsburgh. Had the Rangers acquired him, he would be gone and so would the ransom they paid to get him.

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  194. good question Pete! Will Canada get more calls or will the boys in stripes do thier usual swallowing of their whistles as the series progresses. Its not like Florida are a bunch of Lady Byng candidates….expect Bennett to be Public Enemy number one up north by mid week

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  197. Dreary wants to go ‘heavier and more physical.’ Sez some of that will come from within the extended family. Seeks,too, a definitive productive wing for Zib, THE.

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  199. I think it should be what a productive 3rd line RW deserves nothing more. He has already said skating with the embracers didn’t work.

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  200. I’d go 4×2.75-3.25M which buys two his UFA years. Otherwise don’t think he’s done much to earn above his $2.4M QO.

    That’s less than the contract Gabe Vilardi is playing on, which he signed after his best season and probably expected to have more upside than kakko at this point.

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  202. As fans we usually look at things player related, from the perspective of the team. Sometimes we need to look at it from the players perspective. If you are Kakko, do really sign for 4 more seasons of 3rd line RW?, giving up 2 UFA seasons? I wouldn’t. If I’m Kakko, I’m plotting my way out of here. I suspect Drury understands this. Which is why I think Kakko is gone.

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  203. two more seasons of Trouba. I think you ride it out. Trading him, and paying him 4 million for the next 2 seasons, to play against you, makes little sense. You are going to have to replace him. Unless you are convinced it an upgrade, and not lateral, again makes little sense.

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  204. If you can’t move Ziba, park him on the 3rd line and tell him he’s the checking center and place him with Cullye/Vesey and Goody. Give Laffy his powerplay time. If he doesn’t like it he can waive his no move.

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  205. now Kreider, I have no doubt that you could trade without retention. But do really want to? 52.36,39. 10,6,8. Can you really replace that? Plus most likely, it would be in conference. No thank you.

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  206. Trouba will most likley have the teams that could take his contract on his no trade –Utah/SJ etc… maybe Drury can eat only 2M if he sweetens deal but just don’t see it. Hes most likely a 3rd pair D …hopefully Jones mobility will help him

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  209. thats where Drury has to figure something out/move a piece. Going with Chytil would be an option but they would need some form of insurance if he got hurt

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  211. kakko doesn’t really have a great way out unless the rangers want to play ball. if he’s not willing to accept his QO or a team friendly deal with more term he’s getting his arb award and I don’t think that will be much more, which keeps him here another year or two at least?

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  213. Does drury have secret, heavier and more physical players within the system we don’t know about? Rempe and Edstrom are not reshaping this roster as funny as that would be.

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  214. Lone Ranger-I remember Camile Henry well. He was as good at tip ins as Kreider, but 80 lbs. lighter. Also Jack Evans, Bill Gadsby, Andy Hebenton, but Wally Hergesheimer is before my time. The GO card was one of the benefits of getting to high school. Ranger and Knick games for 50 cents. Those were some bad hockey teams. Did you play hall hockey between periods on the stairwells at the old Garden? We ocassionally missed the beginning of a period to finish our games.

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  215. wwpd, that is certainly a way the Rangers could go about it. Keep him here for another season or two, but eventually Kakko is leaving. If you wait two seasons, it’s by his choice. If you do it now, it’s by Drury‘s choice, and he gets to choose where, and for what.

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  216. Rempe changes the look of the team. Edstrom is Vanilla. He’s big, but adds very little else. I think Othmann’s style of play helps, and Berard energy helps. But in not sure that reshapes to roster.

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  217. I think that arb award will be low, and I’d gamble trading him on the 2 year award rather than just moving his RFA rights. but I think he’s got value on the right deal and if he turns it around as a ranger then we get all the upside.

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  218. I think the position that needs reshaping is LD. The left side is too small, and the one guy who has size, doesn’t play with edge. I think both Lindgren, and Miller are tradable commodities. I would trade both, but most certainly one of them. Use Jones to try and recoup some lost draft capital.

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  222. IMO, players that should not be on the opening day roster. Chytil, Jones, & Miller. Trying to find a suitable RW for the The/DJ doesn’t solve the problem of Dajenabiz at center. Move him to RW and find a better center. Then a 3rd C for Cuylle & Krakko.

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  229. are you guys under the impression that ROR is a physical player? In every category Zibanejad is a better player than ROR, and he’s younger.

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  233. most logical teams on Kreider’s 15 team no trade list. Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, Edmonton, Winnipeg, and Calgary. LA, SJ, Utah, Anaheim, Colorado, Vegas, and Seattle. And then one of, STL, Minn, Nash, Dallas, and Chi. So for arguments sake, Chicago.
    That leaves the eastern conference, STL, Minn, Nashville, and Dallas. Who ya got, and for what.

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  240. “We were talking about Laf at this time last year and refuting rumors that I was trying to trade him,” Drury said. “Kaapo Kakko is still a young player… We’re going to continue to try and find everything we can do to help him reach his potential.” 🤷‍♂️

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